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Old 12-03-2009, 08:21 PM   #1
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is there a site where I can find all info about technical shooting ways for shows, especially the old ones.
I know there's IMDB but a lot of them are info-less.

They say that 16mm it's not enough for 1080p, or at least not worth it BUT for what I see a lot of current shows broadcast in HD are still shot on 16mm, I'm saying this because to my eyes they look "filmic" (not digital) and I kinda doubt it's 35mm. For example The Middle (ABC) and Eastwick (ABC) look 16mm to me.
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16MM is enough for 1080p if the transfer is handled properly, evidenced by the Criterion release of Monsoon Wedding.
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too bad 16mm shows I want on BD are mainly from WB
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too bad 16mm shows I want on BD are mainly from WB
Don't know if you think well of it, but Scrubs was shot on 16mm too. Friends and Seinfeld were definitely on film too. :\

As for video, I recall seeing in the credits of Married with Children that it was shot on videotape. That's a bit disappointing to me. OP, do you really intend to list shows by their recorded media format?
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is there a site where I can find all info about technical shooting ways for shows, especially the old ones.
I know there's IMDB but a lot of them are info-less.

They say that 16mm it's not enough for 1080p, or at least not worth it BUT for what I see a lot of current shows broadcast in HD are still shot on 16mm, I'm saying this because to my eyes they look "filmic" (not digital) and I kinda doubt it's 35mm. For example The Middle (ABC) and Eastwick (ABC) look 16mm to me.
Actually most weekly drama or comedy TV shows, on broadcast anyways, are shot on 35mm. Chuck is the only one I can think of that is shot on 16mm (on the big 4 networks). It looks like the new series of Scrubs is on 35mm to me.

I thought ABC Studios shot most of its productions on 3-perf 35mm, however it seems they are using 2-perf 35mm to save a few bucks. Thats probably why many of their dramas (especially Grey's Anatomy IMO) have an inferior look.

http://chrisjrusso.pluggedin.kodak.c...p?item=2377339

Friends and Seinfeld were shot on 4-perf 35mm on Panavision lenses BTW.

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how do you even know the X-perf for film in those shows? Where do you get that info?

Anyway 2-perf 35mm could be the reason why they look kinda worse

Don't forget shows like Veronica Mars and The OC were shot on 16mm.


What's the difference in digital resolution between 2, 3 and 4-perf 35mm films?
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how do you even know the X-perf for film in those shows? Where do you get that info?

Anyway 2-perf 35mm could be the reason why they look kinda worse

Don't forget shows like Veronica Mars and The OC were shot on 16mm.


What's the difference in digital resolution between 2, 3 and 4-perf 35mm films?
Well on shows filmed in 2-perf, I was looking at this article: http://chrisjrusso.pluggedin.kodak.c...p?item=2377339

After reading more thoroughly thru it, it seems that 2-perf film for TV shows is pretty experimental.

2nd page of this: http://media.panavision.com/Referenc...fExplained.pdf shows the difference in negative size between the 35mm formats and super 16. The bigger the negative size, the better the quality. All other things being equal. However just be confusing, the first part of that article is comparing the sizes of a 2.4:1 AR extraction for use on 4-perf 35mm anamorphic prints for a movie theater.

3-perf is very common for shooting 16:9 TV shows, because its AR works out to be almost exactly 16:9. Its not used from theatrical movies however, because that would require theaters to alter their projection equipment. In general I became interested in film formats a few years ago because I wondered why certain old movies looked much better than others, and what was meant by terms such as VistaVision, Ultra Panavision etc.

This is site is pretty comprehensive on the old film formats: http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/lobby.htm

Both the OC and Veronica Mars are canceled. I was saying there are very few left on broadcast TV still shot on 16mm.

To further confuse matters I think there are, or we are about to see, many more TV shows shot digitally but in a way to make them appear filmed.

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