Say Goodnight To The Bad Guy: Worst Casting Choices For Villains - Blu-ray Forum

Offender_Mullet · 12-08-2009, 09:51 PM

Since the Spider-Man IV casting rumor was already in the official thread, I've deleted that part. Thanks Beta Man!

Here a few of my choices for worst casting blunders for villains. I'll update it as more come to mind:

Timothy Olyphant as Thomas Gabriel in Die Hard: Live Free Or Die Hard
He was about as menacing as a runway model on Xanax.

Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin in Spider-Man
Again, another actor who's too feminie for a bad guy role.

Billy Zane as Cal Hockley in Titanic
The hammiest villian in the the hammiest movie ever.

Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor in Superman Returns
Just admit it people, you were watching Spacey instead of Luthor.

Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze in Batman & Robin
Granted Ahhhhnuld's character was a classic unintentionally funny role, but this was just awful. "Iiiiiiiiiiice!"

Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut in X-Men III: The Last Stand
I love Vinnie Jones, except in this. While his line of "I'm the Juggernaut b*tch" is timeless, he just looked so awkward in costume.

John Travolta as Howard Saint in The Punisher
Ok, while he DOES have THE BEST a**hole move ever (throwing his wife off a bridge then she gets run over by a train), Travolta has never been quality at playing the bad guy.

John Travolta as Ryder in The Taking Of Pehlam 1 2 3
While he had the look, he was trying waaaay too hard, making it a parody more than anything. The trailers made me believe he finally pulled it off, but sadly, this was not the case.

FromTheInside · 12-08-2009, 09:56 PM

wtf spiderman 4??

phoenixram1977 · 12-08-2009, 10:01 PM

Not sure I agree with the villian choice, how bout the lizard, or getting venom right somehow. I wish they would have named each movie differently instead of 1, 2, 3. It would have been great if they had something like the web of spiderman (part 1), the amazing spiderman (part 2) and so forth....

Offender_Mullet · 12-08-2009, 10:07 PM

True, something different as we already had the flying bad guy in SP1.

Edit: Oops forgot about the official SP4 thread. Already asked a mod to change my title.

dvd_mazter · 12-08-2009, 10:34 PM

John Malkovich is a fine actor but if they are going for Vulture as the villian, go Ben Kingsley !!

Personally, I would rather see The Lizard finally get his time in the spotlight as villian.

Oh, and as for Hathaway being in it, Black Cat or nothing.. seriously Vulturness or whatever..dumb idea

Jeremy1983 · 12-08-2009, 10:35 PM

John Travolta as Ryder in Taking of Pelham 123 of one of the worst movie villains ever. His performance was simply a pathetic caricature of just about every cheesy villain in cinema history.

Blu Titan · 12-08-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy1983

John Travolta as Ryder in Taking of Pelham 123 of one of the worst movie villains ever. His performance was simply a pathetic caricature of just about every cheesy villain in cinema history.

I have to agree with you.

Psychonaut · 12-08-2009, 10:57 PM

No mention of John Travolta for his bad guy role in Broken Arrow? That's the first I thought of.

Clark Kent · 12-08-2009, 11:00 PM

The problem is that the studios cast those actors for their name recognition. None of them made much sense for the character they were playing, but studios are obsessed with getting popular names for key roles because they increase box office turnout initially.

Tcan21 · 12-08-2009, 11:04 PM

yeah its extremely difficult to even put Timothy Olyphant in the same catergory as the other Die Hard villains. Alan Rickman, William Sadler, John Amos, and Jeremy Irons all did a great job in their roles.

Offender_Mullet · 12-08-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychonaut

No mention of John Travolta for his bad guy role in Broken Arrow? That's the first I thought of.

I was going to put that to, but didn't want to turn my op into a Travolta-hating fest.

He was worse in the other 2 movies I listed anyway.

jadedeath · 12-08-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Offender_Mullet

Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin in Spider-Man
Again, another actor who's too feminie for a bad guy role.

This entry makes the entire list a joke.

Dafoe was awesome for the part.

Logan

Psychonaut · 12-08-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Offender_Mullet

I was going to put that to, but didn't want to turn my op into a Travolta-hating fest.

He was worse in the other 2 movies I listed anyway.

I haven't seen Pelham 123 and I don't remember him in The Punisher. His Broken Arrow bad guy performance is one of the main reasons I haven't seen Pelham yet.

phoenixram1977 · 12-08-2009, 11:48 PM

Alot of actors cant pull off being a villian. One who can always pull it off is Christopher Walken, he did a good job in Nick of Time, The Prophecy, and countless others. I dont think he can pull of being in a role he had like in Catch me if you can.

Offender_Mullet · 12-09-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jadedeath

This entry makes the entire list a joke. Dafoe was awesome for the part. Logan

Warning! *****Angry Fanboy Alert***** Warning! *****Angry Fanboy Alert*****

That my opinion, bud. At least I gave more than a 1-word reason though.

You are the most negative Canadian ever. Are you sure you're not from Detroit?

LynxFX · 12-09-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Offender_Mullet

Billy Zane as Cal Hockley in Titanic
The hammiest villian in the the hammiest movie ever.

Awwww he was great in his hammie performance.

"How dare you PUT YOUR hands on MY fianCE!

A lot of Travolta mentions, but I think he was perfect in Swordfish.

Kristanna Loken in Terminator 3 was pretty bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadedeath

This entry makes the entire list a joke.

Dafoe was awesome for the part.

Logan

Dafoe wasn't bad, it was the costume that was a joke.

Fighter · 12-09-2009, 12:42 AM

Timothy Olyphant for sure. All I can picture is his Hitman character in the new Die-Hard film...it was kind of weird.

I actually liked Billy Zane as a bad guy in Titantic

CZAR · 12-09-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LynxFX

Awwww he was great in his hammie performance.

"How dare you PUT YOUR hands on MY fianCE!

A lot of Travolta mentions, but I think he was perfect in Swordfish.

Kristanna Loken in Terminator 3 was pretty bad.

Dafoe wasn't bad, it was the costume that was a joke.

Thats exactly it! Got Em!!

JonD7 · 12-09-2009, 01:32 AM

Dafoe, in my opinion... was the best villain in any of the Spider-Man films.

hardcorefrokid · 12-09-2009, 01:44 AM

William Dafoe was awesome as Gobby!

12-08-2009, 09:51 PM	#1
Offender_Mullet Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Illinois Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:10	Say Goodnight To The Bad Guy: Worst Casting Choices For Villains Since the Spider-Man IV casting rumor was already in the official thread, I've deleted that part. Thanks Beta Man! Here a few of my choices for worst casting blunders for villains. I'll update it as more come to mind: Timothy Olyphant as Thomas Gabriel in Die Hard: Live Free Or Die Hard He was about as menacing as a runway model on Xanax. Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin in Spider-Man Again, another actor who's too feminie for a bad guy role. Billy Zane as Cal Hockley in Titanic The hammiest villian in the the hammiest movie ever. Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor in Superman Returns Just admit it people, you were watching Spacey instead of Luthor. Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze in Batman & Robin Granted Ahhhhnuld's character was a classic unintentionally funny role, but this was just awful. "Iiiiiiiiiiice!" Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut in X-Men III: The Last Stand I love Vinnie Jones, except in this. While his line of "I'm the Juggernaut btch" is timeless, he just looked so awkward in costume. John Travolta as Howard Saint in The Punisher* Ok, while he DOES have THE BEST a*hole move ever (throwing his wife off a bridge then she gets run over by a train), Travolta has never been quality at playing the bad guy. John Travolta as Ryder in The Taking Of Pehlam 1 2 3* While he had the look, he was trying waaaay too hard, making it a parody more than anything. The trailers made me believe he finally pulled it off, but sadly, this was not the case. Last edited by Offender_Mullet; 12-09-2009 at 12:27 AM.

12-08-2009, 10:07 PM	#4
Offender_Mullet Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Illinois Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:10	True, something different as we already had the flying bad guy in SP1. Edit: Oops forgot about the official SP4 thread. Already asked a mod to change my title. Last edited by Offender_Mullet; 12-08-2009 at 10:25 PM.

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FromTheInside Senior Member Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Arlington, TX Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:890 DVD collection:419 MA collection:247 Digital collection:347 iTunes collection:157 Trading Score:25	wtf spiderman 4??

12-08-2009, 10:01 PM	#3
phoenixram1977 Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:San Antonio, Tx Blu-ray collection:956 DVD collection:13 Trading Score:77	Not sure I agree with the villian choice, how bout the lizard, or getting venom right somehow. I wish they would have named each movie differently instead of 1, 2, 3. It would have been great if they had something like the web of spiderman (part 1), the amazing spiderman (part 2) and so forth....

12-08-2009, 10:34 PM	#5
dvd_mazter Power Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Manitoba Home Theater Gallery:9 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:740 Blu-ray reviews: 146	John Malkovich is a fine actor but if they are going for Vulture as the villian, go Ben Kingsley !! Personally, I would rather see The Lizard finally get his time in the spotlight as villian. Oh, and as for Hathaway being in it, Black Cat or nothing.. seriously Vulturness or whatever..dumb idea

12-08-2009, 10:35 PM	#6
Jeremy1983 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Laguna Beach, CA Blu-ray collection:140 Trading Score:4	John Travolta as Ryder in Taking of Pelham 123 of one of the worst movie villains ever. His performance was simply a pathetic caricature of just about every cheesy villain in cinema history.

12-08-2009, 10:57 PM	#8
Psychonaut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Second left after Wal-Mart Blu-ray collection:111	No mention of John Travolta for his bad guy role in Broken Arrow? That's the first I thought of.

12-08-2009, 11:00 PM	#9
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	The problem is that the studios cast those actors for their name recognition. None of them made much sense for the character they were playing, but studios are obsessed with getting popular names for key roles because they increase box office turnout initially.

12-08-2009, 11:04 PM	#10
Tcan21 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Carrollton, Texas Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:353	yeah its extremely difficult to even put Timothy Olyphant in the same catergory as the other Die Hard villains. Alan Rickman, William Sadler, John Amos, and Jeremy Irons all did a great job in their roles.

12-08-2009, 11:48 PM	#14
phoenixram1977 Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:San Antonio, Tx Blu-ray collection:956 DVD collection:13 Trading Score:77	Alot of actors cant pull off being a villian. One who can always pull it off is Christopher Walken, he did a good job in Nick of Time, The Prophecy, and countless others. I dont think he can pull of being in a role he had like in Catch me if you can.

12-09-2009, 12:42 AM	#17
Fighter Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2009 Location:☣☣☣☣☣ Blu-ray collection:14	Timothy Olyphant for sure. All I can picture is his Hitman character in the new Die-Hard film...it was kind of weird. I actually liked Billy Zane as a bad guy in Titantic

12-09-2009, 01:32 AM	#19
JonD7 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Cali 4K collection:86 Blu-ray collection:251	Dafoe, in my opinion... was the best villain in any of the Spider-Man films.

12-09-2009, 01:44 AM	#20
hardcorefrokid Power Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Southern California Blu-ray collection:97 Blu-ray reviews: 16	William Dafoe was awesome as Gobby!

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