BD-J limits number of viewings? - Blu-ray Forum

baccusboy · 07-28-2007, 03:29 PM

Is it true that future plans for BD-J may include selling blu-ray movie discs that become useless after a certain number of views?

I read that this is indeed a possibility with BD-J, and that the option for doing so with the technology is there.

RichiPuppy · 07-28-2007, 03:31 PM

lol, don't believe everything you read.

buckshot · 07-28-2007, 03:36 PM

I heard that blu ray causes tooth decay and eats kittens!

nhaase · 07-28-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by buckshot

I heard that blu ray causes tooth decay and eats kittens!

From Family Guy: BD-J killed my father, and raped my mother.

Aaron · 07-28-2007, 10:40 PM

I heard it on teh internets so it must be true!

baccusboy · 07-28-2007, 10:48 PM

Well, one of the OPs changed the title of my post, so they must have decided to let this one go without being deleted -- at least for now.

AVS was indeed where I read this being mentioned.

Maximus · 07-28-2007, 03:36 PM

How would the disc know?

It would have to access a central database, but considering that ethernet is not mandatory, this is pretty impossible.

The Don · 07-28-2007, 04:06 PM

I got this rash on my nether regions from watching too many blu-rays...

EVERYONE STOP NOW!

ottscay · 07-28-2007, 04:13 PM

Um, since BD-J could create a virtual machine that stays in persistant storage, I would think the applet in memory could simply count the number of times a disk was played. Of course, that would only work in machines with persistent memory, so it wouldn't be possible to build a unified sales architecture around it.

Also, the studios would be pissing off the very crowd trying hardest to avoid the rental-based media market. I highly doubt there is (or ever will be) any serious attempt to find a way to impliment this on HD optical media.

VOD and DLs on the other hand...

Blu_J · 07-28-2007, 04:24 PM

uuuhhhh....no

dialog_gvf · 07-28-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baccusboy

Is it true that future plans for BD-J may include selling blu-ray movie discs that become useless after a certain number of views?

I read that this is indeed a possibility with BD-J, and that the option for doing so with the technology is there.

I suppose it is a possibility. BD-J is a full application language, so clearly they could do it. But, I've heard of no plans.

But, it would be easier with a format with mandatory Internet access. Is there such a thing?

I would expect there is enough scripting capability in HDi to do it too.

Cain · 07-28-2007, 08:50 PM

Where does this stuff get started ??? Rumors like that spread fast.

BorrowedTime · 07-28-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cain

Where does this stuff get started ??? Rumors like that spread fast.

AVS?

dialog_gvf · 07-28-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cain

Where does this stuff get started ??? Rumors like that spread fast.

There's always someone out there pushing the next anti-Blu-ray rumour. I've always figured Blu-ray had the win from the beginning because so much of HD DVD propaganda is anti-Blu ray instead of pro-HD DVD.

As I used to say on AVS:

Instead of telling us all the time why we shouldn't buy Blu-ray, how about telling us why we should buy HD DVD.

And a certain Microsoft vice president is responsible for a disturbing number of the rumours:

Let's see:

- DL BD-50 is science fiction (clearly nonsense)
- Blu-ray will never be cheaper to make than HD DVD (already wrong for BD-50 v. combos)
- BD+ will aid hackers
- HD PiP has been removed from the BD Profile 1.1 (complete nonsense)

Counter-rumour (baseless): Funny how a format with mandatory Internet connectivity and a browser-type interactive system from Microsoft is expected to be totally trusted. Goodness knows there have been no issues with such things in the past.

Stuie · 07-28-2007, 10:36 PM

12...

whippersnapper · 07-28-2007, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baccusboy

Is it true that future plans for BD-J may include selling blu-ray movie discs that become useless after a certain number of views?

I read that this is indeed a possibility with BD-J, and that the option for doing so with the technology is there.

Nope. The only format that has future plans to sell "movie discs that become useless after a certain number of views" is HD-DVD. Is this true?

baccusboy · 07-28-2007, 11:08 PM

The frustrating thing is the title of this was changed in a way that I didn't say it... I originally said something like, "Could BD-J limit # of viewings (in the future)." I didn't want it to sound like some kind of statement asking if it's happening now, but apparently, the OPs did.

07-28-2007, 03:29 PM	#1
baccusboy Banned Member since:Feb 2007 Location:South Korea Blu-ray reviews:3	BD-J limits number of viewings? Is it true that future plans for BD-J may include selling blu-ray movie discs that become useless after a certain number of views? I read that this is indeed a possibility with BD-J, and that the option for doing so with the technology is there.

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RichiPuppy Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	lol, don't believe everything you read.

07-28-2007, 03:36 PM	#3
buckshot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:san die ego Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	I heard that blu ray causes tooth decay and eats kittens!

07-28-2007, 10:40 PM	#5
Aaron Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Oklahoma City Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:33 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:4	I heard it on teh internets so it must be true!

07-28-2007, 10:48 PM	#6
baccusboy Banned Member since:Feb 2007 Location:South Korea Blu-ray reviews:3	Well, one of the OPs changed the title of my post, so they must have decided to let this one go without being deleted -- at least for now. AVS was indeed where I read this being mentioned.

07-28-2007, 03:36 PM	#7
Maximus Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2006	How would the disc know? It would have to access a central database, but considering that ethernet is not mandatory, this is pretty impossible.

07-28-2007, 04:06 PM	#8
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	I got this rash on my nether regions from watching too many blu-rays... EVERYONE STOP NOW!

07-28-2007, 04:13 PM	#9
ottscay Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	Um, since BD-J could create a virtual machine that stays in persistant storage, I would think the applet in memory could simply count the number of times a disk was played. Of course, that would only work in machines with persistent memory, so it wouldn't be possible to build a unified sales architecture around it. Also, the studios would be pissing off the very crowd trying hardest to avoid the rental-based media market. I highly doubt there is (or ever will be) any serious attempt to find a way to impliment this on HD optical media. VOD and DLs on the other hand...

07-28-2007, 04:24 PM	#10
Blu_J Active Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:SoCal	uuuhhhh....no

07-28-2007, 08:50 PM	#12
Cain Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Columbia, SC	Where does this stuff get started ??? Rumors like that spread fast.

07-28-2007, 10:36 PM	#15
Stuie Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	12...

07-28-2007, 11:08 PM	#17
baccusboy Banned Member since:Feb 2007 Location:South Korea Blu-ray reviews:3	The frustrating thing is the title of this was changed in a way that I didn't say it... I originally said something like, "Could BD-J limit # of viewings (in the future)." I didn't want it to sound like some kind of statement asking if it's happening now, but apparently, the OPs did.

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