HD-DVD doesn't even have 1080p OUTPUT?!

[ReduxInflux]

how can it be superior?? knuckleheads...

am i right or wrong?

[nhaase]

Originally Posted by ReduxInflux

how can it be superior?? knuckleheads...

The cheapest players do not (HD-A2, A3), but the rest do.

[Redrox]

Not all their players do, but HD-DVD DOES have 1080p

[Leopold BUTTERS]

you=wrong

But not all HD DVD players support 1080p, some are 1080i max. Probably for poeple with outh the 1080p tvs, makes the price way lower.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Redrox

Not all their players do, but HD-DVD DOES have 1080p

But, not complete. Let's see anyone do 1080p/24 with PiP on HD DVD.

It's trivial for BD because of the spec. It's next to impossible for HD DVD.

Gary

[BLUE BALLS]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

But, not complete. Let's see anyone do 1080p/24 with PiP on HD DVD.

It's trivial for BD because of the spec. It's next to impossible for HD DVD.

Gary

You are incorrect Toshiba has the firmware update to put into the current XA2 to enable 1080P/24 not to many displays available yet to really take advantage of this so why update the players with this firmware yet.

[RichiPuppy]

With pip?

[Blu-Light]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

You are incorrect Toshiba has the firmware update to put into the current XA2 to enable 1080P/24 not to many displays available yet to really take advantage of this so why update the players with this firmware yet.

Hello TRoll. YOU ARE WRONG. HD-DUD cannot do 1080p/24. Try again!

[BluDrew]

I think the HD-A20 and HD-XA2 output 1080p. They'll also be getting a firmware update next month to support 24p, according to Toshiba. I think the Onkyo will do 1080p and 24p when it's released too if I remember correctly.

Edit: Just checked and yes, they're getting a firmware update next month for 24p. The new HD-A30 and A35 coming out in September/October will also do 1080p and output 24p as well.

[BigB88]

What HD-DVD doesn't have is the storage capacity nor will they. Blu Ray is technically superior and its sad to see misinformation and the misinformed stating anything otherwise. Paramount made their move based soley on greed, good bad or indifferent, these are the facts. And because of this short term thinking viewpoint, they will suffer in the long run as so many other companies with short term gains and long term loses have done.

[BluDrew]

Originally Posted by BigB88

What HD-DVD doesn't have is the storage capacity nor will they. Blu Ray is technically superior and its sad to see misinformation and the misinformed stating anything otherwise. Paramount made their move based soley on greed, good bad or indifferent, these are the facts. And because of this short term thinking viewpoint, they will suffer in the long run as so many other companies with short term gains and long term loses have done.

Yeah, Blu-ray does offer the better storage no doubt. I don't know if HD DVD is going to come out with the triple layer 51GB discs, but I haven't heard anything about it since it was mentioned last January.

[BLUE BALLS]

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

Hello TRoll. YOU ARE WRONG. HD-DUD cannot do 1080p/24. Try again!

You may want to check that big guy

Toshiba Announces 24p Output

Coming in early September, Toshiba will add an enhanced performance function to its HD-XA2 and HD-A20 HD DVD players by offering the capability for users to update the firmware of their players allowing playback of film content in 1080p/24 frames per second, or 24p. Movie films are traditionally captured at 24 frames per second and Toshiba's HD DVD players will be able to maintain this frame rate allowing consumers to enjoy movies in their native form

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070629/nef003.html

Alas they can also use the internet for updates via the ethernet port only the current gameconsole for the BR camp can do this. Oh and the new to come Denon 2000.00 dollar machine supposedly. They also aren't even standardized yet and the only one that is going to be 1.1 compliant is the new Denon.

[Papi4baby]

So really right now, HDDVD cannot do 24P, not that i care, but really it cannot. So it is just a rumor or a statement said that it will happen in the short future, we shall see then. mmm k

[ClaytonMG]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

You may want to check that big guy

Toshiba Announces 24p Output

Coming in early September, Toshiba will add an enhanced performance function to its HD-XA2 and HD-A20 HD DVD players by offering the capability for users to update the firmware of their players allowing playback of film content in 1080p/24 frames per second, or 24p. Movie films are traditionally captured at 24 frames per second and Toshiba's HD DVD players will be able to maintain this frame rate allowing consumers to enjoy movies in their native form

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070629/nef003.html

Alas they can also use the internet for updates via the ethernet port only the current gameconsole for the BR camp can do this. Oh and the new to come Denon 2000.00 dollar machine supposedly. They also aren't even standardized yet and the only one that is going to be 1.1 compliant is the new Denon.

Actually, doesn't the Pioneer have an internet connection also? As for the HD-DVD, it's like half and half as far as 1080p output. And there's only one player that does 7.1 sound and it's not on the market yet. Do you have any responses to that?

[Heavens Downfall]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

Toshiba Announces 24p Output

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Toshiba? Whats that?

[Blu-Light]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

You may want to check that big guy

Toshiba Announces 24p Output

Coming in early September, Toshiba will add an enhanced performance function to its HD-XA2 and HD-A20 HD DVD players by offering the capability for users to update the firmware of their players allowing playback of film content in 1080p/24 frames per second, or 24p. Movie films are traditionally captured at 24 frames per second and Toshiba's HD DVD players will be able to maintain this frame rate allowing consumers to enjoy movies in their native form

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070629/nef003.html

Alas they can also use the internet for updates via the ethernet port only the current gameconsole for the BR camp can do this. Oh and the new to come Denon 2000.00 dollar machine supposedly. They also aren't even standardized yet and the only one that is going to be 1.1 compliant is the new Denon.

Like I said, it CANNOT do 1080p/24. Mr. Testicle

[RUR]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

Alas they can also use the internet for updates via the ethernet port only the current gameconsole for the BR camp can do this.

Actually, my Samsung BD-P1200 does this beautifully. Also 1080p/24 and upscales SD DVD's as well as the XA2.

[jorg]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

You may want to check that big guy

Toshiba Announces 24p Output

Coming in early September, Toshiba will add an enhanced performance function to its HD-XA2 and HD-A20 HD DVD players by offering the capability for users to update the firmware of their players allowing playback of film content in 1080p/24 frames per second, or 24p. Movie films are traditionally captured at 24 frames per second and Toshiba's HD DVD players will be able to maintain this frame rate allowing consumers to enjoy movies in their native form

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070629/nef003.html

Alas they can also use the internet for updates via the ethernet port only the current gameconsole for the BR camp can do this. Oh and the new to come Denon 2000.00 dollar machine supposedly. They also aren't even standardized yet and the only one that is going to be 1.1 compliant is the new Denon.

learn to read please you wroung there is NO toshiba or hd dvd player out that can do these 4 things at once 1080p 24p pip and 7.1 sound and all players can be updated threw a cd which u can request sent to you from manufacture or burn your own. and in case u havent read teh 1.1 specs EVERY player made after oct.31 MUST have a secondary video and adio decorder and 256mb or local storage! (all movie made in the future MUST be compatiable with all players including first gen ones) and buddy lmost blu-ray plyers are PS3s which can and will be updated to profile 1.1

[Papi4baby]

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

Like I said, it CANNOT do 1080p/24. Mr. Testicle

LOL now i see it goes with his forum name

[BluDrew]

Originally Posted by jorg

learn to read please you wroung there is NO toshiba or hd dvd player out that can do these 4 things at once 1080p 24p pip and 7.1 sound and all players can be updated threw a cd which u can request sent to you from manufacture or burn your own. and in case u havent read teh 1.1 specs EVERY player made after oct.31 MUST have a secondary video and adio decorder and 256mb or local storage! (all movie made in the future MUST be compatiable with all players including first gen ones) and buddy lmost blu-ray plyers are PS3s which can and will be updated to profile 1.1

I think the Toshiba HD-A35 that is coming in October will do all that -- 1080p/24, PiP, 7.1 bitstream via HDMI, update through ethernet port of CD.

Doesn't the BDA only mandate that NEW players announced after October 31 must be profile 1.1? As far as I know this does not affect current models at all. They are only profile 1.0 but can still be sold for as long as the manufacturer wishes? I hope the PS3 is upgradable, don't see why not, but Sony still has not confirmed it yet, which is making me nervous because I expected some sort of statement from them by now.