Back off the fence; born-again Blu

[jedisinclair]

I was wrong... see my last post in the thread...

[Teazle]

Originally Posted by jedisinclair

OK... first of all let me say thanks to everyone here who, with their intelligent, fact giving methods showed me Blu-ray was "The way". I bought a PS3 and about 45 BD movies and was so sure Blu-ray was the way to go. I'm not saying it's not, I just can't believe what happened with Paramount. I was SOOOooooo looking forward to Transformers on Blu-ray. I sold my PS3. I sold all my Blu-ray movies and now I'm gonna wait. I want to be an early adopter and I know a lot of you will say "support the war by buying Blu-ray movies"... but WHAT IF... I really fear that an elongated war will kill both formats. I still am pulling for Blu... just not with money I can't afford to burn. Things are too wishy washy and I don't have the patience. When Blu-ray wins, I'll probably buy a couple hundred movies on the day I know the war is over... but until then, I'm back on the fence.

No worries. In a few months you can just buy another PS3 and rebuy all those movies. Everything will still be supported.

[j_rocca42]

Grow some huevos man...

[Smackos]

Mate, in all honesty I could'nt sell up now even if I wanted to. I just could'nt go back to watching standard dvd's anymore I really can't. Especially my favourites that I've built up now in Blu-ray. I'd cry if I had to watch things like Apocalypto again on DVD now knowing what I had before. Even if both formats go tits up then I'll never get rid of my collection now.

It's always each to they're own don't get me wrong but for me I'd rather have someone I know go dual format than give up totally on Blu-ray. At the end of the day sales count, if you spend the odd bit on HD DVD so what, we all know that the majority of your money'll still go towards Blu product and in my eyes it's better Sony and co get SOME money from you for Blu-ray than none whatsoever. I know this is blu-ray.com but is'nt it true.. really.. 2nd best or not I could'nt go back to DVD even if it mean't going dual format in time.

Good luck to you though mate.. hope it all works out for you ...

[MrBogey]

You spent $2000 on a whim and you don't have money to burn?

That doesn't make sense. This isn't like stock investing where getting in early makes you money. Do you expect whatever format wins will net you a return on investment? I don't get it. Seriously, I really don't get how selling off 45 BD-ROMs and a PS3 because you don't think the format will win outright makes sense. It's just crazy and shortsighted.

[damandan05]

wow you sold your ps3 man your missing out this winter... sucks. See ya again soon my friend, you'll be back.

Even IF Hd won it's not like you wont be able to watch the movies you already purchased, patially why i dont understand why you would get rid of everything. Still come and visit us we'll be right here.

[MacHaggis]

Interesting you should backtrack due to the Paramount/Dream Works decision.

That is the reason I actually joined the Blu-ray group, buying some hardware and movies a few months earlier than I originally planned.

[erowe83]

You are crazy man. thats all i got.

[glenn22]

Originally Posted by MacHaggis

Interesting you should backtrack due to the Paramount/Dream Works decision.

That is the reason I actually joined the Blu-ray group, buying some hardware and movies a few months earlier than I originally planned.

Can you explain that? I am interested to hear how that made you go Blu.

[ClaytonMG]

.... wait... you had 45 titles on Blu-Ray and a PS3... and instead of keeping those for the time being and not buying any more titles, you sold them? No comment on this one... I don't want to sound to mean.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by MacHaggis

Interesting you should backtrack due to the Paramount/Dream Works decision.

That is the reason I actually joined the Blu-ray group, buying some hardware and movies a few months earlier than I originally planned.

Ironically, same here! I doubt we're the only ones, so it's quite possible that for every wuss that jumped ship (or went neutral--same thing!) at the Paramount desci$ion, someone jumped onboard earlier than they planned to...

[Esox50]

I could potentially see slowing down purchases of software if someone is "worried" about the format war. But selling off a PS3 and 45 BDs, both of which are already a sunk cost, makes no sense to me...

[Terjyn]

A single bad announcement after months and months of pro BDA stuff caused you to pull your support, to the extent you sold your entire collection?

If so, you weren't really with Blu-Ray anyway, you are a bandwagonner.

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

A single bad announcement after months and months of pro BDA stuff caused you to pull your support, to the extent you sold your entire collection?

If so, you weren't really with Blu-Ray anyway, you are a bandwagonner.

This is why he's back on the fence:



Just couldn't resist could he?

[reiella]

That's your choice, obviously.

Only thing I'd like to chime in with, is if you don't have to sell all the back, well. Even if the 'format fails', you still have the earlier titles you bought.

[glenn22]

Originally Posted by jedisinclair

OK... first of all let me say thanks to everyone here who, with their intelligent, fact giving methods showed me Blu-ray was "The way". I bought a PS3 and about 45 BD movies and was so sure Blu-ray was the way to go. I'm not saying it's not, I just can't believe what happened with Paramount. I was SOOOooooo looking forward to Transformers on Blu-ray. I sold my PS3. I sold all my Blu-ray movies and now I'm gonna wait. I want to be an early adopter and I know a lot of you will say "support the war by buying Blu-ray movies"... but WHAT IF... I really fear that an elongated war will kill both formats. I still am pulling for Blu... just not with money I can't afford to burn. Things are too wishy washy and I don't have the patience. When Blu-ray wins, I'll probably buy a couple hundred movies on the day I know the war is over... but until then, I'm back on the fence.

I get the impression that your choice has more to it than just the paramount deal. Sounds like you might be going through some financial hard times? Anyways, the facts are that the Paramount deal has barely affected Blu-ray's momentum.

The sales figures since the deal are 56% Blu to 44% HD-DVD, which is down from 68% Blu to 32% HD-DVD... that would seem like a bad thing if it weren't for the fact that during the most recent sales week, Heroes and Blades of Glory came out for HD-DVD and what came out for Blu-ray??? nothing. Any yet we STILL had more sales than the HD-DVD camp.... I'd go so far as to say that in the next few weeks the ratio will be closer to 70/30 and maybe even 75/25.... Blu-ray standalone players are selling more now than HD-DVD, even with the higher price tag! Blu-ray is stronger than ever, paramount hasn't changed much.

[brian lawson]

Originally Posted by glenn22

Anyways, the facts are that the Paramount deal has barely affected Blu-ray's momentum.

i hate to say it but it comments like these that would make people not believe anything else you (or blurayers) might be saying. you can say what you want obviously, but to say that it has barely affected bluray's momentum is just pure denial. it frigin sucks and it changes everything....no other news in the past year sucks more and you make it out to be nothing. i only wish people would stop talking this way because it makes blu-ray sound like a farce and people that really can make a difference see right through it. and yes i'm noob to the forum but not to the technology

[powerSURG]

Originally Posted by brian lawson

i hate to say it but it comments like these that would make people not believe anything else you (or blurayers) might be saying. you can say what you want obviously, but to say that it has barely affected bluray's momentum is just pure denial. it frigin sucks and it changes everything....no other news in the past year sucks more and you make it out to be nothing. i only wish people would stop talking this way because it makes blu-ray sound like a farce and people that really can make a difference see right through it. and yes i'm noob to the forum but not to the technology

Maybe you didn't notice that Blu outsold the dud even after new releases for HD DVD and no new releases for blu. Hence, it didn't affect blurays sales momentum

[brian lawson]

Originally Posted by powerSURG

Maybe you didn't notice that Blu outsold the dud even after new releases for HD DVD and no new releases for blu. Hence, it didn't affect blurays sales momentum

dude...to borrow a phrase from some columnist...that's like saying an ant is bigger than a flea before the big shoe of dvd comes down to squash them both. 60-70% of nothing is still nothing. studio support is EVERYTHING right now...this whole thing could be over the moment another major studio bails. how in the hell will a warner or disney defection not be followed by everyone else...if paramount made a decision none of us expected, whats to say another wont

[glenn22]

Originally Posted by brian lawson

dude...to borrow a phrase from some columnist...that's like saying an ant is bigger than a flea before the big shoe of dvd comes down to squash them both. 60-70% of nothing is still nothing. studio support is EVERYTHING right now...this whole thing could be over the moment another major studio bails. how in the hell will a warner or disney defection not be followed by everyone else...if paramount made a decision none of us expected, whats to say another wont

You are right with this point, Industry support is everything. Paramount was a loss for sure, but probably the best studio to lose out of all of them. (least AAA titles from paramount). The truth is that Industry support is governed by sales figures and Blu-ray is twice as strong as HD-DVD in that category. Blu-ray also has the support of more studios even AFTER Paramounts' decision. If sales keep going the way they are, Blu-ray will win.... dollars speaks louder than words. Yes sales are far less than SD-DVD, but they are increasing exponentially.