The potential HD DVD downfall - Blu-ray Forum

steve69bez · 10-03-2007, 10:37 AM

I used to be format neutral but after getting my PS3 I decided it was a much better machine than the xbox hd drive, So I have decided to sell my HD DVD collection on Amazon, this is where the problems have started, although Toshiba said that they gave HD DVD its name to be consumer friendly and to avoid confusion among people who don't know about hd I think they have really shot themselves in the foot, I have sold a few hd dvds on amazon now and have had numerous people email me saying "this dvd you sent me doesn't work in my dvd player!" I reply saying that its a HD DVD not a regular dvd, now this has caused so much confusion and lost me money from having to get items returned even though they are clearly listed as HD DVD. The regular joes just think that these are normal dvds and they will work on any dvd player but will look better, At least Sony changed the name completely so to avoid confusion. Go blu ray!!!!

lokus · 10-03-2007, 10:41 AM

Very good point about the naming. Welcome aboard the Blu-ray team. Enjoy the format!

DrinkMore · 10-03-2007, 10:42 AM

Yes, one of the many downfalls of HD-DUD!

Welcome to the site

steve69bez · 10-03-2007, 10:43 AM

Thanks I am enjoying the format a lot, with my new ps3 and onkyo 605 its an amazing experience, I'd even go to say its better than the cinema!!

Scorxpion · 10-03-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by steve69bez

Thanks I am enjoying the format a lot, with my new ps3 and onkyo 605 its an amazing experience, I'd even go to say its better than the cinema!!

Well Done and GOOD CHOICE.

steve69bez · 10-03-2007, 10:51 AM

Thanks guys i'm glad I posted this on here and not AV forums I would have seriously got a bashing on that website they are all HD DVD hungry fanboys

Grisle · 10-03-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by steve69bez

Thanks I am enjoying the format a lot, with my new ps3 and onkyo 605 its an amazing experience, I'd even go to say its better than the cinema!!

My setup isn't quite there yet, but I can sure see how it can be someday. I'm re-watching movies more and I keep thinking when I'm either in the theater or just watching a movie on tv "man I can't wait to watch that on Blu-ray!"

I was watching The 13th Warrior the other day on High def and I thought it looked terrible...just like SD. It's not my favorite movie or anything, but I'd love to watch it again in BD just to see what they do.

steve69bez · 10-03-2007, 11:01 AM

I must admit not every movie looks good in high def but thats generally down to the studio doing a crap job of remastering, I watched black hawk down yesterday and it looked and sounded like a brand new film and give it that extra depth I hadn't previously seen on dvd

SolidBlu · 10-03-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by steve69bez

Thanks guys i'm glad I posted this on here and not AV forums I would have seriously got a bashing on that website they are all HD DVD hungry fanboys

welcome to BLU world!

excellent choice!

w_tanoto · 10-03-2007, 11:33 AM

welcome. I might be quick to make decision to blu-ray (with the risk of being disappointed later), never been neutral, but I am happy with BD position against hd dvd.
you made the right choice

MOONPHASE · 10-03-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by steve69bez

I used to be format neutral but after getting my PS3 I decided it was a much better machine than the xbox hd drive, So I have decided to sell my HD DVD collection on Amazon, this is where the problems have started, although Toshiba said that they gave HD DVD its name to be consumer friendly and to avoid confusion among people who don't know about hd I think they have really shot themselves in the foot, I have sold a few hd dvds on amazon now and have had numerous people email me saying "this dvd you sent me doesn't work in my dvd player!" I reply saying that its a HD DVD not a regular dvd, now this has caused so much confusion and lost me money from having to get items returned even though they are clearly listed as HD DVD. The regular joes just think that these are normal dvds and they will work on any dvd player but will look better, At least Sony changed the name completely so to avoid confusion. Go blu ray!!!!

its like people are blind or something they see the words saying dvd but the full wording is hd-dvd so people think that hd-dvd movies can work on a regular dvd player and plus on amazon.com it says this movie can only be played on a hd-dvd player people just dont read the important stuff and plus the Playstation 3 is one of the best gaming machines by far there is so much you can do on it to be honest when i first heard of the price being $600 when it came out i thought that was kind of a cheap price for a gaming machine that has internet, free online gaming, playing blu-ray movies in beautiful picture and sound thats usually 99% better then hd-dvd movies plus the folding@home program where you support chemical research just by clicking on it and its not even a charity, plus so many other things

lch · 10-03-2007, 11:48 AM

you didn't mention "boiling required to view disc"

welcome to the bright side.

steve69bez · 10-03-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

Playstation 3 is one of the best gaming machines by far there is so much you can do on it to be honest when i first heard of the price being $600 when it came out i thought that was kind of a cheap price for a gaming machine that has internet, free online gaming, playing blu-ray movies in beautiful picture and sound thats usually 99% better then hd-dvd movies plus the folding@home program where you support chemical research just by clicking on it and its not even a charity, plus so many other things

I agree I think blu ray would have one some time ago but sonys marketing is terrible I haven't seen one ad on tv for a PS3 here in the UK, they really need to plug this machine especially the fact that it can do lots of things and even be a freeview box

gand41f · 10-03-2007, 11:59 AM

Are you sure they didn't return them because they didn't work on their HD DVD players? A lot of them don't work, you know.

Kidding aside, I believe this is exactly the reason why HD DVD studios are sticking to combo discs for most new releases, despite the widespread reports of massive failures. They can't afford to handle returns from DVD-only buyers.

enjoy
gandalf

steve69bez · 10-03-2007, 12:03 PM

I can't afford to handle returns either I wish I could sell them elsewhere but there isn't anywhere near me that will accept them

gand41f · 10-03-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by steve69bez

I can't afford to handle returns either I wish I could sell them elsewhere but there isn't anywhere near me that will accept them

Don't you wish they were combos? Oops, if they were, people might still complain they don't work...unless you gave them boiling instructions.

enjoy
gandalf

MOONPHASE · 10-03-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by steve69bez

I can't afford to handle returns either I wish I could sell them elsewhere but there isn't anywhere near me that will accept them

gamestop accepts hd-dvd trade in of movies and also for blu-ray or at least thats how the one i work at is like but dont know if thats even available in the UK

steve69bez · 10-03-2007, 12:45 PM

is gamestop in the uk?

milou6 · 10-03-2007, 12:45 PM

Many casual consumers are so confused by hd in general that this doesn't surprise me.

I've heard stories of high rates of return at stores for this same reason, people buying hd-dvds thinking it's just like a Superbit version or something. Part of it is the marketing for dvd players that "upconvert/upsample to hd" which has not only confused people's understanding of hd itself but also made many owners of said players think they can play "hd dvd".

Anyway, my wife thought hd-dvd was a better name because it was recognizable and if you have a brain and any clue you can figure out what it means -- but therin lies the problem -- most people don't have a brain+clue.

C6 Z06 · 10-03-2007, 01:49 PM

Welcome to the site and nice to see that you now bleed Blu only.

10-03-2007, 10:37 AM	#1
steve69bez Junior Member Member since:Sep 2007	The potential HD DVD downfall I used to be format neutral but after getting my PS3 I decided it was a much better machine than the xbox hd drive, So I have decided to sell my HD DVD collection on Amazon, this is where the problems have started, although Toshiba said that they gave HD DVD its name to be consumer friendly and to avoid confusion among people who don't know about hd I think they have really shot themselves in the foot, I have sold a few hd dvds on amazon now and have had numerous people email me saying "this dvd you sent me doesn't work in my dvd player!" I reply saying that its a HD DVD not a regular dvd, now this has caused so much confusion and lost me money from having to get items returned even though they are clearly listed as HD DVD. The regular joes just think that these are normal dvds and they will work on any dvd player but will look better, At least Sony changed the name completely so to avoid confusion. Go blu ray!!!!

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10-03-2007, 10:41 AM	#2
lokus Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Marlton, NJ Blu-ray collection:72	Very good point about the naming. Welcome aboard the Blu-ray team. Enjoy the format!

10-03-2007, 10:42 AM	#3
DrinkMore Banned Member since:Apr 2007 Location:That's What She Said! Blu-ray collection:140 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:3	Yes, one of the many downfalls of HD-DUD! Welcome to the site

10-03-2007, 10:43 AM	#4
steve69bez Junior Member Member since:Sep 2007	Thanks I am enjoying the format a lot, with my new ps3 and onkyo 605 its an amazing experience, I'd even go to say its better than the cinema!!

10-03-2007, 10:51 AM	#6
steve69bez Junior Member Member since:Sep 2007	Thanks guys i'm glad I posted this on here and not AV forums I would have seriously got a bashing on that website they are all HD DVD hungry fanboys

10-03-2007, 11:01 AM	#8
steve69bez Junior Member Member since:Sep 2007	I must admit not every movie looks good in high def but thats generally down to the studio doing a crap job of remastering, I watched black hawk down yesterday and it looked and sounded like a brand new film and give it that extra depth I hadn't previously seen on dvd

10-03-2007, 11:33 AM	#10
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	welcome. I might be quick to make decision to blu-ray (with the risk of being disappointed later), never been neutral, but I am happy with BD position against hd dvd. you made the right choice

10-03-2007, 11:48 AM	#12
lch Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:103 Blu-ray collection:813 Blu-ray reviews:1	you didn't mention "boiling required to view disc" welcome to the bright side.

10-03-2007, 11:59 AM	#14
gand41f Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:San Jose, California	Are you sure they didn't return them because they didn't work on their HD DVD players? A lot of them don't work, you know. Kidding aside, I believe this is exactly the reason why HD DVD studios are sticking to combo discs for most new releases, despite the widespread reports of massive failures. They can't afford to handle returns from DVD-only buyers. enjoy gandalf

10-03-2007, 12:03 PM	#15
steve69bez Junior Member Member since:Sep 2007	I can't afford to handle returns either I wish I could sell them elsewhere but there isn't anywhere near me that will accept them

10-03-2007, 12:45 PM	#18
steve69bez Junior Member Member since:Sep 2007	is gamestop in the uk?

10-03-2007, 12:45 PM	#19
milou6 Active Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Ohio	Many casual consumers are so confused by hd in general that this doesn't surprise me. I've heard stories of high rates of return at stores for this same reason, people buying hd-dvds thinking it's just like a Superbit version or something. Part of it is the marketing for dvd players that "upconvert/upsample to hd" which has not only confused people's understanding of hd itself but also made many owners of said players think they can play "hd dvd". Anyway, my wife thought hd-dvd was a better name because it was recognizable and if you have a brain and any clue you can figure out what it means -- but therin lies the problem -- most people don't have a brain+clue.

10-03-2007, 01:49 PM	#20
C6 Z06 Special Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Virginia 4K collection:427 Blu-ray collection:1695 Trading Score:18	Welcome to the site and nice to see that you now bleed Blu only.

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