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Old 10-24-2012, 03:45 PM   #1
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Default What do Blu manufacturers have against great classic cover art?

I have noticed for quite awhile that when some studios issue a Blu of a classic, they give it the blandest cover art ever. Bond films recently reflect this.





Some smaller companies do use original poster art, which I am happy about, but major studios...?

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Old 10-24-2012, 03:46 PM   #2
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I have noticed for quite awhile that when some studios issue a Blu of a classic, they give it the blandest cover art ever. Bond films recently reflect this.





Some smaller companies do use original poster art, which I am happy about, but major studios...?
Who knows? Email MGM and find out.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:47 PM   #3
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I have noticed for quite awhile that when some studios issue a Blu of a classic, they give it the blandest cover art ever. Bond films recently reflect this.





Some smaller companies do use original poster art, which I am happy about, but major studios...?
Yeah, I hear ya. Warner does obtain some classic poster art for some of their older releases but we all know Criterion is where it's at. Also love the artwork for Shout Factory's recent horror releases like Halloween II.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:59 PM   #4
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Easy recognizable actor/actress to sell to the widest demographic.

Old classic well executed posters for the niche demographic.

Quick & easy money in a shrinking industry.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:06 PM   #5
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they should follow Shouts lead and have the classic art reversible to the front. I did that with Piranha the other day. You can do that with most of their releases.

That way you can market to the greater audience and those in the audience can choose to reverse the cover if they want to.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:06 PM   #6
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Most of the times the studios don't have rights to use the original artwork. They sometimes go around this by changing a few colors, position of objects and even the font and title placement.
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They are trying to sell the film to as many people as possible. If a film looks obviously dated (by old fashioned cover art), it may (nay, will) turn off younger buyers for obvious reasons. If they can make it look fresh somehow, more modern, and more exciting, they will try. If they can trick someone walking through the store into thinking it is a newer film, they want to do that.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:12 PM   #8
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That's up to the distributor on the cover art
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:12 PM   #9
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I have noticed for quite awhile that when some studios issue a Blu of a classic, they give it the blandest cover art ever. Bond films recently reflect this.
Some smaller companies do use original poster art, which I am happy about, but major studios...?
While I hate, HATE most of the cover artwork on major studios' releases, there is a clear, corporate marketing rationale behind it, and I am afraid that they may well be right about it.

The original artwork is usually too complex to be easily identified when printed at the small size of a BD case, at least by casual buyers.

I know you, me, or mostly everybody on these boards are looking for a specific title when we go into a store, we don't need to be "attracted" by the cover or to identify it, we just need to locate it. Actually, we will buy the movie we want even if it has atrocious cover artwork. We are a "sure sell", so to speak.

But they want the kind of people who enters a store (be it brick & mortar or online) undecided on what to buy, be it because it is a present for somebody else or an impulse buy or whatever, to be "lured" to their releases. And they know, the studios know, that the deciding factor may be as random as a combination of colors, the clear presence of some high-power Hollywood star, or a design that blatantly rips off some other movie to the extent that it will trick the buyer into thinking that the movie itself will be similar to that other one that he or she liked, so he/she will like this one too.

It's just crass marketing at work, the key word here being "work", because I am afraid that, when it comes to the general, indiscriminate buyer target, studios are right and appealing to the lowest common denominator actually works, indeed. I am sure they have many surveys proving that sad fact.

On the other hand, smaller labels dedicated to release more obscure, even cult titles, can afford to use the original artwork, because they are aware that their consumer target are specifically looking for their niche product, and it's the movie itself that sells it.

Having said that, do they really need to be so, SO ugly, so amateurishly and poorly done so often? I don't think so.

And please, don't misunderstand me and take this for a defense of all that, I am as disgusted by it as the next guy, and I can even be so anal about it that there are a few titles I have refused to buy because of that (CAMELOT digibook, someone...?).

But that's the way it is.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:15 PM   #10
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I agree 100% but out of the full collection of James Bond classic Movie posters, Goldfinger is the only one I pretty much can't stand. It's Yuk.

Look at Thunderball, Live and Let Die, even Octopussy,... those are awesome.

They NEVER use movie poster art for James Bond on home video and it's always something I've corrected by printing custom covers.

I don't like custom covers,... so I hate to bother but for The Bond movies it's a must.

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I for one wish more companies would just use what they use for theater posters. If it's good enough to "sell" the movie for theater viewers, is it not good enough to sell Blu-Ray customers?
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:16 PM   #12
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Sadly I've noticed that cover art is attempting too hard to look trendy, it's trying too hard, its basically become Ikea and Target...those Bond covers are a prime example they look like they could be a magazine cover for the Latte generation, it's an accessory, these companies could care less about the collector, to them these movies are product, not art, the people in charge of putting these movies out probably couldn't tell you the first thing about them, thats why we get sh*tty transfers worthless special features and slapped together cover art, for once I'd like to see some true movie fans running things, but that day will never come
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I for one wish more companies would just use what they use for theater posters. If it's good enough to "sell" the movie for theater viewers, is it not good enough to sell Blu-Ray customers?
I agree, I don't want bad Photoshopped covers!
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:26 PM   #14
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i agree, i don't want bad photoshopped covers!
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:27 PM   #15
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Chinatown is a good example of trying to do it the right way. The execution was perfect, but im sorry the drawings are terrible. Is that the "original" artwork or is that some "retro" idea of the flick?

I googled my own question. It is the original poster. well done. Glad they kept it.

I still dont find it attractive.

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Old 10-24-2012, 04:42 PM   #16
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Sadly I've noticed that cover art is attempting too hard to look trendy, it's trying too hard, its basically become Ikea and Target...those Bond covers are a prime example they look like they could be a magazine cover for the Latte generation, it's an accessory, these companies could care less about the collector, to them these movies are product, not art, the people in charge of putting these movies out probably couldn't tell you the first thing about them, thats why we get sh*tty transfers worthless special features and slapped together cover art, for once I'd like to see some true movie fans running things, but that day will never come
You're right. It seems like some guy, who knows nothing about movies, just finds a picture of the star, puts a title on the cover and that is it.

Oh, for the days when film studios had entire art departments that turned out incredible poster art. They could even turn a schlocky horror film into something you wanted to go see because of the art.
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They are trying to sell the film to as many people as possible. If a film looks obviously dated (by old fashioned cover art), it may (nay, will) turn off younger buyers for obvious reasons. If they can make it look fresh somehow, more modern, and more exciting, they will try. If they can trick someone walking through the store into thinking it is a newer film, they want to do that.
That's right. The film aficionado is going to buy the movie regardless of the cover. We just want the movie. The target of these covers is the 20 something generation and the casual movie fan. "Hey, I liked that Skyfall. I wonder what these other Bond movies are like. Hey, that cover is slick! I'm gonna buy it!" I assume that's the thinking on the covers.
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I agree. Fox seem to be bad at this, just take a look at the Commando reissue. Goddam horrid .



Where the hell did they get that background from! The colours have no connection with what the film actually looks like.

The original, on the other hand, yes looks dated but its in keeping with the film. You can tell just from the title that its from the 80's :

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One thing is money. To use the original coverart, you have to pay.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:21 PM   #20
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It is also about marketing. The cover is not trying to sell the movie to current fans, they are already a captive market. Many casual consumers will simply buy a movie blind if they recognize a certain actor or actress on the cover, which is why bad photoshopped pictures are all the rage.
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