I've seen this before.... (MPEG2, single layer discs) - Blu-ray Forum

BTBuck1 · 07-01-2006, 10:21 PM

There is much to do over Sony's "supbpar" BR launch titles. Speculation over why it's SL mpeg2 and when DL mpeg2 fixed bit or VC-1/mpeg4 will be brought on tap.

I see alot of similar things between the soft launch of BR and that of the first and second Playstation game consoles.

Remeber the crap launch titles for those two systems? hardley a reason to run out and buy the systems...right? as big of a sony fan as I am, i waited nearly a year before diving into ps2, as I saw Dreamcast as superior still.
Well, it didn't take long for Sony to start cranking out titles and boy did they ever deliver. This IMO will be very similar. Sure these titles where rushed to launch. They got caught with their pants down with Toshiba Launching HDDVD and needed a quick answer so they threw some stuff out there as a distraction.

I think we'll see the real potential of Blu Ray come october, Sony isn't holding back their player & movies for no reason.

what do you guys think?

Psiweaver · 07-01-2006, 10:44 PM

Fully agree.

hometheaterhookup · 07-02-2006, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian@BBY

Got some nice TV's there, yet SONY audio is nowhere near par for what you're paying. And BOSE AM6IIIBLACK? Over priced. Since you work at Best Buy you should be buying what Magnolia has.

BTBuck1 · 07-02-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hometheaterhookup

Got some nice TV's there,

Thanks,

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Originally Posted by hometheatrehookup[/quote

yet SONY audio is nowhere near par for what you're paying.

Agreed thats why i went pioneer!

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Originally Posted by hometheatrehookup[/quote

And BOSE AM6IIIBLACK? Over priced.

It came with the house, i can't complain...sounds good and I didn't buy it.

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Originally Posted by hometheatrehookup[/quote

Since you work at Best Buy you should be buying what Magnolia has.

I agree, yet the Mag HiFi is about 30 minutes from here, so I don't always get down there. and when i bought all my speakers there where no Mag Hi Fi's around here

Dr Kain · 07-02-2006, 05:25 AM

I still see the DC as being superior to the PS2. It is a shame Sega jumped ship so early, it could have been one hell of a system.

Psiweaver · 07-03-2006, 05:47 PM

Piracy was way too easy on the dc thats what sunk it.

BTBuck1 · 07-18-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hometheaterhookup

And BOSE AM6IIIBLACK? Over priced.

I just found out I don't have the AM6. It's an older model AM-15 II, I had to buy a new bare wire/ to RCA cable for it and read the model # off the back. The wire wasnt making full contact on the (front right) channel and therefore limiting my experience. I called Bose and let them know the wire was faulty (part where you screw down speaker wire in place was stripped) they shipped me a new one, next day for FREE. This IMO is amazing customer service. Although I personally never bought this system and it's some 3 years old, they still took care of me. All i can say is WOW. I got the cable yesterday and took the time to re-splice all the wires and connect it all up, man "Behind Enemy Lines" in DTS and "Kong" sure did sound great. I just don't see where all the "Bose-Sucks" sentiment comes from. My setup sounds excellent (for movies) i don't listen to much music in the house.

Psiweaver · 07-18-2006, 11:58 PM

It comes from the fact that if compared back to back with a great system at a lower price the great system would destroy the bose for transient response midrange clarity deep bass etc.

Jodi · 07-19-2006, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

I still see the DC as being superior to the PS2. It is a shame Sega jumped ship so early, it could have been one hell of a system.

I still have a Dreamcast -- it's a great little system.
I still think "Soul Calibur" for Dreamcast blows any and all fighting games....on XBox......out of the water! (let alone the PS2)

Jodi

Psiweaver · 07-19-2006, 05:10 PM

Soul Calibur 2 and 3 are wonderful as well. I like power stone 1 and 2 for dc.

BTBuck1 · 07-19-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jodi

I still have a Dreamcast -- it's a great little system.
I still think "Soul Calibur" for Dreamcast blows any and all fighting games....on XBox......out of the water! (let alone the PS2)

Jodi

I dunno man, DOA4 is a visual orgasm. But i do enjoy the fight mechanics of SC a bit more. I like weapons based fighting games, or porjectiles ie. MVC2 / snk vs. capcom, streetfighter 2 series, etc.

Psiweaver · 07-28-2006, 06:34 PM

SC is a brilliant fighting game wiht tons of replayability tons of moves amazing combos and really really fun once you get it all down. ie guard impacting and parrying etc.

Applefiend · 07-29-2006, 05:55 PM

*cough* Virtua Fighter 5 on PS3 for the win.

What this reminds me off is the early days of DVD. I've been playing some on the early DVDs I got for one of the first DVD players on my DB-P1000, and it's all pretty messed up.

I had one MPEG1 encoded disk, no kidding. Double sided movies, get half way through the movie, have to stop and turn the disk over like an LP. Widescreen movies that have black bars top and bottom because nobody has a widescreen TV, movies with no menus at all, just the movie on the disk, 4:3 pan and scan versions of widescreen movies.

It's the early days of DVD all over again, kinda fun to be part of it... "I remember when Blu Rays were SL/MPEG2..."

Innerloop · 07-30-2006, 05:39 PM

I agree, we are really seeing that "bleeding edge" early software now, and its just as hit-and-miss as early DVD software, but people forget that so quickly.

I remember how excited I was to buy the first "RDSL" (Reverse-Spiral Dual Layer) disc of Terminator 2 when it came out, that was the first time a movie was able to use the whole whopping 9gb without having to flip the disc over. It was very exciting to see the hitch of the layer change

Then the whole rollout of DTS, and the big drama of why Spielberg wouldn't let his movies be released without DTS. Good fun.

If anything these discs (BD) seem to be maturing more quickly than the first DVDs.

Innerloop · 07-30-2006, 05:40 PM

What was the MPEG1 disc? I never even realized MPEG1 was part of the DVD specification! That's a great collector's item.

Applefiend · 07-30-2006, 07:05 PM

Blue Velvet! Looks like hell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd

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The specifications for video files on a DVD can be any of the following:
Up to 9.8 Mbit/s (9800 kbit/s) MPEG-2 video
Up to 1.856 Mbit/s (1856 kbit/s) MPEG-1 video

Sold it on when I was broke....!

07-01-2006, 10:21 PM	#1
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	I've seen this before.... (MPEG2, single layer discs) There is much to do over Sony's "supbpar" BR launch titles. Speculation over why it's SL mpeg2 and when DL mpeg2 fixed bit or VC-1/mpeg4 will be brought on tap. I see alot of similar things between the soft launch of BR and that of the first and second Playstation game consoles. Remeber the crap launch titles for those two systems? hardley a reason to run out and buy the systems...right? as big of a sony fan as I am, i waited nearly a year before diving into ps2, as I saw Dreamcast as superior still. Well, it didn't take long for Sony to start cranking out titles and boy did they ever deliver. This IMO will be very similar. Sure these titles where rushed to launch. They got caught with their pants down with Toshiba Launching HDDVD and needed a quick answer so they threw some stuff out there as a distraction. I think we'll see the real potential of Blu Ray come october, Sony isn't holding back their player & movies for no reason. what do you guys think?

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07-01-2006, 10:44 PM	#2
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	Fully agree.

07-02-2006, 05:25 AM	#5
Dr Kain Banned Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Denver CO	I still see the DC as being superior to the PS2. It is a shame Sega jumped ship so early, it could have been one hell of a system.

07-03-2006, 05:47 PM	#6
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	Piracy was way too easy on the dc thats what sunk it.

07-18-2006, 11:58 PM	#8
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	It comes from the fact that if compared back to back with a great system at a lower price the great system would destroy the bose for transient response midrange clarity deep bass etc.

07-19-2006, 05:10 PM	#10
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	Soul Calibur 2 and 3 are wonderful as well. I like power stone 1 and 2 for dc.

07-28-2006, 06:34 PM	#12
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	SC is a brilliant fighting game wiht tons of replayability tons of moves amazing combos and really really fun once you get it all down. ie guard impacting and parrying etc.

07-29-2006, 05:55 PM	#13
Applefiend Active Member Member since:Jul 2006	cough Virtua Fighter 5 on PS3 for the win. What this reminds me off is the early days of DVD. I've been playing some on the early DVDs I got for one of the first DVD players on my DB-P1000, and it's all pretty messed up. I had one MPEG1 encoded disk, no kidding. Double sided movies, get half way through the movie, have to stop and turn the disk over like an LP. Widescreen movies that have black bars top and bottom because nobody has a widescreen TV, movies with no menus at all, just the movie on the disk, 4:3 pan and scan versions of widescreen movies. It's the early days of DVD all over again, kinda fun to be part of it... "I remember when Blu Rays were SL/MPEG2..."

07-30-2006, 05:39 PM	#14
Innerloop Member Member since:Jul 2006	I agree, we are really seeing that "bleeding edge" early software now, and its just as hit-and-miss as early DVD software, but people forget that so quickly. I remember how excited I was to buy the first "RDSL" (Reverse-Spiral Dual Layer) disc of Terminator 2 when it came out, that was the first time a movie was able to use the whole whopping 9gb without having to flip the disc over. It was very exciting to see the hitch of the layer change Then the whole rollout of DTS, and the big drama of why Spielberg wouldn't let his movies be released without DTS. Good fun. If anything these discs (BD) seem to be maturing more quickly than the first DVDs.

07-30-2006, 05:40 PM	#15
Innerloop Member Member since:Jul 2006	What was the MPEG1 disc? I never even realized MPEG1 was part of the DVD specification! That's a great collector's item.

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