Universal confirms "no plans to support Blu-ray" - Blu-ray Forum

mmmhome · 11-05-2007, 12:25 PM

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/ne...-blu-ray.phtml

Terjyn · 11-05-2007, 12:27 PM

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Extensive efforts were made to find a solution in the DVD Forum and avoid the situation we see today, but unfortunately that didn’t happen. The DVD Forum chose the HD DVD specification and as a result, Sony and its partners decided to make a go of it with Blu-ray.

This guy is such a lying bastard it makes me sick. Very nice twist on what really happened though.

Bullseye · 11-05-2007, 12:28 PM

If WB goes BD exclusive he will be whistling a different tune.

zed0118 · 11-05-2007, 12:30 PM

"What’s important is that HD DVD owns the lead in dedicated CE player sales and maintains a 4:1 software attach rate over Blu-ray, meaning people are purchasing four times more HD DVD titles per HD DVD player than Blu-ray. Standalone players for HD DVD will be as low as $199 this holiday shopping season - maintaining HD DVD’s clear cost advantage."

This is complete and utter nonsense.

jsb_hburg · 11-05-2007, 12:31 PM

Well, what if the BDA renamed the format to Green-ray just for this week?

tiger roach · 11-05-2007, 12:33 PM

This kind of thing will just make it that much more humiliating for them when they eventually have to start selling Blu-rays.

And that goes double for Paramount.

maximus2323 · 11-05-2007, 12:35 PM

Can anyone fill me on the truth.

DJeffries · 11-05-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by zed0118

"What’s important is that HD DVD owns the lead in dedicated CE player sales and maintains a 4:1 software attach rate over Blu-ray, meaning people are purchasing four times more HD DVD titles per HD DVD player than Blu-ray. Standalone players for HD DVD will be as low as $199 this holiday shopping season - maintaining HD DVD’s clear cost advantage."

This is complete and utter nonsense.

This is the "New Math" here kept hearing about in the U.S. school systems. 1 + 1 is no longer = 2

.

Leopold BUTTERS · 11-05-2007, 12:40 PM

Well, this is fine then, because since they don't count the ps3 as a BD player, and we have twice as many movies sold with less BD stand alones that means the BD attach rate is 10:1

jedisinclair · 11-05-2007, 12:45 PM

BUTTERS: You alone could end this format war! Just use your imagination! Sorry, couldn't help it. Imaginationland trilogy was hilarious!!!

Grubert · 11-05-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Graffeo

The DVD Forum chose the HD DVD specification and as a result, Sony and its partners decided to make a go of it with Blu-ray.

Of course, we all know that's not at all what happened.

Blu-ray was announced in early 2002 and never submitted to the DVD Forum, which adopted HD DVD (then called "HD-DVD" with a hyphen) in November 2003.

Leopold BUTTERS · 11-05-2007, 12:47 PM

Santa!! no wait, Sony! Sony! No more HD DVD!

Tru-way · 11-05-2007, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zed0118

"What’s important is that HD DVD owns the lead in dedicated CE player sales and maintains a 4:1 software attach rate over Blu-ray, meaning people are purchasing four times more HD DVD titles per HD DVD player than Blu-ray. Standalone players for HD DVD will be as low as $199 this holiday shopping season - maintaining HD DVD’s clear cost advantage."

This is complete and utter nonsense.

Universal is as dellusional as the HD duds, wow this is sad.

BluStar88 · 11-05-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Leopold BUTTERS

Well, this is fine then, because since they don't count the ps3 as a BD player, and we have twice as many movies sold with less BD stand alones that means the BD attach rate is 10:1

I like your math much better.

Serously though I understandt that universal has to toe the company line until something is officially anounced but i haven't heard a less acurate more confusing sentance from anyone on any subject in a hell of a long time. HD-DUD... with people like these as spokesman.. you wonder what the engineers are like... oh that's right they couldn't make a good product to begin with... i guess idocracy.. begets idocracy...

BTW- If i remember the story right it was toshiba that pulled out and went against industry consensus on this war not BD or sony.

ikbradley · 11-05-2007, 12:50 PM

This was a shitty article by some fanboy throwing softball questions. Graffeo should have been asked in response to the 4:1 attachment ratio, if he is concerned that there is still a concern about the HD-DVD 1:2 sales ratio. How about that consumers are not adapting at all, and that manufactures don't release any numbers concerning stand-alone consoles. What about the failure of the duel DVD and HD DVD disc?

Seriously, the article is a waste of time and space. Next time the interviewer should prep a little better. What that article represents is just another piece of FUD for uneducated fanboys of either format to speculate about.

Terjyn · 11-05-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Grubert

Of course, we all know that's not at all what happened.

Blu-ray was announced in early 2002 and never submitted to the DVD Forum, which adopted HD DVD (then called "HD-DVD" with a hyphen) in November 2003.

Don't forget to mention the part that the Blu-Ray group went to Toshiba/DVD forum and asked them to join them, but they refused because they didn't want to dilute their royalties for every next gen disc sold.

Zaphod · 11-05-2007, 01:03 PM

I think Ken Graffeo just likes to hear himself talk...

It's funny that some studio is so far against a format when their studio itself is not in the best financial shape. Thier recent releases have been hit or miss, more so on the miss side, and all they have that they can work with is their past catalog titles...and we're talking about ones in the early 2000's and 1990's. In the past 3-5 years they haven't have had any real "blockbusters", with the exception of the Bourne series.

Blu-Style · 11-05-2007, 01:08 PM

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HD DVD allows us to provide the type of quality and truly next generation experiences we need to get consumers to migrate from DVD.

Yeah right,.... only HDDVD makes it possible...

All about Warner now!!!

if they come Blu, we won...

The Other Hddvd Studios can kiss my ass, and feed it with candy... because they have to come Blu then (^_^)

iceman · 11-05-2007, 01:09 PM

Amazing that the executive vice president of Universal "doesn't know better" and shame on pocket-lint.co.uk for publishing revisionist history.

Blu-ray was announced long before the DVD forum adopted HD-DVD/AOD. Also, Blu-ray was never submitted to the DVD forum for consideration, as the companies that support Blu-ray felt it was significantly different from DVD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Graffeo

What’s important is that HD DVD owns the lead in dedicated CE player sales and maintains a 4:1 software attach rate over Blu-ray, meaning people are purchasing four times more HD DVD titles per HD DVD player than Blu-ray.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Graffeo

The PS3 simply hasn’t been the gamer changer Sony had hoped it would be.

So how do you explain your previously amazingly spinned quote? Those two statements contradict each other. If Blu-ray has a 2:1 lead in total software sales, either standalones are selling a lot of software or PS3 is selling a lot of software.

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Originally Posted by Ken Graffeo regarding Paramount

They had a chance to test both formats and they chose HD DVD due to the consistent experience and value proposition it offers consumers.

Paramount technicians preferred Blu-ray, but the execs were convinced to $upport HD-DVD.

Shame on you Ken

Slapper · 11-05-2007, 01:10 PM

It truly is amazing that HD-DVD has higher player sales than Blu-ray while having a higher attach rate, yet the format's software sales are somehow only half of Blu-ray software sales.

Gotta love their math. I really wish someone in the media would "call them out" on this BS they keep spewing...

11-05-2007, 12:25 PM	#1
mmmhome Active Member Member since:Oct 2003 Location:Germany	Universal confirms "no plans to support Blu-ray" http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/ne...-blu-ray.phtml

11-05-2007, 01:03 PM	#17
Zaphod Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2007 Location:A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. Blu-ray collection:350 Trading Score:4	I think Ken Graffeo just likes to hear himself talk... It's funny that some studio is so far against a format when their studio itself is not in the best financial shape. Thier recent releases have been hit or miss, more so on the miss side, and all they have that they can work with is their past catalog titles...and we're talking about ones in the early 2000's and 1990's. In the past 3-5 years they haven't have had any real "blockbusters", with the exception of the Bourne series. Last edited by Zaphod; 11-05-2007 at 01:07 PM.

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11-05-2007, 12:28 PM	#3
Bullseye Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Ireland Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:760 Blu-ray reviews: 44	If WB goes BD exclusive he will be whistling a different tune.

11-05-2007, 12:30 PM	#4
zed0118 Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	"What’s important is that HD DVD owns the lead in dedicated CE player sales and maintains a 4:1 software attach rate over Blu-ray, meaning people are purchasing four times more HD DVD titles per HD DVD player than Blu-ray. Standalone players for HD DVD will be as low as $199 this holiday shopping season - maintaining HD DVD’s clear cost advantage." This is complete and utter nonsense.

11-05-2007, 12:31 PM	#5
jsb_hburg Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Camp Hill, PA	Well, what if the BDA renamed the format to Green-ray just for this week?

11-05-2007, 12:33 PM	#6
tiger roach Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:141 Blu-ray reviews:1	This kind of thing will just make it that much more humiliating for them when they eventually have to start selling Blu-rays. And that goes double for Paramount.

11-05-2007, 12:35 PM	#7
maximus2323 Active Member Member since:Dec 2006	Can anyone fill me on the truth.

11-05-2007, 12:40 PM	#9
Leopold BUTTERS Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:AB,Canada Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	Well, this is fine then, because since they don't count the ps3 as a BD player, and we have twice as many movies sold with less BD stand alones that means the BD attach rate is 10:1

11-05-2007, 12:45 PM	#10
jedisinclair Senior Member Member since:Nov 2006 Blu-ray collection:42 Trading Score:3	BUTTERS: You alone could end this format war! Just use your imagination! Sorry, couldn't help it. Imaginationland trilogy was hilarious!!!

11-05-2007, 12:47 PM	#12
Leopold BUTTERS Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:AB,Canada Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	Santa!! no wait, Sony! Sony! No more HD DVD!

11-05-2007, 12:50 PM	#15
ikbradley Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007	This was a shitty article by some fanboy throwing softball questions. Graffeo should have been asked in response to the 4:1 attachment ratio, if he is concerned that there is still a concern about the HD-DVD 1:2 sales ratio. How about that consumers are not adapting at all, and that manufactures don't release any numbers concerning stand-alone consoles. What about the failure of the duel DVD and HD DVD disc? Seriously, the article is a waste of time and space. Next time the interviewer should prep a little better. What that article represents is just another piece of FUD for uneducated fanboys of either format to speculate about.

11-05-2007, 01:10 PM	#20
Slapper Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:I live in a pineapple under the sea... Blu-ray collection:277	It truly is amazing that HD-DVD has higher player sales than Blu-ray while having a higher attach rate, yet the format's software sales are somehow only half of Blu-ray software sales. Gotta love their math. I really wish someone in the media would "call them out" on this BS they keep spewing...

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