Disney Frozen Points

[vanlutz]

I found this kind of ridiculous. So, I thought I'd post about it.

I have every Disney 3D flick. So, I have thousands of Disney reward points. OF course the DVD you get in a set and the points themselves add cost to the consumer. I'd rather pay $10 (US) then what I have to pay for the all these extras that mean nothing to me.

Frozen for some reason has never been released in 3D in the US. Since I see they've released a new Beauty and the Beast in the UK I bought both from Amazon UK. They've sent me Frozen and I get points but only in the UK. However I can't become a UK rewards member because I don't live in the UK.

I wrote Disney Rewards and they were kind enough to give me 150 points. But, every time they've responded with "You need to buy US product to receive US points". Yet no one has answered the question "How do you buy something that doesn't exist?"

I would gladly have bought the US version in 3D. Unfortunately it was never released in 3D in the US. It sucks they chose to not give the US consumer the 3D version.

[Andy2992]

Originally Posted by vanlutz

I found this kind of ridiculous. So, I thought I'd post about it.

I have every Disney 3D flick. So, I have thousands of Disney reward points. OF course the DVD you get in a set and the points themselves add cost to the consumer. I'd rather pay $10 (US) then what I have to pay for the all these extras that mean nothing to me.

Frozen for some reason has never been released in 3D in the US. Since I see they've released a new Beauty and the Beast in the UK I bought both from Amazon UK. They've sent me Frozen and I get points but only in the UK. However I can't become a UK rewards member because I don't live in the UK.

I wrote Disney Rewards and they were kind enough to give me 150 points. But, every time they've responded with "You need to buy US product to receive US points". Yet no one has answered the question "How do you buy something that doesn't exist?"

I would gladly have bought the US version in 3D. Unfortunately it was never released in 3D in the US. It sucks they chose to not give the US consumer the 3D version.

How do you think us in the UK feel when we import US Disney releases and can't use the American points?

[vanlutz]

Are there Disney titles that do not have UK releases?

Any ideas why they didn't release Frozen in 3D in the US? It's not like it's different distributors. It's such a rip.

If you have magic point numbers I'll trade you my Frozen eventually I'll have Beauty & the Beast.

[DaveSimonH]

Originally Posted by vanlutz

Are there Disney titles that do not have UK releases?

Any ideas why they didn't release Frozen in 3D in the US? It's not like it's different distributors. It's such a rip.

If you have magic point numbers I'll trade you my Frozen eventually I'll have Beauty & the Beast.

Standard blu-ray US titles with no UK release;

Fun and Fancy Free
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
The Great Mouse Detective
The Little Mermaid (has UK release, but apparently won't ever get scene swap fix)
The Rescuers Down Under
Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Treasure Planet
Home on the Range
Winnie the Pooh


I think there are a few US titles that we got first, like Aladdin. However there's no question that the US won't at least get a 2D release, if eventually. Unfortunately UK customers arent as lucky. So most will have to either stick with DVD or import from US etc.

[vanlutz]

Some of those are fairly new. So, perhaps eventually they'll be released.

I'll wait for the US release of Aladdin to buy that.

I would really just love to know the thought process as to why certain movies aren't released or in the case of Frozen it was in theatres in 3D, so why not release it in 3D in the country it originated from. It can't be money. Because we're buying it from England. So, there's certainly a market. It's messed up.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by vanlutz

I would really just love to know the thought process as to why certain movies aren't released or in the case of Frozen it was in theatres in 3D, so why not release it in 3D in the country it originated from. It can't be money. Because we're buying it from England. So, there's certainly a market. It's messed up.

I don't think anyone knows the thought process behind Disney's decision. Speculation was they were waiting for this Christmas to release a lavish 3D special edition but that hasn't yet been announced, just rumoured. I have doubts whether any territory will get the complete Classic collection on BD. You just have to be thankful that some are out and region free!

[David M]

Originally Posted by vanlutz

I found this kind of ridiculous. So, I thought I'd post about it.

I have every Disney 3D flick. So, I have thousands of Disney reward points. OF course the DVD you get in a set and the points themselves add cost to the consumer. I'd rather pay $10 (US) then what I have to pay for the all these extras that mean nothing to me.

Frozen for some reason has never been released in 3D in the US. Since I see they've released a new Beauty and the Beast in the UK I bought both from Amazon UK. They've sent me Frozen and I get points but only in the UK. However I can't become a UK rewards member because I don't live in the UK.

I wrote Disney Rewards and they were kind enough to give me 150 points. But, every time they've responded with "You need to buy US product to receive US points". Yet no one has answered the question "How do you buy something that doesn't exist?"

I would gladly have bought the US version in 3D. Unfortunately it was never released in 3D in the US. It sucks they chose to not give the US consumer the 3D version.

If this is your first introduction to last-century territory-based thinking, then you're a lucky guy.

Spare a though for the people outside the US who can't look at movie-centric web sites for more than 5-10 minutes without seeing "This video is not available outside the US".

[vanlutz]

Originally Posted by Lyris

If this is your first introduction to last-century territory-based thinking, then you're a lucky guy.

Spare a though for the people outside the US who can't look at movie-centric web sites for more than 5-10 minutes without seeing "This video is not available outside the US".

The people outside the US who can't get movies because they're only available in the US, are probably looking for US movies. I would doubt that foreign films would only be available in the US and not in their country of origin.

Frozen is a Disney movie that was not released in the US in 3D. But, it was released to the European market. From any kind of business stand point that doesn't make any sense.

I bought the South Korean Charlie Chaplin Collection because many of those movies aren't available in the US, and the ones that are, are very expensive.

The US companies are doing a horrendous job of releasing cult and classics to Blu-ray. But, Disney isn't. They're releasing everything. It's just beyond weird that Frozen 3D is not one of them.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by vanlutz

The people outside the US who can't get movies because they're only available in the US, are probably looking for US movies. I would doubt that foreign films would only be available in the US and not in their country of origin.

You've just opened Pandora's Box, would you like us to start listing British films available in the US but not the UK? We can do if you'd like, I'll start...

Following (1998)
Hunger (2008)
Made in Dagenham (2010)
Thunderbirds are Go (1966)
Thunderbird 6 (1968)

[vanlutz]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

You've just opened Pandora's Box, would you like us to start listing British films available in the US but not the UK? We can do if you'd like, I'll start...

Following (1998)
Hunger (2008)
Made in Dagenham (2010)
Thunderbirds are Go (1966)
Thunderbird 6 (1968)

Here's the thing. The US is the market that EVERYONE wants to break. It's where they'll make the most amount of money. So, I'm not completely shocked that these titles are made available in the US first. If not the only place they'll be released.

What movie was as blockbuster as Frozen and released in the US and not in their own country? It's hard to put a film at the same level of success as Frozen.

Also Frozen is not a classic movie. It was released late 2013 and probably hit normal theatres this year. It's in the top five of biggest money makers Disney has ever produced. It's been a huge draw at Disneyworld. They've transformed Hollywood Studios into Frozen world, with parades, shows and exhibits based on this movie.

Yet for some reason they've decided to not give the biggest market the version they released to theatres. But, gave it to every other market.

This is tad amount to Lucas releasing the blu ray Star Wars Saga to the European market and not releasing it to the US.

Companies jump when the market is hot. Frozen is HOT.

I will admit that the list you started is strange if they weren't released in their country of origin. But, it's probably more on the process of creating a blu ray and release then it is on the actual market.

Frozen is a distinct choice by Disney (BVD) to hold back the 3D version of one of their most popular movies ever. For the life of me that makes no sense. Some one posted that they might be planning a big Christmas set. Which could be true. But, there is no official word on it, and it's closing in on the Christmas season.

I held off purchasing the blu ray edition because I waited for the 3D which hasn't come. I would be pissed beyond belief if I bought the blu ray version and then had to rebuy it because they decided a year later to release it in the US in 3D. That's something extremely Disney, soak every penny out of the consumer as possible.

[Andy2992]

Originally Posted by vanlutz

Here's the thing. The US is the market that EVERYONE wants to break. It's where they'll make the most amount of money. So, I'm not completely shocked that these titles are made available in the US first. If not the only place they'll be released.

What movie was as blockbuster as Frozen and released in the US and not in their own country? It's hard to put a film at the same level of success as Frozen.

Also Frozen is not a classic movie. It was released late 2013 and probably hit normal theatres this year. It's in the top five of biggest money makers Disney has ever produced. It's been a huge draw at Disneyworld. They've transformed Hollywood Studios into Frozen world, with parades, shows and exhibits based on this movie.

Yet for some reason they've decided to not give the biggest market the version they released to theatres. But, gave it to every other market.

This is tad amount to Lucas releasing the blu ray Star Wars Saga to the European market and not releasing it to the US.

Companies jump when the market is hot. Frozen is HOT.

I will admit that the list you started is strange if they weren't released in their country of origin. But, it's probably more on the process of creating a blu ray and release then it is on the actual market.

Frozen is a distinct choice by Disney (BVD) to hold back the 3D version of one of their most popular movies ever. For the life of me that makes no sense. Some one posted that they might be planning a big Christmas set. Which could be true. But, there is no official word on it, and it's closing in on the Christmas season.

I held off purchasing the blu ray edition because I waited for the 3D which hasn't come. I would be pissed beyond belief if I bought the blu ray version and then had to rebuy it because they decided a year later to release it in the US in 3D. That's something extremely Disney, soak every penny out of the consumer as possible.

Frozen 3D IS coming to the US. However Disney are holding it back until sales of Frozen stuff drops so they can use it to revive interest and boost sales again. It will be released in a big 'Coronation Edition' to coincide with the coronation of Anna and Elsa in to the Disney Princess line. It was due for release this November but due to the still massive popularity of Frozen it has been pushed back until the popularity subsides a bit but it will come. Just wait.

[vanlutz]

Originally Posted by Andy2992

Frozen 3D IS coming to the US. However Disney are holding it back until sales of Frozen stuff drops so they can use it to revive interest and boost sales again. It will be released in a big 'Coronation Edition' to coincide with the coronation of Anna and Elsa in to the Disney Princess line. It was due for release this November but due to the still massive popularity of Frozen it has been pushed back until the popularity subsides a bit but it will come. Just wait.

You answered the question that the Disney people could or would not answer. Thank You.

Since I wanted to own it when it was first released, I bought a 3D copy off e-bay. Which turned out to be bootleg. Needless to say they gave me a refund.

Since I saw the bootleg, there was no rush to purchase the true copy. But, till you just answered my question I had no idea when 3D was coming to the US, I bought the UK version. Which works perfectly. So, they can release a US version whenever they want, I no longer need it.

Thanks again.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by vanlutz

Here's the thing. The US is the market that EVERYONE wants to break. It's where they'll make the most amount of money. So, I'm not completely shocked that these titles are made available in the US first. If not the only place they'll be released.

What movie was as blockbuster as Frozen and released in the US and not in their own country? It's hard to put a film at the same level of success as Frozen.

Well, you said that you didn't think there'd be foreign films that were released in the US but not their country of origin.

The UK doesn't make blockbusters without support from the US, nobody in the UK has that kind of money (except Ingenious Media, but they just secretly co-finance Fox films). The last big British blockbuster was Gravity, and even that provoked massive debates as to whether it was British or not. (It met British government criteria for tax funding, so was deemed British by the BFI and the BAFTAs.)

[vanlutz]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

Well, you said that you didn't think there'd be foreign films that were released in the US but not their country of origin.

The UK doesn't make blockbusters without support from the US, nobody in the UK has that kind of money (except Ingenious Media, but they just secretly co-finance Fox films). The last big British blockbuster was Gravity, and even that provoked massive debates as to whether it was British or not. (It met British government criteria for tax funding, so was deemed British by the BFI and the BAFTAs.)

Yes, but I didn't mean a few mildly successful films or cult movies.

If you wrote that Monty Python or Benny Hill in England or perhaps Amelie in France or any of the great Japanese or Korean horror movies not being available in their countries would be similar.

I received the lamest response from Disney Movies regarding Frozen. They told me to get it from VUDU. I guess they didn't read the part of my e-mail stating that I bought it from the UK.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by vanlutz

Yes, but I didn't mean a few mildly successful films or cult movies.

If you wrote that Monty Python or Benny Hill in England or perhaps Amelie in France or any of the great Japanese or Korean horror movies not being available in their countries would be similar.

I received the lamest response from Disney Movies regarding Frozen. They told me to get it from VUDU. I guess they didn't read the part of my e-mail stating that I bought it from the UK.

Or they chose to ignore it, because in their opinion you shouldn't have imported it and you are screwing with the Matrix. (Although Disney UK did tell us to import Marvel's The Avengers (or Marvel Avengers Assemble as it was called over here, because apparently we're intelligent enough to remember the other Avengers, and nobody else is) after they completely buggered up that release, with no intention of fixing it.)