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Old 10-17-2014, 06:08 AM   #1
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If this is your first introduction to last-century territory-based thinking, then you're a lucky guy.

Spare a though for the people outside the US who can't look at movie-centric web sites for more than 5-10 minutes without seeing "This video is not available outside the US".
The people outside the US who can't get movies because they're only available in the US, are probably looking for US movies. I would doubt that foreign films would only be available in the US and not in their country of origin.

Frozen is a Disney movie that was not released in the US in 3D. But, it was released to the European market. From any kind of business stand point that doesn't make any sense.

I bought the South Korean Charlie Chaplin Collection because many of those movies aren't available in the US, and the ones that are, are very expensive.

The US companies are doing a horrendous job of releasing cult and classics to Blu-ray. But, Disney isn't. They're releasing everything. It's just beyond weird that Frozen 3D is not one of them.
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The people outside the US who can't get movies because they're only available in the US, are probably looking for US movies. I would doubt that foreign films would only be available in the US and not in their country of origin.
You've just opened Pandora's Box, would you like us to start listing British films available in the US but not the UK? We can do if you'd like, I'll start...

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Old 10-17-2014, 03:53 PM   #3
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You've just opened Pandora's Box, would you like us to start listing British films available in the US but not the UK? We can do if you'd like, I'll start...

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Here's the thing. The US is the market that EVERYONE wants to break. It's where they'll make the most amount of money. So, I'm not completely shocked that these titles are made available in the US first. If not the only place they'll be released.

What movie was as blockbuster as Frozen and released in the US and not in their own country? It's hard to put a film at the same level of success as Frozen.

Also Frozen is not a classic movie. It was released late 2013 and probably hit normal theatres this year. It's in the top five of biggest money makers Disney has ever produced. It's been a huge draw at Disneyworld. They've transformed Hollywood Studios into Frozen world, with parades, shows and exhibits based on this movie.

Yet for some reason they've decided to not give the biggest market the version they released to theatres. But, gave it to every other market.

This is tad amount to Lucas releasing the blu ray Star Wars Saga to the European market and not releasing it to the US.

Companies jump when the market is hot. Frozen is HOT.

I will admit that the list you started is strange if they weren't released in their country of origin. But, it's probably more on the process of creating a blu ray and release then it is on the actual market.

Frozen is a distinct choice by Disney (BVD) to hold back the 3D version of one of their most popular movies ever. For the life of me that makes no sense. Some one posted that they might be planning a big Christmas set. Which could be true. But, there is no official word on it, and it's closing in on the Christmas season.

I held off purchasing the blu ray edition because I waited for the 3D which hasn't come. I would be pissed beyond belief if I bought the blu ray version and then had to rebuy it because they decided a year later to release it in the US in 3D. That's something extremely Disney, soak every penny out of the consumer as possible.
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Old 10-17-2014, 05:02 PM   #4
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Here's the thing. The US is the market that EVERYONE wants to break. It's where they'll make the most amount of money. So, I'm not completely shocked that these titles are made available in the US first. If not the only place they'll be released.

What movie was as blockbuster as Frozen and released in the US and not in their own country? It's hard to put a film at the same level of success as Frozen.

Also Frozen is not a classic movie. It was released late 2013 and probably hit normal theatres this year. It's in the top five of biggest money makers Disney has ever produced. It's been a huge draw at Disneyworld. They've transformed Hollywood Studios into Frozen world, with parades, shows and exhibits based on this movie.

Yet for some reason they've decided to not give the biggest market the version they released to theatres. But, gave it to every other market.

This is tad amount to Lucas releasing the blu ray Star Wars Saga to the European market and not releasing it to the US.

Companies jump when the market is hot. Frozen is HOT.

I will admit that the list you started is strange if they weren't released in their country of origin. But, it's probably more on the process of creating a blu ray and release then it is on the actual market.

Frozen is a distinct choice by Disney (BVD) to hold back the 3D version of one of their most popular movies ever. For the life of me that makes no sense. Some one posted that they might be planning a big Christmas set. Which could be true. But, there is no official word on it, and it's closing in on the Christmas season.

I held off purchasing the blu ray edition because I waited for the 3D which hasn't come. I would be pissed beyond belief if I bought the blu ray version and then had to rebuy it because they decided a year later to release it in the US in 3D. That's something extremely Disney, soak every penny out of the consumer as possible.
Frozen 3D IS coming to the US. However Disney are holding it back until sales of Frozen stuff drops so they can use it to revive interest and boost sales again. It will be released in a big 'Coronation Edition' to coincide with the coronation of Anna and Elsa in to the Disney Princess line. It was due for release this November but due to the still massive popularity of Frozen it has been pushed back until the popularity subsides a bit but it will come. Just wait.
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Frozen 3D IS coming to the US. However Disney are holding it back until sales of Frozen stuff drops so they can use it to revive interest and boost sales again. It will be released in a big 'Coronation Edition' to coincide with the coronation of Anna and Elsa in to the Disney Princess line. It was due for release this November but due to the still massive popularity of Frozen it has been pushed back until the popularity subsides a bit but it will come. Just wait.
You answered the question that the Disney people could or would not answer. Thank You.

Since I wanted to own it when it was first released, I bought a 3D copy off e-bay. Which turned out to be bootleg. Needless to say they gave me a refund.

Since I saw the bootleg, there was no rush to purchase the true copy. But, till you just answered my question I had no idea when 3D was coming to the US, I bought the UK version. Which works perfectly. So, they can release a US version whenever they want, I no longer need it.

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Here's the thing. The US is the market that EVERYONE wants to break. It's where they'll make the most amount of money. So, I'm not completely shocked that these titles are made available in the US first. If not the only place they'll be released.

What movie was as blockbuster as Frozen and released in the US and not in their own country? It's hard to put a film at the same level of success as Frozen.
Well, you said that you didn't think there'd be foreign films that were released in the US but not their country of origin.

The UK doesn't make blockbusters without support from the US, nobody in the UK has that kind of money (except Ingenious Media, but they just secretly co-finance Fox films). The last big British blockbuster was Gravity, and even that provoked massive debates as to whether it was British or not. (It met British government criteria for tax funding, so was deemed British by the BFI and the BAFTAs.)
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Well, you said that you didn't think there'd be foreign films that were released in the US but not their country of origin.

The UK doesn't make blockbusters without support from the US, nobody in the UK has that kind of money (except Ingenious Media, but they just secretly co-finance Fox films). The last big British blockbuster was Gravity, and even that provoked massive debates as to whether it was British or not. (It met British government criteria for tax funding, so was deemed British by the BFI and the BAFTAs.)
Yes, but I didn't mean a few mildly successful films or cult movies.

If you wrote that Monty Python or Benny Hill in England or perhaps Amelie in France or any of the great Japanese or Korean horror movies not being available in their countries would be similar.

I received the lamest response from Disney Movies regarding Frozen. They told me to get it from VUDU. I guess they didn't read the part of my e-mail stating that I bought it from the UK.
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Yes, but I didn't mean a few mildly successful films or cult movies.

If you wrote that Monty Python or Benny Hill in England or perhaps Amelie in France or any of the great Japanese or Korean horror movies not being available in their countries would be similar.

I received the lamest response from Disney Movies regarding Frozen. They told me to get it from VUDU. I guess they didn't read the part of my e-mail stating that I bought it from the UK.
Or they chose to ignore it, because in their opinion you shouldn't have imported it and you are screwing with the Matrix. (Although Disney UK did tell us to import Marvel's The Avengers (or Marvel Avengers Assemble as it was called over here, because apparently we're intelligent enough to remember the other Avengers, and nobody else is) after they completely buggered up that release, with no intention of fixing it.)
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