Movies I'm afraid to buy on 3D blu-ray - Blu-ray Forum

Frank@Chicago · 06-02-2015, 06:34 PM

There's a couple of movies I've been thinking about getting in 3D, but I'm worried about cost vs. value.

John Carter: This is a biggie. I really want to see and own this movie, but the 3D version typically runs in the mid $20's used on EBay. Even worse, I just found a new 2-disc BD with slip (!) at my Wal-Mart. I bought it for $14.97 until I decide what to do. I've heard the 3D version isn't that good.

Nightmare before Christmas: Another biggie. Disney put a lot of time in effort into this conversion and even did some digital touchups on the film. However, the 3D version is fairly expensive on EBay running in the high $30's and more. Reviews indicate the 3D and Disney's efforts here don't really payoff in a big way. My copy is the Skellington Head set on DVD, but the cost to upgrade here seems very steep.

Jack the Giant Slayer: Another biggie. My copy is a 2-disc BD with no slip from Black Friday. I got it for about $5. I've heard in this case the 3D is really nice and adds a lot to the movie. Funny how one version of a movie can be dirt cheap, while another version of the same movie can be so expensive. The 3D version is about $30 or more on EBay, most don't even have slips.

Tron Legacy: Almost forgot this one. My copy is a mint 2-disc BD with slip from release. Used 3D version typically runs in the mid $20's on EBay. As you guys may know, the 3D while good is only 'on' during some of the Net sequences. Not sure how I feel about rebuying the movie to watch something that's mostly in 2D (?) while wearing 3D glasses.

If anyone has any thoughts on the relative value of these 3D releases, please do share....Thanks.

levcore · 06-02-2015, 06:36 PM

All three are great in 3D IMO. I especially love John Carter and I always watch the 3D version, same goes for Jack the Giant Slayer, really good 3D in both. Nightmare Before Christmas is a bit more reserved but offers great 3D all the same.

BleedOrange11 · 06-02-2015, 06:41 PM

Definitely get Jack in 3D. It was shot native and story-boarded in 3D for the VFX to impact the story in some key moments.

John Carter looks decent in 3D but doesn't use it creatively. It's more like a 2D-style movie with okay depth relief. I enjoyed it but wouldn't recommend it to anyone who is critical of 3D. It probably won't change the experience much either way.

Nightmare is one of the worst looking early conversions I've seen. I'd never watch it in 3D again. Poorly constructed depth in every frame. Look for some SBS 3D screenshots or clips online if you need to satisfy your curiosity.

Blastcage · 06-02-2015, 06:50 PM

I've been trying to decide on Nightmare Before Christmas 3D as well. I don't own any copies of the movie, and I've heard meh reviews on the 3D in it.

bud_brigman · 06-02-2015, 06:52 PM

Jack the Giant Slayer has really good 3D, and its story actually kept my wife interested.

DuranFanWI · 06-02-2015, 07:08 PM

Not sure what you have for Disney Movie Rewards points, but you can pick up Jack Carter 3D for 2000 points or 1400 points plus s&p (the better deal); Tron Legacy 3D is priced the same as well.

Below is a link for all the 3D titles available thru DMR currently:

http://www.disneymovierewards.go.com...sort=pl&page=1

I'd agree with the prior posters' opinions on the three movies as well. I would add that Tron Legacy 3D has medium 3D overall, there's no in-your-face 3D but has some really good moments, especially with the light cycles.

Frank@Chicago · 06-02-2015, 07:26 PM

I did take a look at the Disney rewards site recently after someone mentioned getting Tron for free.

But the list of eligible BDs to earn points is so small, I have only three titles on that list and I'm not sure I have all the codes either (one was a used BD).

Funny thing is I have a lot of Disney products like Planes that seem to have codes in them, but the web site doesn't show those titles as eligible.

Maybe I should setup an account and just start feeding in the codes regardless...

DuranFanWI · 06-02-2015, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank@Chicago

I did take a look at the Disney rewards site recently after someone mentioned getting Tron for free.

But the list of eligible BDs to earn points is so small, I have only three titles on that list and I'm not sure I have all the codes either (one was a used BD).

Funny thing is I have a lot of Disney products like Planes that seem to have codes in them, but the web site doesn't show those titles as eligible.

Maybe I should setup an account and just start feeding in the codes regardless...

As long as you have a Disney DVD or Blu-Ray with the DMR code sheet and have an account set up, you should be able to enter the code onto their site and earn points (assuming they haven't been redeemed already). There's a huge variety of movies that come with the sheets, so I'd say set up your account and start entering in those codes!

BleedOrange11 · 06-02-2015, 07:44 PM

Tron: Legacy sparks a lot of different opinions on here because it's well-crafted 3D but in a very subtle way. I liked it but understandably not everyone will. The first 23 minutes and last 3 minutes are in 2D, while only The Grid is in 3D, intended to intensify the emotions of the hyper-real virtual world. Additional Grid scenes slightly expand aspect ratio and 3D depth for designated IMAX sequences. This is quite effective at creating the emotional experience the director was going for but at the same time, lessens its value as a 3D show.

It was shot native and well planned for in 3D and looks good. However the overall depth effect/parallax is not quite as strong as many would like, so faces and objects don't quite achieve the same roundness found in elite 3D movies like Avatar, Hugo, etc.

I'd recommend it but with an asterisk. It has strong creative merit but not elite depth. I wouldn't hesitate calling it better than 2D.

Frank@Chicago · 06-02-2015, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DuranFanWI

As long as you have a Disney DVD or Blu-Ray with the DMR code sheet and have an account set up, you should be able to enter the code onto their site and earn points (assuming they haven't been redeemed already). There's a huge variety of movies that come with the sheets, so I'd say set up your account and start entering in those codes!

Based on all my Disney DVDs and BDs, that should be a huge number of points.

As long as most haven't expired or something, I should be good to go...

infiniteCR · 06-02-2015, 08:11 PM

Jack and the Giant slayer is a worthwhile, excellent 3d presentation. Story is fun enough too.

The others are regrets for me

bud_brigman · 06-02-2015, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank@Chicago

Tron Legacy: Almost forgot this one. My copy is a mint 2-disc BD with slip from release. Used 3D version typically runs in the mid $20's on EBay. As you guys may know, the 3D while good is only 'on' during some of the Net sequences. Not sure how I feel about rebuying the movie to watch something that's mostly in 2D (?) while wearing 3D glasses.

If anyone has any thoughts on the relative value of these 3D releases, please do share....Thanks.

As BleedOrange11 said, this one has some varying opinions.

The 2-D only is right at the beginning. In my opinion, the 3D with the IMAX presentation is totally worth it. BUT -- I'm a huge TRON fan.

DB5 · 06-02-2015, 09:21 PM

If you can, do what DuranfanWI said and join DMR and use those points.
I have 3 of those movies you listed and have watched and liked them multiple times, the only one I don't have is a Nightmare before Xmas, I sold it as soon as I watched it and didn't care for it at all, we all have different tastes though.
Here's a link for it on DMR as it doesn't show up on their rewards.
http://www.disneymovierewards.go.com...-3dbdc-1068930

PS it has a beautiful slipcover

film11 · 06-02-2015, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by infiniteCR

Jack and the Giant slayer is a worthwhile, excellent 3d presentation. Story is fun enough too.

The others are regrets for me

For 3D, definitely skip NIGHTMARE (regrettably).

JACK THE GIANT KILLER is easily the best of the bunch for 3D. It got a lot of naysayers, bad reviews, and disappointing box office but I thought it was fun and entertaining. Saw it twice in 3D.

Frank@Chicago · 06-02-2015, 09:55 PM

Putting in my Disney codes now...

Got to 300 points with DVDs only, but that's kinda disappointing because at least 10 DVDs had the Movie Rewards Star in back corner.

I used to buy used at FYE so maybe that's why or maybe I threw them out, onward to BD where there should be more points to be had...

Zivouhr · 06-02-2015, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Nightmare is one of the worst looking early conversions I've seen. I'd never watch it in 3D again. Poorly constructed depth in every frame. Look for some SBS 3D screenshots or clips online if you need to satisfy your curiosity.

Agree. Nightmare BC 3D I saw in theaters when first released and the 3D was the only reason I went to see it again in theaters. It looked as close to 2D as 3D can get sadly. Very mild 3D, and very disappointed I spent my money on the 3D that day way back when. I think they were just learning about conversions back then.

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John Carter 3D, I enjoy that one a lot. Medium to strong 3D.
Giant Slayer 3D, really good 3D, medium with some strong 3D.
Tron Legacy 3D: Mostly mild 3D.
Nightmare 3D: Mild 3D.

Enjoy.

Frank@Chicago · 06-02-2015, 11:42 PM

That went pretty well, got to 3925 Disney Reward points with my BD credits!

I'm currently waiting for Cars 1&2 3D off EBay so that should put me over 4K.

At that point, I'll be able to get Tron Legacy 3D and John Carter 3D both for free.

Wow, talk about a Happy Ending. Cue the upbeat dance music people!

Quake1028 · 06-03-2015, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank@Chicago

That went pretty well, got to 3925 Disney Reward points with my BD credits!

I'm currently waiting for Cars 1&2 3D off EBay so that should put me over 4K.

At that point, I'll be able to get Tron Legacy 3D and John Carter 3D both for free.

Wow, talk about a Happy Ending. Cue the upbeat dance music people!

Do it now. 2800 points with $6.50 shipping is better than 4000 points. 1200 points on the open market are worth much more than $6.50. I just did the exact same thing, Tron and John Carter for 2800 points + S&P. Brave & A Christmas Carol are my next 3D acquisitions from them.

Wootini · 06-03-2015, 01:51 PM

Yeah, I was sad to read about the poor 3D on Nightmare Before Christmas. I watch it every Christmas, and last time I watched it, I noted how the camera angles should look really good in 3D, and became curious about the conversion. Disappointed to hear it's not good.

I was mildly disappointed in Tron Legacy, because the 3D was mostly depth, and it wasn't until the chase scene late in the movie where I really felt like the 3D engaged me viscerally. However, I also got that for free using the Disney points I'd been accruing. I just recently got enough points for the original Tron, too. It'll take me a while to build them back up again, but I figure I'll get John Carter that way, too. (I had originally gotten Tangled 3D for free... it's all I've ever used those points for -- free movies!)

bud_brigman · 06-03-2015, 02:34 PM

So, dumb question: When you use the Disney points, they basically send a retail package blu-ray to you, right? It's not like the Oz thing, where it's in an envelope, or sleeve ...

06-02-2015, 06:34 PM	#1
Frank@Chicago Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2013 Blu-ray reviews:1	Movies I'm afraid to buy on 3D blu-ray There's a couple of movies I've been thinking about getting in 3D, but I'm worried about cost vs. value. John Carter: This is a biggie. I really want to see and own this movie, but the 3D version typically runs in the mid $20's used on EBay. Even worse, I just found a new 2-disc BD with slip (!) at my Wal-Mart. I bought it for $14.97 until I decide what to do. I've heard the 3D version isn't that good. Nightmare before Christmas: Another biggie. Disney put a lot of time in effort into this conversion and even did some digital touchups on the film. However, the 3D version is fairly expensive on EBay running in the high $30's and more. Reviews indicate the 3D and Disney's efforts here don't really payoff in a big way. My copy is the Skellington Head set on DVD, but the cost to upgrade here seems very steep. Jack the Giant Slayer: Another biggie. My copy is a 2-disc BD with no slip from Black Friday. I got it for about $5. I've heard in this case the 3D is really nice and adds a lot to the movie. Funny how one version of a movie can be dirt cheap, while another version of the same movie can be so expensive. The 3D version is about $30 or more on EBay, most don't even have slips. Tron Legacy: Almost forgot this one. My copy is a mint 2-disc BD with slip from release. Used 3D version typically runs in the mid $20's on EBay. As you guys may know, the 3D while good is only 'on' during some of the Net sequences. Not sure how I feel about rebuying the movie to watch something that's mostly in 2D (?) while wearing 3D glasses. If anyone has any thoughts on the relative value of these 3D releases, please do share....Thanks. Last edited by Frank@Chicago; 06-02-2015 at 07:06 PM.

06-02-2015, 06:41 PM	#3
BleedOrange11 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 44 Trading Score:4	Definitely get Jack in 3D. It was shot native and story-boarded in 3D for the VFX to impact the story in some key moments. John Carter looks decent in 3D but doesn't use it creatively. It's more like a 2D-style movie with okay depth relief. I enjoyed it but wouldn't recommend it to anyone who is critical of 3D. It probably won't change the experience much either way. Nightmare is one of the worst looking early conversions I've seen. I'd never watch it in 3D again. Poorly constructed depth in every frame. Look for some SBS 3D screenshots or clips online if you need to satisfy your curiosity. Last edited by BleedOrange11; 06-02-2015 at 07:06 PM.

06-02-2015, 07:44 PM	#9
BleedOrange11 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 44 Trading Score:4	Tron: Legacy sparks a lot of different opinions on here because it's well-crafted 3D but in a very subtle way. I liked it but understandably not everyone will. The first 23 minutes and last 3 minutes are in 2D, while only The Grid is in 3D, intended to intensify the emotions of the hyper-real virtual world. Additional Grid scenes slightly expand aspect ratio and 3D depth for designated IMAX sequences. This is quite effective at creating the emotional experience the director was going for but at the same time, lessens its value as a 3D show. It was shot native and well planned for in 3D and looks good. However the overall depth effect/parallax is not quite as strong as many would like, so faces and objects don't quite achieve the same roundness found in elite 3D movies like Avatar, Hugo, etc. I'd recommend it but with an asterisk. It has strong creative merit but not elite depth. I wouldn't hesitate calling it better than 2D. Last edited by BleedOrange11; 06-02-2015 at 07:49 PM.

06-02-2015, 11:42 PM	#17
Frank@Chicago Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2013 Blu-ray reviews:1	That went pretty well, got to 3925 Disney Reward points with my BD credits! I'm currently waiting for Cars 1&2 3D off EBay so that should put me over 4K. At that point, I'll be able to get Tron Legacy 3D and John Carter 3D both for free. Wow, talk about a Happy Ending. Cue the upbeat dance music people! Last edited by Frank@Chicago; 06-03-2015 at 05:49 AM.

06-02-2015, 06:36 PM	#2
levcore Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Dryland 4K collection:306 Blu-ray collection:2616 Trading Score:3	All three are great in 3D IMO. I especially love John Carter and I always watch the 3D version, same goes for Jack the Giant Slayer, really good 3D in both. Nightmare Before Christmas is a bit more reserved but offers great 3D all the same.

06-02-2015, 06:50 PM	#4
Blastcage Senior Member Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Sharpsburg, Georgia, USA	I've been trying to decide on Nightmare Before Christmas 3D as well. I don't own any copies of the movie, and I've heard meh reviews on the 3D in it.

06-02-2015, 06:52 PM	#5
bud_brigman Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2014 Location:Southeast U.S. 4K collection:820 Blu-ray collection:2467 DVD collection:214 Trading Score:5	Jack the Giant Slayer has really good 3D, and its story actually kept my wife interested.

06-02-2015, 07:08 PM	#6
DuranFanWI Special Member Member since:Sep 2013 Location:De Pere, WI Blu-ray collection:10 DVD collection:120 MA collection:1981 Digital collection:2775 iTunes collection:2577 Trading Score:21	Not sure what you have for Disney Movie Rewards points, but you can pick up Jack Carter 3D for 2000 points or 1400 points plus s&p (the better deal); Tron Legacy 3D is priced the same as well. Below is a link for all the 3D titles available thru DMR currently: http://www.disneymovierewards.go.com...sort=pl&page=1 I'd agree with the prior posters' opinions on the three movies as well. I would add that Tron Legacy 3D has medium 3D overall, there's no in-your-face 3D but has some really good moments, especially with the light cycles.

06-02-2015, 07:26 PM	#7
Frank@Chicago Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2013 Blu-ray reviews:1	I did take a look at the Disney rewards site recently after someone mentioned getting Tron for free. But the list of eligible BDs to earn points is so small, I have only three titles on that list and I'm not sure I have all the codes either (one was a used BD). Funny thing is I have a lot of Disney products like Planes that seem to have codes in them, but the web site doesn't show those titles as eligible. Maybe I should setup an account and just start feeding in the codes regardless...

06-02-2015, 08:11 PM	#11
infiniteCR Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2014 4K collection:327 Blu-ray collection:1649 DVD collection:190 Blu-ray reviews:5	Jack and the Giant slayer is a worthwhile, excellent 3d presentation. Story is fun enough too. The others are regrets for me

06-02-2015, 09:21 PM	#13
DB5 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Orlando, Fl 4K collection:26 Blu-ray collection:791 Trading Score:223	If you can, do what DuranfanWI said and join DMR and use those points. I have 3 of those movies you listed and have watched and liked them multiple times, the only one I don't have is a Nightmare before Xmas, I sold it as soon as I watched it and didn't care for it at all, we all have different tastes though. Here's a link for it on DMR as it doesn't show up on their rewards. http://www.disneymovierewards.go.com...-3dbdc-1068930 PS it has a beautiful slipcover

06-02-2015, 09:55 PM	#15
Frank@Chicago Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2013 Blu-ray reviews:1	Putting in my Disney codes now... Got to 300 points with DVDs only, but that's kinda disappointing because at least 10 DVDs had the Movie Rewards Star in back corner. I used to buy used at FYE so maybe that's why or maybe I threw them out, onward to BD where there should be more points to be had...

06-03-2015, 01:51 PM	#19
Wootini Active Member Member since:Aug 2014	Yeah, I was sad to read about the poor 3D on Nightmare Before Christmas. I watch it every Christmas, and last time I watched it, I noted how the camera angles should look really good in 3D, and became curious about the conversion. Disappointed to hear it's not good. I was mildly disappointed in Tron Legacy, because the 3D was mostly depth, and it wasn't until the chase scene late in the movie where I really felt like the 3D engaged me viscerally. However, I also got that for free using the Disney points I'd been accruing. I just recently got enough points for the original Tron, too. It'll take me a while to build them back up again, but I figure I'll get John Carter that way, too. (I had originally gotten Tangled 3D for free... it's all I've ever used those points for -- free movies!)

06-03-2015, 02:34 PM	#20
bud_brigman Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2014 Location:Southeast U.S. 4K collection:820 Blu-ray collection:2467 DVD collection:214 Trading Score:5	So, dumb question: When you use the Disney points, they basically send a retail package blu-ray to you, right? It's not like the Oz thing, where it's in an envelope, or sleeve ...

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