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xwingsct · 12-14-2007, 05:12 AM

I'm sick and tired of the media saying that HD digital download is the way of the future of movie watching at home.
If I buy movie I want to hold it in my hand and take it wherever I want and watch anywhere I want. I don't want the content to sit in my PC or some kind of set top box. Just because DVR is popular doesn't mean that's what poeple want . Yeah, it's good for recording shows on TV that's it. Imagine if the hard drive failed. there go your $1000 movies that you bought.

kknight · 12-14-2007, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xwingsct

I'm sick and tired of the media saying that HD digital download is the way of the future of movie watching at home.
If I buy movie I want to hold it in my hand and take it wherever I want and watch anywhere I want. I don't want the content to sit in my PC or some kind of set top box. Just because DVR is popular doesn't mean that's what poeple want . Yeah, it's good for recording shows on TV that's it. Imagine if the hard drive failed. there go your $1000 movies that you bought.

I 100% agree with you, I have no interest in digital download, when I buy something I want something physical to hold on to and people can browse my collection, read about it on the cover, get an idea what the movie is like and you can't do that with digital downloads.

YouSmellLikeBeans · 12-14-2007, 05:20 AM

My friend was talking to a guy at best buy and this dumbass best buy guy was talking about how both blu ray and hddvd arent going to be needed because digital downloads will be the best way to get your HD content. What a queer. Buying movies is one of my favorite things to do, if digital downloads ever did take over, my interest in buying movies after they are out of the theater would be completely gone.

jcdDigix · 12-14-2007, 05:24 AM

IMO They Are Just Trying To Influence The Weak People. Down Hd Digital Download!

blindcat87 · 12-14-2007, 05:32 AM

Put yourself in my shoes. Barring a cure to retinal degeneration, I can't see well enough to read onscreen menus. But I love movies. Audio/Video is the one major hobby I have kept. If digital downloads take over and all movies are stored in a little box in your system, where does that leave me? I can't braille the case of a downloaded movie. I don't see MS doing me the courtesy of talking menus to allow me to select my movies. If I have to go fetch help with better vision every time I want to watch a movie, it really isn't worth the stress and hassle.

Right now, if I haven't brailled a movie, it is pretty easy to slip it in the player to see what it is, but with a digital setup, how do I even find the selection menu and browse through it? So, basically I am hosed if downloads are the only choice.

Chris

Zaphod · 12-14-2007, 05:35 AM

Yeah... I'd like them to try downloading 50 GB of information at a time and then finding the storage space for a collection of 100 movies. This will cost an arm and a leg just in storage space alone...

Kristin Simard · 12-14-2007, 05:45 AM

I've posted my opinions about this on other threads. One valid point that someone else said is that hard media enables you to sell it when you get tired of it. That can go one step further. Once you have established an entire library of films, it becomes a valuable asset and often the whole becomes more valuable than the sum of its parts. For example, if you do like I do and collect the complete films of various directors. No way that an obsolete and old server with 500 downloads (riiiight) would become as valuable a collection as 500 Blu-ray discs.

xwingsct · 12-14-2007, 05:46 AM

So, they expect everybody in US to have Fios in their house? that's what you're gonna need if you want to download HD content. I can see it become popular among online rental like Netflix and Blockbuster. Because it will save them alot of money with postage and movie loss and renters just simply delete it when you're done watching and you don't have to go drop the movie off in the mail box.
Sorry, It just doesn't work the same way as audio.
What's gonna turn poeple off the most is probably DRM issue and I'm pretty sure microsoft is behind all this. I don't understand why they even bother. A 15yr old kid will crack it the first day in less than an hour. That's why they start selling DRM free music now.
So, they can say whatever they want but it's never gonn take off in my opinion.

Clark Kent · 12-14-2007, 05:48 AM

Digital downloads are the future of the home video market...in twenty years. By then tens of thousands of BDs have been released and HD DVD is just another failed technology like CED. When analysts mention downloads it's really an umbrella concept that's part of a bigger picture that includes V.O.D., DVR time-shifting, and several other niche markets that have started to eat into DVD sales.

Blu-Generation · 12-14-2007, 05:49 AM

About the whole "How I do sell my movies from digital download?" that's simple.

Tell your customer. "Hey, send me 50 bucks through paypal and i'll send you the movie through aim or msn."

doctorD · 12-14-2007, 05:54 AM

To look at it from a different viewpoint, IMO this is a sure sign that HD-DVD is on its way out. Now M$ will start focusing most of its attention to digital downloads (as prevalent by the announcement of the XBox 360 HD DVD Emulator). Realistically, this is still a ways off. There are a lot of people who still don't have Hi Speed internet to download.

Marcusarilius · 12-14-2007, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by YouSmellLikeBeans

My friend was talking to a guy at best buy and this dumbass best buy guy was talking about how both blu ray and hddvd arent going to be needed because digital downloads will be the best way to get your HD content. What a queer. Buying movies is one of my favorite things to do, if digital downloads ever did take over, my interest in buying movies after they are out of the theater would be completely gone.

Jr. Please refrain from calling people a "queer". A F_ck head or something of that nature sure. But has it never occured to you that BD homosexual fans are reading your post that has all the maturaty of a sixth grader? (Who uses the slang term "queer" anymore anyway?) You may want to take note for when you grow up and work alongside of gay people. Hell, some of my best friends are straight!

Beta-guy · 12-14-2007, 05:56 AM

HD download will g no where... they are saying that because HD-DVD is failing...

Maxell · 12-14-2007, 06:01 AM

Hard Drive/Flash media will never take over disc media. As big as Itunes is or will ever get, there will always be cd's. Same goes for movies.

As far as some of us are ahead in technology, there are millions of people way behind.

Crackbone · 12-14-2007, 06:07 AM

It's the fallback point for the HD DVD camp (MS) if they fail with HD DVD. Now Amir is downplaying HDM as a whole saying essentially...

Since we know that HD Optical isn't really going to take off, why spend 2 billion + dollars to make the transition to BD?

It's another disinformation campaign that's become the order of the day for MS it seems.

davidPS3 · 12-14-2007, 06:13 AM

We all know that this is being driven by Microsoft. They will push this and push this and force their will onto the the general public.

It may happen some day, but I don't see it happening in the near future.

JonD7 · 12-14-2007, 06:17 AM

agreed, downloads are terrible, I don't even buy music downloads, haha

docjan_uk · 12-14-2007, 06:18 AM

It IS the way of the future.

Doesn't mean blu-ray won't flourish over it's product cycle to around 2020, but it's going to increasingly live beside an expanding download market and that market will eventually take over from it for the mainstream rather than move to another optical format.
Eventually you'll probably be-able to stream high bitrate HD quality material over the cloud direct to viewing devices wherever and whenever you want anyway.
Definitely by 2020.

For those who want Ultra-HD on all their new movies then, I'm sure there will be some niche segment that will cater to it.

Banjo · 12-14-2007, 06:20 AM

It's not the video/audio quality... it's the bandwidth cap that is stopping the digital downloads from going anywhere.

Therefore, physical media is the best way to go.

xwingsct · 12-14-2007, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

It's not the video/audio quality... it's the bandwidth cap that is stopping the digital downloads from going anywhere.
Therefore, physical media is the best way to go.

Imagine everybody is downloading the movie at the same time. Our internet speed will be just as fast as 56K modem and if you have VOIP then just forget about using it. Because you will get cut off every other words.

12-14-2007, 05:12 AM	#1
xwingsct Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 3	I'm sick and tired of the media saying that HD digital download ..... I'm sick and tired of the media saying that HD digital download is the way of the future of movie watching at home. If I buy movie I want to hold it in my hand and take it wherever I want and watch anywhere I want. I don't want the content to sit in my PC or some kind of set top box. Just because DVR is popular doesn't mean that's what poeple want . Yeah, it's good for recording shows on TV that's it. Imagine if the hard drive failed. there go your $1000 movies that you bought.

12-14-2007, 05:46 AM	#8
xwingsct Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 3	So, they expect everybody in US to have Fios in their house? that's what you're gonna need if you want to download HD content. I can see it become popular among online rental like Netflix and Blockbuster. Because it will save them alot of money with postage and movie loss and renters just simply delete it when you're done watching and you don't have to go drop the movie off in the mail box. Sorry, It just doesn't work the same way as audio. What's gonna turn poeple off the most is probably DRM issue and I'm pretty sure microsoft is behind all this. I don't understand why they even bother. A 15yr old kid will crack it the first day in less than an hour. That's why they start selling DRM free music now. So, they can say whatever they want but it's never gonn take off in my opinion. Last edited by xwingsct; 12-14-2007 at 05:57 AM.

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12-14-2007, 05:20 AM	#3
YouSmellLikeBeans Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:221	My friend was talking to a guy at best buy and this dumbass best buy guy was talking about how both blu ray and hddvd arent going to be needed because digital downloads will be the best way to get your HD content. What a queer. Buying movies is one of my favorite things to do, if digital downloads ever did take over, my interest in buying movies after they are out of the theater would be completely gone.

12-14-2007, 05:24 AM	#4
jcdDigix Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:FL 4K collection:202 Blu-ray collection:1075 DVD collection:1341 Digital collection:3 iTunes collection:134 Blu-ray reviews:7	IMO They Are Just Trying To Influence The Weak People. Down Hd Digital Download!

12-14-2007, 05:32 AM	#5
blindcat87 Expert Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Southern NM	Put yourself in my shoes. Barring a cure to retinal degeneration, I can't see well enough to read onscreen menus. But I love movies. Audio/Video is the one major hobby I have kept. If digital downloads take over and all movies are stored in a little box in your system, where does that leave me? I can't braille the case of a downloaded movie. I don't see MS doing me the courtesy of talking menus to allow me to select my movies. If I have to go fetch help with better vision every time I want to watch a movie, it really isn't worth the stress and hassle. Right now, if I haven't brailled a movie, it is pretty easy to slip it in the player to see what it is, but with a digital setup, how do I even find the selection menu and browse through it? So, basically I am hosed if downloads are the only choice. Chris

12-14-2007, 05:35 AM	#6
Zaphod Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2007 Location:A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. Blu-ray collection:350 Trading Score:4	Yeah... I'd like them to try downloading 50 GB of information at a time and then finding the storage space for a collection of 100 movies. This will cost an arm and a leg just in storage space alone...

12-14-2007, 05:45 AM	#7
Kristin Simard Special Member Member since:Aug 2007	I've posted my opinions about this on other threads. One valid point that someone else said is that hard media enables you to sell it when you get tired of it. That can go one step further. Once you have established an entire library of films, it becomes a valuable asset and often the whole becomes more valuable than the sum of its parts. For example, if you do like I do and collect the complete films of various directors. No way that an obsolete and old server with 500 downloads (riiiight) would become as valuable a collection as 500 Blu-ray discs.

12-14-2007, 05:48 AM	#9
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Digital downloads are the future of the home video market...in twenty years. By then tens of thousands of BDs have been released and HD DVD is just another failed technology like CED. When analysts mention downloads it's really an umbrella concept that's part of a bigger picture that includes V.O.D., DVR time-shifting, and several other niche markets that have started to eat into DVD sales.

12-14-2007, 05:49 AM	#10
Blu-Generation Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:1	About the whole "How I do sell my movies from digital download?" that's simple. Tell your customer. "Hey, send me 50 bucks through paypal and i'll send you the movie through aim or msn."

12-14-2007, 05:54 AM	#11
doctorD Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Redmond, WA Home Theater Gallery:47 4K collection:397 Blu-ray collection:1723 Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:1	To look at it from a different viewpoint, IMO this is a sure sign that HD-DVD is on its way out. Now M$ will start focusing most of its attention to digital downloads (as prevalent by the announcement of the XBox 360 HD DVD Emulator). Realistically, this is still a ways off. There are a lot of people who still don't have Hi Speed internet to download.

12-14-2007, 05:56 AM	#13
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	HD download will g no where... they are saying that because HD-DVD is failing...

12-14-2007, 06:01 AM	#14
Maxell Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007	Hard Drive/Flash media will never take over disc media. As big as Itunes is or will ever get, there will always be cd's. Same goes for movies. As far as some of us are ahead in technology, there are millions of people way behind.

12-14-2007, 06:07 AM	#15
Crackbone Active Member Member since:Jul 2007	It's the fallback point for the HD DVD camp (MS) if they fail with HD DVD. Now Amir is downplaying HDM as a whole saying essentially... Since we know that HD Optical isn't really going to take off, why spend 2 billion + dollars to make the transition to BD? It's another disinformation campaign that's become the order of the day for MS it seems.

12-14-2007, 06:13 AM	#16
davidPS3 Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Seattle	We all know that this is being driven by Microsoft. They will push this and push this and force their will onto the the general public. It may happen some day, but I don't see it happening in the near future.

12-14-2007, 06:17 AM	#17
JonD7 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Cali 4K collection:86 Blu-ray collection:251	agreed, downloads are terrible, I don't even buy music downloads, haha

12-14-2007, 06:18 AM	#18
docjan_uk Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray reviews:5	It IS the way of the future. Doesn't mean blu-ray won't flourish over it's product cycle to around 2020, but it's going to increasingly live beside an expanding download market and that market will eventually take over from it for the mainstream rather than move to another optical format. Eventually you'll probably be-able to stream high bitrate HD quality material over the cloud direct to viewing devices wherever and whenever you want anyway. Definitely by 2020. For those who want Ultra-HD on all their new movies then, I'm sure there will be some niche segment that will cater to it.

12-14-2007, 06:20 AM	#19
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	It's not the video/audio quality... it's the bandwidth cap that is stopping the digital downloads from going anywhere. Therefore, physical media is the best way to go.

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