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Old 09-11-2007, 10:10 PM   #1
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Exclamation Hairspray Gets PIP Treatment, Support New Line!!!

“New Line has announced that they will be bringing the remake of the musical 'Hairspray' to Blu-ray on November 20th. Extras will include a new musical number, the documentary "You Can't Stop the Beat", a "Hairspray Extensions" featurette, audio commentaries and deleted scenes. The Blu-ray release will also feature a "Behind the Beat" picture-in-picture experience.”

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=498

Calling all Blu-Ray supporters!!! We must all purchase this film, a first BD film from New Line Cinema. We must all support New Line, and show them we, BD supporters, mean business. New Line is owned by WB; however, how they handle their film spec is all up to them. So far WB has treated BD as the underdog. Now New Line is going to release their first film on BD with advanced BD features, such as, PIP. We cannot let them down, and give them a chance to reconsider.

Who is with me? Long live Blu-Ray.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:11 PM   #2
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“New Line has announced that they will be bringing the remake of the musical 'Hairspray' to Blu-ray on November 20th. Extras will include a new musical number, the documentary "You Can't Stop the Beat", a "Hairspray Extensions" featurette, audio commentaries and deleted scenes. The Blu-ray release will also feature a "Behind the Beat" picture-in-picture experience.”

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=498

Calling all Blu-Ray supporters!!! We must all purchase this film, a first BD film from New Line Cinema. We must all support New Line, and show them we, BD supporters, mean business. New Line is owned by WB; however, how they handle their film spec is all up to them. So far WB has treated BD as the underdog. Now New Line is going to release their first film on BD with advanced BD features, such as, PIP. We cannot let them down, and give them a chance to reconsider.

Who is with me? Long live Blu-Ray.
I wanted to like this film but.........well yea I didnt. I really wish they released something else for their first Hi def release all well. I'll pick it up on Blu for the gf to watch.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:12 PM   #3
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Blu-ray owners will have several months to show NL some love...

http://www.homemediaretailing.com/ne...ticle_ID=11160

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Lasorsa said the HD DVD version of Hairspray will most likely be released some time in the first half of next year. He attributes the delay to region coding issues. Blu-ray has region coding, but HD DVD does not. “And since we sell to independent international distributors,” Lasorsa said, “we have to be more sensitive to their release dates than a major studio.”

Even after Hairspray, most New Line titles will be released the same day on both standard DVD and Blu-ray Disc, with a lag for the HD DVD version. “But for second-party acquisitions to which we don’t have international rights,” Lasorsa said, “we will be day-and-date on all three formats.”
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:18 PM   #4
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Don't get too excited. Crank & Dragon's Lair has PIP, too. They just encoded the whole movie again with the commentary/bonus stuff. This is probably the same. No way someone is going to release a Blu-Ray title with features for non-existent 1.1 profile players. (2nd video processor needed.)
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:19 PM   #5
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Blu-ray owners will have several months to show NL some love...

http://www.homemediaretailing.com/ne...ticle_ID=11160
Nice find, take that you HD-DVD region free lovers.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:19 PM   #6
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http://www.homemediaretailing.com/ne...ticle_ID=11160[/QUOTE]

This most likely means that any neutral buyers will buy the blu-ray version, since they won't be able to get HD-DVD for a while. That's great.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:22 PM   #7
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The Descent also has PIP, another Lionsgate title. So, they beat Hairspray by a long shot with two titles.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:23 PM   #8
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I agree kinda of a weird first HD release for them. But oh well.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:23 PM   #9
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There is no chance in hell that I will even consider EVER watching this movie again... YUCK!

Good for New Line, I wish I could support them.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:25 PM   #10
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People don't seem to be grasping this...

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Even after Hairspray, most New Line titles will be released the same day on both standard DVD and Blu-ray Disc, with a lag for the HD DVD version.
LOTR on Blu-ray first. Or am I missing something?
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:31 PM   #11
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Hey I have not seen this film, and most likely I would not like it. I just want WB to realize if New Line can do it then so can they. I want to support New Line because they are supporting BD more than WB, and because they are making their parent company look bad.

First, their first film will feature PIP, and none of WB’s for BD does.

Second, they are going to release their film on BD before HD-DVD, unlike WB, who released majority of their titles on HD-DVD first.

Third, we need to support New Line so much that they might become BD exclusive, because I want LOTR on BD only.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:48 PM   #12
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GoldenRedux, I'm just being logical. Doing a mandatory 2nd video processor PIP feature that can play on 0 players in the marketplace currently is not something I'd do. I'd use the extra BD space and do a 2nd encode and make everyone happy. No FUD here. Crank and The Descent did a good job.

I can tell you for a fact that Warner currently has a video encode PIP title in the works for BD, so why can't New Line, too?
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:08 PM   #13
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next to 300 and Close Encounters, I believe this is the third most critical BD release EVER. Why? 300 let WB know where the market is. Because we crushed HD DVD in sales (and continue to), they chose to reject the Toshiba bribe and remain neutral. Close Encounters is the first Spielberg release to Hi-Def. If we eat this like a fat kid eats cake, we can expect many more titles from the S man...and possibly from Paramount and Universal.... Hairspray is no different. It's New Line's first entry into the fray. They have some major titles that I want to see in Blu - so we need to convince them through our purchase that we literally mean business (I for one never saw it, but my fiancee did, so I'm going to buy it for her) and that's that.
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People don't seem to be grasping this...



LOTR on Blu-ray first. Or am I missing something?
I wonder if this is for new releases only, and not for catalog titles. LOTR doesn't need to have business protected by region coding since it's a catalog title.
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:12 PM   #15
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But but but...
It's Hairspray!
John Travolta in a Fat Suit - where's Divine?

Ok I may have to get it because some of the exteriors were done in my neighbourhood here in Toronto and me youngster has chatted it up.

Thanks GoldenRedux for nipping that dual encode crap in the bud. I'm speculating at least two new players will be declared 1.1 after the Round Robin testing is complete in mid-October.

I'd also speculate that the PS3 will be 1.1 before Christmas. Why *anyone* thinks that Sony won't invest in the PS3 user base is beyond me. The PS3 has always been part of the BDA's strategem - it has been the front line that has allowed the CE infrastruture to get itself established. The fruit of that strategy will begin to bear come this Christmas. BD was *meant* to launch with the 1.1 profile. Its hand was forced with the early (and premature) launch of HD DVD. The PS3 has been the footsoldier and will continue to be so until games ship and the BDA transitions to standalones - somhwere around this Christmas - funny that.

sonicbox, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you didn't simply sign up to pour cold water on this small positive for BD. Time will tell.

btw - I personally don't give a hoot for PIP - waste of bandwidth in my book but then I'm a tech wonk

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Old 09-11-2007, 11:14 PM   #16
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This most likely means that any neutral buyers will buy the blu-ray version, since they won't be able to get HD-DVD for a while. That's great. [/QUOTE]

This is actually big news! With New Line part of Time-Warner, I wonder if Warner themselves will follow suit any time soon? Doubtful, but you never know...
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:43 PM   #17
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Even after Hairspray, most New Line titles will be released the same day on both standard DVD and Blu-ray Disc, with a lag for the HD DVD version.
Then I guess BD will get "Rush Hour 3" first as well.
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tvted, just a lurker before, but I had to comment since I'm aware of what Warner is doing with another BD title and it is definitely not 'real' PIP.

Remember, PIP requires a 2nd video processor that doesn't exist on most of the standalone players. That's a fact. Yes, PS3 could be upgraded to 1.1 and it will most likely happen but that doesn't fix the rest.

As an authoring house, I'd develop a feature that will work on all players. Why piss off any percentage of your potential buyers, when there is plenty of extra space on the BD? Crank and The Descent did this successfully.
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As an authoring house, I'd develop a feature that will work on all players. Why piss off any percentage of your potential buyers, when there is plenty of extra space on the BD? Crank and The Descent did this successfully.
You may be correct about this particular encoding - I don't care whether PIP exists - it wastes bandwidth. I might point out that this sentiment is not atypical as many polls on AVS and herabouts have indicated.

Warner has held back titles because of the lack of this very feature. Unless you are an Insider you have no more proof that Warner (New Line) will not be encoding for the lowest common denominator which is the PS3. The BDA has always indicated the first gen players will not have the necessary hardware to handle PIP. The vast majority of the BD player base i.e. the PS3 *will* be capable of said feature. If an authoring house is aiming at the majority of the BD base, they will produce for the PS3.

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Old 09-12-2007, 12:32 AM   #20
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i'd like to support New Line but... yeah, I can't just spend money on a title like that, haha, if they released something for dudes then yes... yes I would most def buy it.
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