Hairspray Blu-ray features DTS-HD Audio, High-Def extras

[The Big Blue]

People don't seem to be grasping this...

Even after Hairspray, most New Line titles will be released the same day on both standard DVD and Blu-ray Disc, with a lag for the HD DVD version.

LOTR on Blu-ray first. Or am I missing something?

[bferr1]

Originally Posted by The Big Blue

People don't seem to be grasping this...



LOTR on Blu-ray first. Or am I missing something?

I wonder if this is for new releases only, and not for catalog titles. LOTR doesn't need to have business protected by region coding since it's a catalog title.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by The Big Blue

LOTR on Blu-ray first. Or am I missing something?

By BDA rules LOTR would have to be released region free.

Region coding on BD applies to new releases for a 12-month window. And, is specifically there for the reason that has forced NLs hand. Their contracts require them to protect the other territories.

So, DVD people are happy.
Blu-ray people are happy.

And HD DVD folk can tell us how useless each and every NL title were anyway.

Gary

[Chris Beveridge]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

By BDA rules LOTR would have to be released region free.

Region coding on BD applies to new releases for a 12-month window. And, is specifically there for the reason that has forced NLs hand. Their contracts require them to protect the other territories.

Eh?

No, not my understanding. If New Line decided to region code Lord of the Rings, they can. If after a year they want to make a new run of them however, they have to release a version without the coding. UNLESS they add new content to it and presumably a new sku in which case they can code it again.

Doesn't matter if it's catalog or not, any title can be coded for 12 months. It's how a company handles it afterwards. The idea is that the costs of doing changes for a new edition or changing it to remove region coding is money that doens't need to be spent so it encourages studios to not code in the first place.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

Eh?

No, not my understanding. If New Line decided to region code Lord of the Rings, they can. If after a year they want to make a new run of them however, they have to release a version without the coding. UNLESS they add new content to it and presumably a new sku in which case they can code it again.

Doesn't matter if it's catalog or not, any title can be coded for 12 months. It's how a company handles it afterwards. The idea is that the costs of doing changes for a new edition or changing it to remove region coding is money that doens't need to be spent so it encourages studios to not code in the first place.

Is that the strict interpretation of the rule? Did they leave a hole that doesn't distinguish new releases and catalogue? That's a shame.

Seems rather pointless to region code a catalogue under those conditions, so perhaps rather than deal with studios bickering what constitutes a new release (e.g. were the LOTR-EE a new release?) the BDA decided to make the wording such that, as you say, the costs would be such that it doesn't make sense to release a true catalogue title coded to begin with.

Out of curiosity, has a region coded catalogue title been released on BD?

Gary

[Chris Beveridge]

I'm sure there are plenty of region coded catalog titles, particularly coming out of Europe. What people need to remember is that the world does not revolve around US releases and that there are numerous areas that are in competition for distribution. And not just with films but with TV series and more. This is particularly an issue in asia where there are plenty of shows, concerts, etc that are very specific in how they can be distributed overseas through the massive corporations that invest in the films and divvy up all the rights.

While the big studios are what will get things off the ground, everything is fleshed out by all the other studios and "infrastructre".

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

I'm sure there are plenty of region coded catalog titles, particularly coming out of Europe. What people need to remember is that the world does not revolve around US releases and that there are numerous areas that are in competition for distribution. And not just with films but with TV series and more. This is particularly an issue in asia where there are plenty of shows, concerts, etc that are very specific in how they can be distributed overseas through the massive corporations that invest in the films and divvy up all the rights.

Actually, I would have thought the US was more likely to lazily slap on region coding rather than figuring out which international distribution agreements are outside of A.

But, a good part of southeast Asia (Japan, Korea, Signapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc.) are region A like North America. India and China are the only major countries in the vicinity not in A.

So an Asia/North America issue separation isn't really possible this time.

And I guess the obvious question is: If region coding is so important, what does that mean to HD DVD in Europe and Asia?

Gary

[JadedRaverLA]

Originally Posted by HebrewHammer00

ok i apologize, im sick of ppl dissing Hairspray before watching it, if you havent seen it watch it. Let just say, i have 11 blurays which ive bought on eBay., this is the only movie in which ill pay full price at best buy. So that tells you something

I completely agree. Hairspray was a surprisingly awesome flickl Everyone should see it. Here's hoping for lossless audio as well.

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Out of curiosity, has a region coded catalogue title been released on BD?

Gary

Uh... all the Fox-released discs.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

Uh... all the Fox-released discs.

Well, I guess I should have checked.

[raggarichie]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

I completely agree. Hairspray was a surprisingly awesome flickl Everyone should see it. Here's hoping for lossless audio as well.




Uh... all the Fox-released discs.

I have a wife, sisters and sisters in law who would love to sit in my Home theater and watch this flick.

HDDVD folks making a big deal about Knockup(BTW i didn't think was that funny) so why shouldn't we buy Hairspray?

Let me guess

1. is it because it's coming out on Blu ray first?

[ifg]

I am only speculating but...could this announcement and the announcement of a new 4 pack from Warner only on Blu be tied together somehow?

I got to admit. Hairspray was not as bad as I thought. I will be buying it for my wife who loved it.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

Uh... all the Fox-released discs.

Only 50% of Fox's titles are region coded.

[WriteSimply]

I just updated the Wiki entry to Hairspray, the movie. Added the BD section.


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[tron3]

Originally Posted by The Big Blue

People don't seem to be grasping this...

LOTR on Blu-ray first. Or am I missing something?

We grasp it just fine. The studios grasp what we want just fine. But they are going to tease us with the lesser titles first to bone up some cash and THEN move on to big hits when things slump a little. They are trying to keep a steady growth in the numbers.

If everything came out THIS MONTH, sales would boom for a few months while people get around to picking this stuff up. Then, almost nada. They know what they are doing. Gotta bait the hook first.

[WickyWoo]

People don't seem to be grasping this...

LOTR on Blu-ray first. Or am I missing something?

LOTR is 5 years past its theatrical window

No non-new release is affected by this.

[jamclaur]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

LOTR is 5 years past its theatrical window

No non-new release is affected by this.

Not to mention that Peter Jackson FINALLY settled the law-suit he filed against the studio for crapping him out of money.

They need to let everything settle, figure out how much he's owed, then move foward. They can't release LOTR without knowing how much Pete's gonna make or they will be back in court.

++++ And F all YI's "hairspray" is not a woman's movie. I'm a male, and I enjoyed the movie. And I will be purchaseing it.

thanks.

[WriteSimply]

Custom art, just because I don't think the current art is nice.




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[jamclaur]

I like the 2nd one a lot!

[venusiansky]

Travolta playing the same part as Divine is just too scary for me. What's next, Pink Flamingos remake? Just kidding.
Sorry, but as much as I would like to support New Line with Blu-ray, I cannot bring myself to purchase this movie.