JB Excl. Die Hard 25th Anniversary Legacy Collection - Inc 'Uncut' Die Hard 4.0

[Futurhythm]

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/d...blu-ray/692105

So I was in JB today and noticed this new Die Hard boxset. I didn't think much of it at first, but then I noticed it said "Die Hard 4.0 - Harder Edition" on the cover. I checked the back and it listed the same extras as the regular edition of 4.0, but in a seperate box it said something about an extended ending or something like that. I wish I took a picture because I can't remember the exact wording.

Has anybody actually picked up this set or knows more about it? The German boxset got the uncut version of the movie and our releases are usually lumped in with the rest of Europe. Did we get lucky?

[StrayButler91]

I haven't purchased it myself, but there has been discussion on this in other parts of the forum. It indeed contains the unrated Die Hard 4.0, you get an option from the main menu to watch one or the other.

But if you already own the films, I don't think it's worth a double dip since the unrated cut is bollocks anyway. Few pink CGI blood puffs and some very obviously dubbed curse words. I hate DH4 personally - I have the old Die Hard box-set and actually removed it from the set.

[musclehead]

I picked this set up last week and YES Die hard 4 does include the Extended but "shorter" and UNRATED version. F words and blood its all there.

I think the Aussies got the best set out of everyone which shocked me as we usually get shafted on some blu rays so glad they didn't stuff this set up.

Also watch the Decoding Die Hard disc as it's a very good retrospective doc on the first 4 films.

[Mobe1969]

Oh YES!!!!!

[Durden78]

Purchased this title myself last week and it definitely seems like uncut Die Hard 4.0. Quite an impressive set extras-wise as well, especially since Australia gets regularly shafted in terms of extras (no Watchmen Director's Cut, Man of Steel missing extras, no Lethal Weapon set with the docos). Even, like it or not, the addition of the A Good Day to Die Hard extended disc makes it top notch in terms of up-to-date completeness.

[Villan]

Great news about Die Hard 4.

Interesting to see that the original Die Hard is also called "Harder Edition". Is this a marketing gimmick or a genuinely different cut?

[IndyMLVC]

Is the bonus disc a Blu-ray or a DVD?

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by Villan

Great news about Die Hard 4.

Interesting to see that the original Die Hard is also called "Harder Edition". Is this a marketing gimmick or a genuinely different cut?

There is 100% certainty, that in no way that Die Hard would contain an alternative cut.

It would have been all over the internet should that happen.

[BenjaminG]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

There is 100% certainty, that in no way that Die Hard would contain an alternative cut.

It would have been all over the internet should that happen.

I noticed this too in the pre-release artwork - however the final Blu-ray cover no longer says "Harder Cut"

[Durden78]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Is the bonus disc a Blu-ray or a DVD?

The bonus disc is an additional Blu-Ray. Contains the "Decoding Die Hard" documentary and trailers for the first four films

[badfingerboogie]

I grabbed a copy of this today during the 20% off sales, does anyone want me to upload pics of the set?

For reference, it's not an Amaray like the previous set, it's a box, approx. the width of 2 BD cases.

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by badfingerboogie

I grabbed a copy of this today during the 20% off sales, does anyone want me to upload pics of the set?

For reference, it's not an Amaray like the previous set, it's a box, approx. the width of 2 BD cases.

Yep totally upload some photos!

[badfingerboogie]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

Yep totally upload some photos!

Pics in spoilers. If you want a look at something in particular, let me know.

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All the discs have new art, though DH1-3 are all the same content from the previous Australian releases.

DH4, as seen above, does not say 'harder cut' on the disc, which was a little surprising at first, as the DH5 disc specifically says that under the title. Whatever, no big deal I guess.

Decoding Die Hard is on a BD-25, the rest are BD-50s.

DH4 has been majorly changed from the old release in terms of set-up (the transfer quality is identical), I did quite a few comparisons:

-The old release, like DH1-3, goes straight to the movie, and only has a pop-up menu. If you're viewing the BD from a PS3, it just came up as 'BDMV'.

-The new release has a brand new menu, somewhat similar to DH5's menu. When viewing from a PS3, it has its own image, and the title shows up ('Die Hard 4.0')

-When you put the disc on, it immediately asks whether you want to go to the theatrical or extended menu (unlike the DH5 Blu, which just automatically takes you to the theatrical, and you have to switch from the 'Set Up' options)

-Crucially, this release of DH4 contains more special features than the previous one - Fox brought over everything from the other DVD releases etc. Even though none of these are listed on the back of the case, the theatrical cut commentary with Bruce and Wiseman has been brought over (absent from the previous Australian BD, and I think the UK BD?)

-The gag reel is also back. There may have been some other featurettes, but I don't think so. I'll do a double-check tomorrow, if anyone cares. Nothing is missing from the old release; it's all there.

-DH5 disc is, I believe, the exact same release as previously available here. Although the back of the case does not mention it, the John Moore/other dude commentary is there for the extended cut.

Anyone have any other questions before they take the plunge?

[LordCrumb]

Digistack. I'm ok with that type of packaging.. if it's looked after it can hold together quite well.

Cheers for the info bro.

[bob00]

Any idea why the bonus disc is MA?

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by bob00

Any idea why the bonus disc is MA?

Probably because it features scenes from the films... swearing and violence.

[Villan]

Originally Posted by bob00

Any idea why the bonus disc is MA?

I was wondering that too.

With all 5 Die Hard's classified M, it's a little confusing why the bonus disc is MA. Oh well, I'll get to watch it myself in a few days

[badfingerboogie]

Yeah, I haven't worked out what the deal is with the MA rating, it also had to be re-rated? Like, the original rating was MA for "Action, violence and coarse language", but then there's a new MA sticker over the top of that for "Strong violence and coarse language"

So the MA rating for Decoding is intentional, though I'm not sure what they based it on. Regardless, cool to see something Die Hard-related with an MA rating on it, though a part of me knows it makes no difference whatsoever.

Also the first time Die Hard 2's been referred to here as just that in a home entertainment release - the front, spine, back, disc art and billing block all just say "Die Hard 2", instead of the cheesy "Die Hard 2: Die Harder" international title that used to be plastered over all the previous releases.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by bob00

Any idea why the bonus disc is MA?

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

Probably because it features scenes from the films... swearing and violence.

I'm no expert on Australian classifications. But the M classification is truly bizarre in its breadth and scope, and it seems that this is because there was no MA15+ certification until 1993. So it's highly likely that while the first two (and arguably most violent and bloody) Die Hard films received M certs on original release, those same films today would easily be MA15+. So the film proper retains its original cert, but when violent footage from that film has to be re-used in a new film or video, it would naturally cause the new work to get an MA15+, in line with current standards.

[badfingerboogie]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

I'm no expert on Australian classifications. But the M classification is truly bizarre in its breadth and scope, and it seems that this is because there was no MA15+ certification until 1993. So it's highly likely that while the first two (and arguably most violent and bloody) Die Hard films received M certs on original release, those same films today would easily be MA15+. So the film proper retains its original cert, but when violent footage from that film has to be re-used in a new film or video, it would naturally cause the new work to get an MA15+, in line with current standards.

This is most likely the case. DH1-3 are all US R-rated, the equivalent of our MA, so I always found it odd that they were M rated here.

That being said, the DH5 Blu contains a featurette called 'Maximum McClane', which seems to just be a compilation of some of the first four movies' most violent/coarse moments, yet that BD retains an M.

Also of interest - wasn't the Australian theatrical release of DH5 censored for an M rating? But the film appears on BD uncensored, and yet still is an M?