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Old 11-17-2013, 12:37 PM   #1
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Any idea why the bonus disc is MA?
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Probably because it features scenes from the films... swearing and violence.
I'm no expert on Australian classifications. But the M classification is truly bizarre in its breadth and scope, and it seems that this is because there was no MA15+ certification until 1993. So it's highly likely that while the first two (and arguably most violent and bloody) Die Hard films received M certs on original release, those same films today would easily be MA15+. So the film proper retains its original cert, but when violent footage from that film has to be re-used in a new film or video, it would naturally cause the new work to get an MA15+, in line with current standards.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:23 PM   #2
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I'm no expert on Australian classifications. But the M classification is truly bizarre in its breadth and scope, and it seems that this is because there was no MA15+ certification until 1993. So it's highly likely that while the first two (and arguably most violent and bloody) Die Hard films received M certs on original release, those same films today would easily be MA15+. So the film proper retains its original cert, but when violent footage from that film has to be re-used in a new film or video, it would naturally cause the new work to get an MA15+, in line with current standards.
This is most likely the case. DH1-3 are all US R-rated, the equivalent of our MA, so I always found it odd that they were M rated here.

That being said, the DH5 Blu contains a featurette called 'Maximum McClane', which seems to just be a compilation of some of the first four movies' most violent/coarse moments, yet that BD retains an M.

Also of interest - wasn't the Australian theatrical release of DH5 censored for an M rating? But the film appears on BD uncensored, and yet still is an M?
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:28 PM   #3
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This is most likely the case. DH1-3 are all US R-rated, the equivalent of our MA, so I always found it odd that they were M rated here.
The list of very odd M cert titles is numerous, especially violent action films from the late 80 to the early 90s. The first three Lethal Weapon movies (the fourth, which released in 1998, is MA15+), Predator, Red Heat, the first three Rambo films, even Hellraiser--yes Hellraiser--all of these are M certs which should probably be MA15+ (or in the case of Hellraiser, R18+, I really don't know what happened there).

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Old 11-17-2013, 03:05 PM   #4
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The list of very odd M cert titles is numerous, especially violent action films from the late 80 to the early 90s. The first three Lethal Weapon movies (the fourth, which released in 1998, is MA15+), Predator, Red Heat, the first three Rambo films, even Hellraiser--yes Hellraiser--all of these are M certs which should probably be MA15+ (or in the case of Hellraiser, R18+, I really don't know what happened there).
Forgot all about Hellraiser - every time I the Umbrella release in stores it raises a chuckle from me when I see that ratings logo.

Predator also looks kinda goofy with its M rating when placed alongside the (previously?) R-rated sequel.
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:28 PM   #5
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Roadshow cut Hellraiser down from an R to M for its cinema release, then released it uncut for VHS.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:58 AM   #6
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Roadshow cut Hellraiser down from an R to M for its cinema release, then released it uncut for VHS.
Yes, but it's still an M, uncut, which is what I don't understand...I mean Hellraiser has the same Australian cert as this.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:33 AM   #7
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No it's still an R. Umbrella have just put the wrong classification on their release.

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Old 12-04-2013, 02:52 PM   #9
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Does that mean this release is the uncut version, it appears to be listed as the copy available in that collection in the database

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Does that mean this release is the uncut version, it appears to be listed as the copy available in that collection in the database

Tell me the differences and I'll check my copy.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:01 PM   #11
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Tell me the differences and I'll check my copy.
I wish I could but I have the US release. I was thinking about buying the AU release but only if I knew it was also the uncut version, which I think it will be.
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Cash_Black what is the size of the box, is it the same blu ray case size or bigger like a dvd case
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Cash_Black what is the size of the box, is it the same blu ray case size or bigger like a dvd case
same height as a blu ray, about as wide as 2 1/2
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:24 AM   #14
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I'm looking to purchase this. Any suggestions as it's now disappeared from JB and I didn't see it on Chaos or EzyDvd.
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Old 01-22-2014, 11:34 AM   #15
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Isn't this the one you're looking for?

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/d...lection/692066

Seems like there's plenty of copies around in store still, according to the in-store pickup tab.
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Isn't this the one you're looking for?

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/d...lection/692066

Seems like there's plenty of copies around in store still, according to the in-store pickup tab.
No that's the DVD.

Strange that it's not available on site, there's still copies in store.
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Old 01-22-2014, 11:57 AM   #17
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No that's the DVD.

Strange that it's not available on site, there's still copies in store.
Crap, how could I miss that! That is weird that it doesn't list any in stores. In case anyone after a copy is near Top Ryde, I know they have a couple of copies in stock (of the Blu-ray!).
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Old 01-22-2014, 01:35 PM   #18
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Really bummed that they aren't selling Die Hard 4 uncut buy itself, really don't need to buy the others again.
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Can I get the unrated BD of 4 separately, or does it only come in the package?
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Can I get the unrated BD of 4 separately, or does it only come in the package?
apparently only in the package its not sold seperatly.
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