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Old 03-09-2017, 12:50 PM   #1
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just announced...list is only 129...


https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/P...ves/BDR-211UBK
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Old 03-09-2017, 01:45 PM   #2
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Might need to look into one of those this summer.
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I know this was mentioned somewhere in a prior post in this thread, but the requirements make it almost impossible to put one of these in a PC unless you have newer hardware. As of early this year, they were:

-Newest generation Intel processor (Kaby Lake and above), AMD Zen I would assume support this, but haven't checked.
-Newest gen chipsets - z270+ for Intel, AM4 socket motherboards for AMD
-HDMI 2.0a output from PC
-HDMI 2.0a input on monitor

Here's an article outlining the requirements in more detail:

https://www.extremetech.com/computin...6x-burn-speeds
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Old 03-10-2017, 05:20 AM   #4
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Is the USA market only going to get one desktop 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray drive from Pioneer this year? There was another article that mentioned two Pioneer BD-ROM drives being released, but maybe that is for Japan.

This Pioneer BDR-211UBK for only $129.99 is only $30 more when compared to the old Pioneer BDR-2209. Also it looks like most or all the specs are basically the same as the BDR-2209 when it comes to BDXL support up to 128GB. Sometimes I wonder if a firmware update could be written to the old BDR-2209 so that 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs can be read (the BDR-211UBK might have special optics that were needed to play 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs).

Here is the owners manual

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Business/BDR-211UBK_OperatingInstructions022717.pdf
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Old 03-10-2017, 05:25 AM   #5
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Default Pioneer 4K Ultra HD BD-ROM drive for $129.99 list price

For some reason 4K Ultra HD hardware and software is placed in a niche area of the forum. For more information on the Pioneer drive a new thread has been started.


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...1#post13331997
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Old 03-10-2017, 05:57 AM   #6
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Looks like the UHD drive will be riplocked:

◾Auto Quiet Mode – The drive monitors how it is being used and will adjust its disc rotation speed automatically, using a quieter mode (slower speed) when watching Blu-ray and DVD titles or listening to conventional audio CDs.
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Old 03-14-2017, 02:31 PM   #7
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If all the demands on system requirements are to be fully satisfied I suspect that a number of people will stay away from the playback of Blu-Ray 4K in the computer.

Take Intel's Software Guard Extension (SGX), for example. This is, according to what I got to know, a CPU based protection scheme. If mandatory, it will exclude anyone with a non-compliant motherboard and CPU, regardless of the rest of the PC.

F.Y.I., the Blu-Ray 4K was not released in my country, for reasons unknown. Last year, I spoke to a Sony rep, and he said that the company was studying the possibility of releasing a player to the Brazilian market. They never did.

There are until now, to my knowledge, no 4K discs for sale as well, none whatsoever, and I am still to find out why!

So, there you are.

I too have a LG WH16NS40, which is a BDXL drive once reported to read a Blu-Ray 4K disc, and I also use Cyberlink's PowerDVD 2016 Ultra. My graphics card is the EVGA GTX 1080 SC, fully 4K, HDCP and HDMI/DisplayPort compatible. In addition, I have installed the Dell UP3216Q at 4K resolution, 60 Hz, 10 bpc in the system. Nice, isn't it?

Will I be able to play a 4K Blu-Ray? I am not sure!

Am I willing to try one disc? Absolutely NO!

People who designed the 4K version of the Blu-Ray apparently did not learn important lessons form the past, in regard to end users.

Such as an increase in the number of safe guards, protection schemes, including the infamous Cinavia, and for the sake of what exactly? Not to allow the consumer to make a copy for his own usage?

Will that stop piracy? It never did and probably never will.

All these precautions are screwing up optical digital media, and for good reasons I will not be surprised if the 4K Blu-Ray will not find its way to the personal computer, and eventually FLOP big time in the consumer arena.

I can easily adjust my current HT equipment to upscale to 4K, and to be granted with a very decent, if not excellent, quality picture on my 4K TV, off a good quality regular Blu-Ray disc.

I can also get an impressive soundtrack from Dolby Atmos and DTS:X editions, readily available in the next local store.

Why then would I bother with a 4K Blu-Ray import, even if my PC would be able to pay it?

I am completely PRO-UPGRADE, as much as the next guy. But not by being driven to insane playback demands!

If you guys know the answer to all these questions, be all means let me know.
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@Paulo Elias

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=287599
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Old 03-14-2017, 06:23 PM   #9
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Thank you for the link, I did not know that there were two threads on the same topic.

But anyway, it only confirms what I had already suspected.

I finished recently a new build, I am not building another computer only for the sake of Blu-Ray 4K.

By the way, my new PC is fitted with a HDR capable video graphics card, which I tested with an HDR TV. The monitor I use for daily work is a 4K monitor but it does not officially display HDR. I am not aware if there is an HDR PC monitor for sale.
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