Simpsons PQ - Blu-ray Forum

insane4 · 01-02-2008, 08:26 PM

Hi folks. Got Simpsons for the holiday, and had a question.

A majority of the character movment has what almost looks like a jitter when they move. Nothing major, but noticeable. Is this normal? Am I being too picky? Looks great otherwise.

Setup:

PS3, w/ settings on Auto
XBR4
Movie is coming over at 1080/24p.

TIA!

Blu-Style · 01-02-2008, 08:49 PM

No, should all run smooth...

DrinkMore · 01-02-2008, 08:58 PM

Oh god, here it comes.

richard lichtenfelt · 01-02-2008, 09:03 PM

The Simpson's got a 5 out of 5 rating for picture quality on every review I read.
It is not the movies fault if you are experiencing difficulties.

Pilam69 · 01-02-2008, 09:05 PM

Just watched it on our new plasma and it looked beautiful (had to try it out on the plasma, even at 720p WOW!!!). The transfer is almost too vivid. Quite simply amazing. No jaggies or blurring of any kind.

ILLSQUAD2G · 01-02-2008, 09:07 PM

Hello, I would have to say this is the BEST PQ I HAVE SEEN YET. I will buy this movie to show off BLURAY ON MY 42"1080P TOSHIBA. It almost makes the characters appear in 3D Its outstanding. Your set may have a slow response time if its an LCD ? All I know is it looked PERFECT

TJones8124 · 01-02-2008, 09:15 PM

It does have noticable edge enhancement on a calibrated TV. If EE doesn't bother you, and you don't know what it is....don't look it up or learn about it. If you do, you'll start to notice it more and more.

stockstar1138 · 01-02-2008, 09:15 PM

do the people who are responding to this guy have 1080p/24??? i know toshiba has yet to get a 1080p/24 tv out on the market.

i have watched movies on 1080p/24 and i think the motion looks weird. ive heard you need to turn off a setting thats called "movie smooth motion" or something like that (help, if anybody else knows what im talking about) and it fixes the weirdness in how things move.

thats just what i heard, i got a 1080p/60 and it looked great. i could be totally wrong, but i think there is some validity in what i said, so look at your settings.

DrinkMore · 01-02-2008, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJones8124

It does have noticable edge enhancement on a calibrated TV. If EE doesn't bother you, and you don't know what it is....don't look it up or learn about it. If you do, you'll start to notice it more and more.

See, it only took 7 posts! I KNEW IT! I am unsubscribing now.

insane4 · 01-02-2008, 09:23 PM

Hmm... So I should turn off the 1080/24p and see what it looks like then?

I think I've got that CineMotion thing turned off on my set, but I'll double-check.

Should be perfectly smooth 100% tho? I'm not talking about the EE FYI.

Gremal · 01-02-2008, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

The Simpson's got a 5 out of 5 rating for picture quality on every review I read.
It is not the movies fault if you are experiencing difficulties.

Well, it got a 4.5 out of 5 here.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...01&show=review

stockstar1138 · 01-02-2008, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insane4

Hmm... So I should turn off the 1080/24p and see what it looks like then?

I think I've got that CineMotion thing turned off on my set, but I'll double-check.

Should be perfectly smooth 100% tho? I'm not talking about the EE FYI.

id keep 1080p/24 on if I was you.

try turning CineMotion (thats what I was talking about) on, maybe.

the only other thought i can think of is since its a movie based on a tv show, that it was done to a tv standard of 60 frames per second, but on a 120hz tv that really shouldn't matter.

DetroitSportsFan · 01-02-2008, 09:55 PM

I'm in the market for 2 new TVs, but damn.

All of this 1080/24, 1080/60, edge enhancement....

And I thought all I needed was 1080p.

supersix4 · 01-02-2008, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

Oh god, here it comes.

seems like a troll to me beautiful movie on my xbr4's and elite

insane4 · 01-02-2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersix14

seems like a troll to me beautiful movie on my xbr4's and elite

You using 1080/24p on your XBR4? What about CineMotion and Motion Enhancement settings?

And I'm not trolling, just trying to make sure my setup is optimum.

DefTechPioElite · 01-02-2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insane4

Hi folks. Got Simpsons for the holiday, and had a question.

A majority of the character movment has what almost looks like a jitter when they move. Nothing major, but noticeable. Is this normal? Am I being too picky? Looks great otherwise.

Setup:

PS3, w/ settings on Auto
XBR4
Movie is coming over at 1080/24p.

TIA!

I thought it looked perfect, I'm watching on a Samsung LNT4095 which is 1080p@60fps, so if anything yours should look smoother than mine. Are you forcing 24fps? I dont know that the Simpsons Movie was encoded at 24fps....? I dunno. I thought it looked great. Spider Pig ftw

TJones8124 · 01-02-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

See, it only took 7 posts! I KNEW IT! I am unsubscribing now.

He asked about the PQ on a movie. Truth of the matter is that EE is present. I don't know what your deal. If you have the movie, watch it. EE is something that I typically do not notice, but with all of the blues (sky/lake/etc) and the contrast between skin and black lines, it's all over the place. Different people react to EE differently. If you don't have the equipment or are not predisposed to see it, then great for you! Don't get all pissy if someone else notices it and points it out.

As to being a troll, supersix14, you've got to be joking. Keep in mind people can say negative things about a movie or a format that they strongly support. With all of the people frothing at the mouth to accuse someone of being a troll lately, I'm surprised any new posters post on this board at all. And while I may be a low count poster, I've been visiting this site since November of last year. Get over yourself and the troll accusations.

Pilam69 · 01-02-2008, 10:30 PM

The cinemotion is the LCD smoothing algorithm (it goes by many names depending on brand). I have heard (never seen mind you) that the smoothing function can sometimes cause more trouble than it is worth (relax, anecdotal evidence only and I'm sure as any new technology it will improve over time). I would try it both on and off and 24fps on and off and see if you still have the same problems................otherwise how will you know?

Gremal · 01-02-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJones8124

Different people react to EE differently.

Not really. The bigger issue is whether your display uses processing that creates edge effects via sharpening.

TJones8124 · 01-02-2008, 10:33 PM

Yes, but sharpening is something that can be eliminated via controls. Mine is reduced, and I've not noticed EE on other titles that I own. It is just noticable to me on the Simpson's.

01-02-2008, 08:26 PM	#1
insane4 Member Member since:Dec 2007	Simpsons PQ Hi folks. Got Simpsons for the holiday, and had a question. A majority of the character movment has what almost looks like a jitter when they move. Nothing major, but noticeable. Is this normal? Am I being too picky? Looks great otherwise. Setup: PS3, w/ settings on Auto XBR4 Movie is coming over at 1080/24p. TIA!

01-02-2008, 09:05 PM	#5
Pilam69 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray collection:126	No problems on my end...... Just watched it on our new plasma and it looked beautiful (had to try it out on the plasma, even at 720p WOW!!!). The transfer is almost too vivid. Quite simply amazing. No jaggies or blurring of any kind.

01-02-2008, 10:30 PM	#18
Pilam69 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray collection:126	Holy Overreaction Batman!!^^^ The cinemotion is the LCD smoothing algorithm (it goes by many names depending on brand). I have heard (never seen mind you) that the smoothing function can sometimes cause more trouble than it is worth (relax, anecdotal evidence only and I'm sure as any new technology it will improve over time). I would try it both on and off and 24fps on and off and see if you still have the same problems................otherwise how will you know?

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Blu-Style Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Германия	No, should all run smooth...

01-02-2008, 08:58 PM	#3
DrinkMore Banned Member since:Apr 2007 Location:That's What She Said! Blu-ray collection:140 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:3	Oh god, here it comes.

01-02-2008, 09:03 PM	#4
richard lichtenfelt Power Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:I'm not drunk, I'm just tired cause I been up all night drinking. Blu-ray reviews:3	The Simpson's got a 5 out of 5 rating for picture quality on every review I read. It is not the movies fault if you are experiencing difficulties.

01-02-2008, 09:07 PM	#6
ILLSQUAD2G Member Member since:Aug 2007	Hello, I would have to say this is the BEST PQ I HAVE SEEN YET. I will buy this movie to show off BLURAY ON MY 42"1080P TOSHIBA. It almost makes the characters appear in 3D Its outstanding. Your set may have a slow response time if its an LCD ? All I know is it looked PERFECT

01-02-2008, 09:15 PM	#7
TJones8124 Member Member since:Sep 2007	It does have noticable edge enhancement on a calibrated TV. If EE doesn't bother you, and you don't know what it is....don't look it up or learn about it. If you do, you'll start to notice it more and more.

01-02-2008, 09:15 PM	#8
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	do the people who are responding to this guy have 1080p/24??? i know toshiba has yet to get a 1080p/24 tv out on the market. i have watched movies on 1080p/24 and i think the motion looks weird. ive heard you need to turn off a setting thats called "movie smooth motion" or something like that (help, if anybody else knows what im talking about) and it fixes the weirdness in how things move. thats just what i heard, i got a 1080p/60 and it looked great. i could be totally wrong, but i think there is some validity in what i said, so look at your settings.

01-02-2008, 09:23 PM	#10
insane4 Member Member since:Dec 2007	Hmm... So I should turn off the 1080/24p and see what it looks like then? I think I've got that CineMotion thing turned off on my set, but I'll double-check. Should be perfectly smooth 100% tho? I'm not talking about the EE FYI.

01-02-2008, 09:55 PM	#13
DetroitSportsFan Hot Deals Moderator Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Michigan 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:2226 Trading Score:93	I'm in the market for 2 new TVs, but damn. All of this 1080/24, 1080/60, edge enhancement.... And I thought all I needed was 1080p.

01-02-2008, 10:33 PM	#20
TJones8124 Member Member since:Sep 2007	Yes, but sharpening is something that can be eliminated via controls. Mine is reduced, and I've not noticed EE on other titles that I own. It is just noticable to me on the Simpson's.

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