Quad HD - Blu-ray Forum

J_UNTITLED · 01-09-2008, 08:29 AM

Samsung is developing Quad HD - a resolution of 3840x2160, twice as sharp vertically and horizontally as the now-optimal 1080p. How likely is this going to be a reality considering consumers might find the ultra-high-defintion of the format needless/overblown?

WickyWoo · 01-09-2008, 09:06 AM

It's not intended for home use. It's for commercial installations

J_UNTITLED · 01-09-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

It's not intended for home use. It's for commercial installations

It could be someday, though..

Lord_Phan · 01-09-2008, 11:12 AM

considering you guys are writing this on a computer, you should know that 1080p is hardly a recent accomplishment. We've been high-def gaming on the PC for for longer then the DVD has been around. It's the physical mediums that were created and the capability of cable to transfer High-Def into your home that precipitated the creation of a market for the 1080p T.V.

It's not the T.V. Res that matters, it's the viability of the product in the marketplace.

P.S. for $1500 you could get a P.C. monitor at 2500*1500 cheers

gandley · 01-09-2008, 11:58 AM

15yrs and the next format.

J_UNTITLED · 01-09-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gandley

15yrs and the next format.

...Well, considering many people think digital downloads (either bought or rented) is the next big thing, one wonders if technology would be able to get up to that resolution via internet, cable or other in time.

Again, also there may be some who feel that amount of resolution is overkill and won't be interested. People don't like having to keep on re-purchasing their collection of home entertainment over and over again to say the least as well.

gandley · 01-09-2008, 12:13 PM

though they could add 36bit colour to the format etc etc etc. Not just the res boost alone.

Disc size would be massive though, 200MB minimum.

WickyWoo · 01-09-2008, 02:33 PM

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It could be someday, though..

Not likely.

kjack · 01-09-2008, 02:56 PM

It's getting interesting. Between higher resolution and higher refresh rates, you are watching mostly interpolated data rather than actual data.

lch · 01-09-2008, 03:53 PM

sony also have similar product at the ces 82" 4096 x 2160

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/artic...8&id=2460&pg=5

glenn22 · 01-09-2008, 03:59 PM

TVs with higher definition than 1080p will probably exist at some point, but look how long it's taking for people to even get into this generation of High Def.... if it happens, it's a long long way off.

dialog_gvf · 01-09-2008, 04:12 PM

Anyone want a radical idea?

Take Blu-ray (1080p). Add downloaded extra data to add extra detail for 4K. Mix and display in a special 4K player.

The extra data would be worthless on its own (just bits and pieces), so the Blu-ray disc would serve as an access card for the 4K format, and totally open servers could handle supplying the extra data (BitTorrents, etc.)

Gary

JimPullan · 01-09-2008, 04:13 PM

Doesn't the future really look nice !!! Now we just wait for the home version and a Blu-ray player outputting that level of resolution. Nirvana

[Jim]

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Originally Posted by lch

sony also have similar product at the ces 82" 4096 x 2160

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/artic...8&id=2460&pg=5

radagast · 01-09-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by glenn22

TVs with higher definition than 1080p will probably exist at some point, but look how long it's taking for people to even get into this generation of High Def.... if it happens, it's a long long way off.

If higher resolutions get specified by the FCC, it will make it harder for digital downloads to keep up.

saljr · 01-09-2008, 04:39 PM

By 2010-2011 it will be available for home. That just my opinoin. Tech now advance much faster now then it did 2-3 years ago.

Maximus · 01-09-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kjack

It's getting interesting. Between higher resolution and higher refresh rates, you are watching mostly interpolated data rather than actual data.

As long as the interpolation is decent, and I'm sure it will be if you have anything to do with it, I think we will be OK.

dialog_gvf · 01-09-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

As long as the interpolation is decent, and I'm sure it will be if you have anything to do with it, I think we will be OK.

Adding to my post about downloaded (or even streamed) fixup data. What if the interpolation matrix/code was defined, and only the mistakes were supplied for fixup?

If the interpolation is accurate, then the added detail takes up no space in the fixup. Only actual missing data or improperly interpolated (probably rather small for the vast majority of frames) would need to be supplied.

Gary

01-09-2008, 08:29 AM	#1
J_UNTITLED Power Member Member since:Jul 2006	Quad HD Samsung is developing Quad HD - a resolution of 3840x2160, twice as sharp vertically and horizontally as the now-optimal 1080p. How likely is this going to be a reality considering consumers might find the ultra-high-defintion of the format needless/overblown?

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01-09-2008, 09:06 AM	#2
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	It's not intended for home use. It's for commercial installations

01-09-2008, 11:12 AM	#4
Lord_Phan Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Brampton, On	considering you guys are writing this on a computer, you should know that 1080p is hardly a recent accomplishment. We've been high-def gaming on the PC for for longer then the DVD has been around. It's the physical mediums that were created and the capability of cable to transfer High-Def into your home that precipitated the creation of a market for the 1080p T.V. It's not the T.V. Res that matters, it's the viability of the product in the marketplace. P.S. for $1500 you could get a P.C. monitor at 2500*1500 cheers

01-09-2008, 11:58 AM	#5
gandley Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:The Drowning Pool	15yrs and the next format.

01-09-2008, 12:13 PM	#7
gandley Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:The Drowning Pool	though they could add 36bit colour to the format etc etc etc. Not just the res boost alone. Disc size would be massive though, 200MB minimum.

01-09-2008, 02:56 PM	#9
kjack Blu-ray Insider Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Milpitas, CA, USA	It's getting interesting. Between higher resolution and higher refresh rates, you are watching mostly interpolated data rather than actual data.

01-09-2008, 03:53 PM	#10
lch Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:103 Blu-ray collection:813 Blu-ray reviews:1	sony also have similar product at the ces 82" 4096 x 2160 http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/artic...8&id=2460&pg=5

01-09-2008, 03:59 PM	#11
glenn22 Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Vancouver, Canada	TVs with higher definition than 1080p will probably exist at some point, but look how long it's taking for people to even get into this generation of High Def.... if it happens, it's a long long way off.

01-09-2008, 04:12 PM	#12
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	Anyone want a radical idea? Take Blu-ray (1080p). Add downloaded extra data to add extra detail for 4K. Mix and display in a special 4K player. The extra data would be worthless on its own (just bits and pieces), so the Blu-ray disc would serve as an access card for the 4K format, and totally open servers could handle supplying the extra data (BitTorrents, etc.) Gary

01-09-2008, 04:39 PM	#15
saljr Active Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Stockton,California	By 2010-2011 it will be available for home. That just my opinoin. Tech now advance much faster now then it did 2-3 years ago.

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