Disney to release 4K titles

[Staying Salty]

Best Buy Preorder

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/.../m2224818.aspx

I started this thread because the Galaxy 2 thread will be filled with other Disney 4k talk. If mod doesn’t agree please delete this one.

[Vangeli]

Okay, Star Wars Original Theatrical Trilogy in 4K. It has to be or has been remastered, how far should they go?

They should totally touch up the VFX matte edges, it's not artistic intention, just a rough edge that can totally be fixed in a remaster. So handful of CG tweaks here and there to improve the original intent is fine, but completely adding CG creatures and obstructive garbage like the special editions is a no-no.

Nothing too excessive as the special editions, I suppose. However, I'm torn with lightsabers being updated to match the modern look. That's the only "big" tweak I'd like to see, if only to bring a little uniformity between movies, but I know the reaction would be incredibly divisive.

Updated lightsabers, yes or no?

[pottyaboutpotter1]

I think what we're likely to get this year besides Guardians is:

Beauty and the Beast
Captain America: Civil War
Cars 3
Doctor Strange
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Maybe the Original Star Wars trilogy if we're lucky. It'll be the 2010 edition of the films though, since Lucasfilm confirmed their 4K scan of the films is that version.

We might get Moana too.

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by pottyaboutpotter1

...Maybe the Original Star Wars trilogy if we're lucky. It'll be the 2010 edition of the films though, since Lucasfilm confirmed their 4K scan of the films is that version.

...

Say what?

Been searching for this for almost 20 minutes and haven't found it, only that there is an official 4K restoration of A New Hope and Gareth Edwards leaked that it exists.

[Geoff D]

The whole trilogy was restored in 4K: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post13314770

[DJJez]

amazing news!!! this will push the format WAY ahead!

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The whole trilogy was restored in 4K: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post13314770

Still no official word on what versions, though.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

Still no official word on what versions, though.

They won't be the original versions IMO, that ship has sailed. Maybe when Disney get most of the distribution rights back in 2020 they'll go overboard with promoting it, otherwise we gotta wait until Lucas is dead because that's the only other possible reason I can think of for LFL and Disney to continue to neglect these pieces of cinematic history in their original forms.

But Pablo Hidalgo tweeted that the 4K version that Edwards saw (they also screened Empire too according to the DP) was "George's version" (Special Edition) restored by Lowry in 2012, in case you were after actual proof as to what Edwards viewed: https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/sta...03566453997569

[Ihavecandygetnthevan]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

Still no official word on what versions, though.

The original cuts ain't happening so that should narrow it down for everyone

[Vangeli]

I figure 2020 is the time; Disney can then buy the remaining ANH rights back from Fox and do whatever they want with everything.

I'd love to see the theatrical editions remastered in 4K but I'm not holding my breath. Just have to wait and see. It'd be interesting to see the Prequel Trilogy in UHD HDR. Episode I can get a 4K remaster as it was film, and Episode II and III would be upscales but I bet III would look AMAZING with HDR. And Force Awakens and all them too, of course.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

I figure 2020 is the time; Disney can then buy the remaining ANH rights back from Fox and do whatever they want with everything.

I'd love to see the theatrical editions remastered in 4K but I'm not holding my breath. Just have to wait and see. It'd be interesting to see the Prequel Trilogy in UHD HDR. Episode I can get a 4K remaster as it was film, and Episode II and III would be upscales but I bet III would look AMAZING with HDR. And Force Awakens and all them too, of course.

That's a no on Episode I, at least as far as any cost-effective means of remastering are concerned. Practically every shot in the entire film has a digital effect so its finished 'record' is the 2K master as it exists today, this is why the 3D conversion went back to the film-out tapes (digital records used to laser out the completed VFX shots back to film) rather than the negative itself.

That's not to say that it would NEVER get redone in so much as any other movie finished in 2K and shot on film could get such an upgrade, but given the volume of CG work (2000 shots) that would need to be redone entirely from scratch (John Knoll said that ILM can't run those files any more) then the project would cost many millions to accomplish.

[Vangeli]

Oh, I thought it was finished on film and they could just do a 4K scan of that. It doesn't necessarily matter, many CGI shots looked like upscaled 480p anyway, 2K isn't bad. (Wasn't Episode II 1080p? Eeek...)

It seems unlikely they'd do a UHD HDR release of the prequels but if they do the original trilogy and the new trilogy then it makes sense, completing the 4K collection.

[jcs913]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

Best Buy Preorder

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/.../m2224818.aspx

I started this thread because the Galaxy 2 thread will be filled with other Disney 4k talk. If mod doesn’t agree please delete this one.

I would not trust anything BB posts for a pre-order. Remember the RE 3D fiasco.

[shinobipopcorn]

Honest question: why would someone want to see Star Wars (IV) in 4K, garbage mattes and all?

I'm glad Disney is finally going for 4K, but at the same time, I don't want them wasting their time putting something like the theatrical Star Wars on the format. Rogue One? YES. OT? A good blu-ray is fine for that. It will get me shot around here but I even think a good DVD is fine for that. (Those LD transfers are what you would NOT consider a good DVD.)

[TM2-Megatron]

This is good news, if true. GotG 2 will be an amazing first UHD release for Disney.

Originally Posted by Ihavecandygetnthevan

The original cuts ain't happening so that should narrow it down for everyone

And save me some money, too. Seeing the SEs once during their original theatrical runs was one too many times.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

Oh, I thought it was finished on film and they could just do a 4K scan of that. It doesn't necessarily matter, many CGI shots looked like upscaled 480p anyway, 2K isn't bad. (Wasn't Episode II 1080p? Eeek...)

It seems unlikely they'd do a UHD HDR release of the prequels but if they do the original trilogy and the new trilogy then it makes sense, completing the 4K collection.

II and III were both shot on 1080p CineAlta and finished in industry-spec 2K although Sith used MUCH better iterations of the cameras (same type as used on Avatar, in fact). On Clones they shot in subsampled Rec.709 but Sith was proper 12-bit 4:4:4 and it shows even on Blu-ray, with the third prequel by far the best looking one of the lot.

I'd buy the shit out of a UHD prequels set.

[TM2-Megatron]

Originally Posted by shinobipopcorn

Honest question: why would someone want to see Star Wars (IV) in 4K, garbage mattes and all?

Some would ask why someone would want to watch IV, V and VI with garbage cartoons shoved into every possible frame.

In the end, it comes down to personal taste. Plenty of my most beloved old films have so-called "garbage" mattes, and it doesn't bother me because the films themselves are amazing (and/or hilarious schlock). Personally, I believe both versions of the original trilogy should be available, as is the case for virtually every other film for which a director's, extended or otherwise-alternate cut exists.

That said, I don't object to going back and digitally cleaning up something as minor as matte lines. I love TNG remastered, for instance, and that compositing work was completely redone digitally from the original elements; the end result was jaw-dropping. The nonsensical addition of CG in Star Wars bothers me, however... and not even good CG, but some of the s**ttiest, most dated garbage CG I've ever seen.

Plus, all that work and all those fruitless man hours that went into the SEs, and they've never gone back and fixed that stupid vaseline-looking blob on the Emperor's cloak in RotJ. Just.... ugh.

[Uncanny]

I hope this is true, but going by a Canadian Best Buy website?

[shinobipopcorn]

Originally Posted by TM2-Megatron

That said, I don't object to going back and digitally cleaning up something as minor as matte lines. I love TNG remastered, for instance, and that compositing work was completely redone digitally from the original elements; the end result was jaw-dropping. The nonsensical addition of CG in Star Wars bothers me, however... and not even good CG, but some of the s**ttiest, most dated garbage CG I've ever seen.

I've only seen the sampler and All Good Things, but the work on TNG was pretty darn good.

[legends of beyond]

I'll remain cautiously optimistic do now. I need more than a BB Canadian webpage, but at the same time, I do want this to be real, but I must remain realistic, but...