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Old 04-11-2020, 01:23 AM   #1
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These three come to mind immediately:

Goldfinger:

Goldfinger goes to great lengths to give an elaborate presentation to a bunch of hoods that he wants to join him in a scheme to "knock off Fort Knox". One of them, Mr. Solo, declines his offer and leaves the premises, while the others remain and indicate pretty clearly that they are willing to go along with the heist. Then, every one of them are gassed to their deaths. The question is, of course, why did Goldfinger go through with such a detailed dog-and-pony show if he was just going to kill them anyway, even though they were amenable to the plan? Makes no sense.

Aliens:

Ripley rescues Newt from being cocooned and is carrying her out when she discovers the lair of the Alien queen. Her and Newt are under a considerable time constraint, since the entire planet is going to be nuked within a few minutes, but Ripley takes the time to destroy the eggs and numerous Aliens, pissing off the queen who comes after them while they desperately run out. The question is, of course, why did Ripley bother to waste time and effort with her endeavors and making it much more perilous for her and Newt to get out, when she could have just gotten out without being pursued by the queen and made it on to the ship with time to spare, when the planet and the Aliens were going to be blown to kingdom come anyway? Makes no sense.

A Few Good Men:

This one isn't as questionable as the first two but, to me anyway, it never seemed to make sense. In the final courtroom scene, Kaffee makes it clear to Col. Jessep that he is willing to call two Airmen to the stand to testify that Santiago could have been flown off the base the previous evening rather than having to wait until the next morning for a flight. Even though Kaffee is bluffing, it obviously has Jessep nervous, since he knows that the earlier flight WAS available and he went to the trouble of having the record of the flight removed from the logbooks. What I never understood is this: even though it made Jessep nervous, and even though it may have cast doubt on the honesty of Jessep if it was indeed proven that there was an earlier flight, it does NOTHING to prove that Jessep ordered the code red, which was what Kaffee was trying to prove in the first place. There is no jury, I believe, that would have made that connection without additional proof, which Kaffee did not have, and his bluff contributed nothing to Jessep fessing up. Makes no sense to me.
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Old 04-11-2020, 03:03 AM   #2
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These three come to mind immediately:

Goldfinger:

Goldfinger goes to great lengths to give an elaborate presentation to a bunch of hoods that he wants to join him in a scheme to "knock off Fort Knox". One of them, Mr. Solo, declines his offer and leaves the premises, while the others remain and indicate pretty clearly that they are willing to go along with the heist. Then, every one of them are gassed to their deaths. The question is, of course, why did Goldfinger go through with such a detailed dog-and-pony show if he was just going to kill them anyway, even though they were amenable to the plan? Makes no sense.

Aliens:

Ripley rescues Newt from being cocooned and is carrying her out when she discovers the lair of the Alien queen. Her and Newt are under a considerable time constraint, since the entire planet is going to be nuked within a few minutes, but Ripley takes the time to destroy the eggs and numerous Aliens, pissing off the queen who comes after them while they desperately run out. The question is, of course, why did Ripley bother to waste time and effort with her endeavors and making it much more perilous for her and Newt to get out, when she could have just gotten out without being pursued by the queen and made it on to the ship with time to spare, when the planet and the Aliens were going to be blown to kingdom come anyway? Makes no sense.

A Few Good Men:

This one isn't as questionable as the first two but, to me anyway, it never seemed to make sense. In the final courtroom scene, Kaffee makes it clear to Col. Jessep that he is willing to call two Airmen to the stand to testify that Santiago could have been flown off the base the previous evening rather than having to wait until the next morning for a flight. Even though Kaffee is bluffing, it obviously has Jessep nervous, since he knows that the earlier flight WAS available and he went to the trouble of having the record of the flight removed from the logbooks. What I never understood is this: even though it made Jessep nervous, and even though it may have cast doubt on the honesty of Jessep if it was indeed proven that there was an earlier flight, it does NOTHING to prove that Jessep ordered the code red, which was what Kaffee was trying to prove in the first place. There is no jury, I believe, that would have made that connection without additional proof, which Kaffee did not have, and his bluff contributed nothing to Jessep fessing up. Makes no sense to me.
The best explanation for the Aliens scene, aside from the fact that James Cameron is a lousy writer, would be Ripley being compelled to destroy the eggs by her PTSD from the Nostromo incident.
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Old 04-11-2020, 03:14 AM   #3
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This could go on forever...practically 90 % of the movies ever made have something that makes no logical sense. Thats movies. Don't even get into horror films lol.
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Old 04-11-2020, 03:20 AM   #4
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That's very funny I just saw aliens last night for the first time in about a year and I thought the same exact thing.

And the idea that she just so desperately wanted to see them die that she started shooting and burning them makes no sense because she knew very well that the whole place was going to blow up in less than 10 minutes so she was going to be assured that the entire colony of aliens was going to be wiped out in the nuclear explosion anyway.

As for the Goldfinger I guess he's just a sadist and his ego wanted to explain to somebody besides his own lackeys his clever plan. So he tells them and they all agree and it boosts his ego and then he kills them because he's a sadist.
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Old 04-11-2020, 03:24 AM   #5
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The Rise of Skywalker

When Rey stops at a random spot on a cliff and holds up an ancient Sith dagger to the horizon and its edges line up just so with a random chunk of the wreckage of the Death Star which appeared to be exploded into molecules a mere 30 years ago pointing the way to the Sith wayfinder in Palpatine’s office. Every single aspect of the preceding sentence broke my brain.
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Old 04-11-2020, 03:25 AM   #6
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Any movie that has a music score: where is that music coming from?
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Old 04-11-2020, 03:49 AM   #7
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Who's to say the Queen in Aliens wouldn't have followed Ripley even without killing her babies and followers? Yes, time was limited but she'd have to turn her back away from the Queen eventually. She was probably thinking of protecting themselves in a worst case scenario. Preventing a strength in numbers. Also, until that point, no living human had seen the Queen before. There was no telling how it would behave. Aliens is a masterpiece, leave it alone!
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:32 AM   #8
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Star Wars E2: Attack of the Clones: Anakin uses 1 lightsaber throughout the movie. It is pretty clear he trains with 1 lightsaber. It is pretty clear he uses 1 lightsaber. Then what does he do during the climactic duel with Tyranus? He force-grabs Obi-Wan's lightsaber and begins the duel double handed.

It makes no sense to me that he radically changed his fighting style at the moment of truth.
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:40 AM   #9
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The stupid part was that Ripley started blasting the eggs instead of first killing the queen who is attached to the ceiling and has limited movement so why not just blast her first then use the flamethrower on the eggs? The scene really doesn't make any sense from a mental or tactical standpoint. I could believe that she was obsessed with the thought of killing the Queen's children because she had lost her own real daughter but at that point in the movie she was 100% obcessed with Newt.
Once she had Newt she could have blasted the queen and just took off or just took off but she instead kill the eggs and leaves the largest alien of them all alive to chase her and Newt?
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Star Wars E2: Attack of the Clones: Anakin uses 1 lightsaber throughout the movie. It is pretty clear he trains with 1 lightsaber. It is pretty clear he uses 1 lightsaber. Then what does he do during the climactic duel with Tyranus? He force-grabs Obi-Wan's lightsaber and begins the duel double handed.

It makes no sense to me that he radically changed his fighting style at the moment of truth.
I was thinking "casting Hayden Christiansen" when I started reading it. But your thoughts make sense too!
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:59 AM   #11
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2 scenes I love and am glad they're in both films.
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RE: Aliens - Ripley doesn't know what triggers the eggs opening, so as far as she's concerned, they actually do represent her biggest threat once the warriors are backed off by the queen. Once she's at it, and sees the queen freaking out, Ripley wants to make her suffer: So she specifically does not kill her, but destroys the eggs and the egg sack so she can leave the queen surrounded by defeat and the death of her hive while she waits to die in the impending explosion.

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Sure her big goal is to make the queen suffer and not hurry out of there to save newt and herself and also possibly Hicks who who implied he would not leave without her when she went to rescue newt.

Her actions for 100% logical in that scene.

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Why is it in the movie [fill in the blank], the villain [fill in the blank] has the hero [fill in the blank] helpless and at his mercy, but instead of just killing him, he spends the next few minutes explaining in great detail to the hero about his evil plan to [fill in the blank], giving the hero enough time to figure out a way to either fight back or escape and thwart the plan.
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Why is it in the movie [fill in the blank], the villain [fill in the blank] has the hero [fill in the blank] helpless and at his mercy, but instead of just killing him, he spends the next few minutes explaining in great detail to the hero about his evil plan to [fill in the blank], giving the hero enough time to figure out a way to either fight back or escape and thwart the plan.
That is one of the worst tropes in movies and television without a doubt and probably one that does not happen too often in real life.

I recently watched the first two seasons of The Wild Wild West and in the 56 episodes shown James West and or Artemus Gordon were captured at least 75 different times, which means they were captured more than once per episode on a lot of occasions and every single time the villain fails to kill them when they are at their Mercy. It's just laughably stupid after a while. Especially when at some point they become infamous with their cleverness and their gimmicks and their Gizmos. The villains know James West by name sometimes and how resourceful he is but when they capture him they set up some stupid elaborate method I'm trying to kill him which fails every single time. And after a while it kind of makes James West look incompetent because he gets captured 1.5 times per episode.
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Was it Blazing Saddles that had an orchestra in a bus?
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Was it Blazing Saddles that had an orchestra in a bus?

High Anxiety. Blazing Saddles had Count Basie and his orchestra in the desert.
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When Rey stops at a random spot on a cliff and holds up an ancient Sith dagger to the horizon and its edges line up just so with a random chunk of the wreckage of the Death Star which appeared to be exploded into molecules a mere 30 years ago pointing the way to the Sith wayfinder in Palpatine’s office. Every single aspect of the preceding sentence broke my brain.
Why do you assume it's ancient?
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The Rise of Skywalker

When Rey stops at a random spot on a cliff and holds up an ancient Sith dagger to the horizon and its edges line up just so with a random chunk of the wreckage of the Death Star which appeared to be exploded into molecules a mere 30 years ago pointing the way to the Sith wayfinder in Palpatine’s office. Every single aspect of the preceding sentence broke my brain.
Some stupid ass shit right there from the writers
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