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Old 01-07-2008, 01:02 PM   #1
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Default Hdmi 1.3a and a.3b what's the difference?

Can anyone tell me what is the difference between 1.3a and 1.3b?

I heard it was dat a is for consumers, and it has 19 pollars while the 1.3b is used for professionals with 29 pollars.

if this is tru will 1 be able to use a 1.3b cable with my ps3 and my onkyo 705.

I want to know this because i live in the netherlands and all the 1.3 hdmi cables i can find cost about 60 to 80 euros. However on the internet i found one for 30 euros but the website indicates that the cable is 1.3b certifed.

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Old 01-07-2008, 01:09 PM   #2
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From Wikipedia:

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The HDMI Specification has expanded to include three connectors, each intended for different markets.

The standard Type A HDMI connector has 19 pins, with bandwidth to support all SDTV, EDTV and HDTV modes and more. The plug outside dimensions are 13.9 mm wide by 4.45 mm high. Type A is electrically compatible with single-link DVI-D.

A higher resolution version called Type B is defined in HDMI 1.0. Type B has 29 pins (21.2 mm wide), allowing it to carry an expanded video channel for use with very high-resolution future displays, such as WQSXGA (3200x2048). Type B is electrically compatible with dual-link DVI-D, but is not in general use.

The Type C mini-connector is intended for portable devices. It is smaller than Type A (10.42 mm by 2.42 mm) but has the same 19-pin configuration.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:12 PM   #3
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so i a way you say, i can't use a 13.b certifed cable with my ps3 and onkyo 705?
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:34 PM   #4
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Sure you can. HDMI 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc are determined by the attached equipment, not the cables
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:46 PM   #5
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Thanks,

But i'am not wondering about the 1.1 , 1.2 or the 1.3
But about the a or b

i heard that for instance 1.1a or 1.3a is for consumers and 1.1b or 1.3b is for professional use so it's not compatible with for instance my ps3 or onkyo 705.
this is due to the a certified cables has 19 pollar plus and the b certified cables have 29. so the hdmi plug is bigger.

i'am wondering if that is tru, because i never heard of it before.
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:20 PM   #6
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HDMI 1.0, 1.1, 1.2/1.2a, 1.3/1.3a/1.3b TYPE A is for consumers which has 19-pins and is the type of cable you will find in any consumer electronics store.

TYPE B has 29 pins and is made for higher resolutions than 1080p and is mostly used in commercial applications.
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i doubt it has 29 pins and 1.3a does higher then 1080p anyways
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Either way the connection is the same - go for the cheaper chord.
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Can anyone tell me what is the difference between 1.3a and 1.3b?

I heard it was dat a is for consumers, and it has 19 pollars while the 1.3b is used for professionals with 29 pollars.

if this is tru will 1 be able to use a 1.3b cable with my ps3 and my onkyo 705.

I want to know this because i live in the netherlands and all the 1.3 hdmi cables i can find cost about 60 to 80 euros. However on the internet i found one for 30 euros but the website indicates that the cable is 1.3b certifed.

Thanks
This came up a while ago. HDMI 1.3b is just a more tightly specified version of HDMI 1.3. HDMI 1.3b is better than 1.3a, so 1.3b certified cables will work just fine with 1.3a or earlier stuff.
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:11 PM   #10
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The type A connector and the type B connector are not really related to the different HDMI versions. The standards for both connectors were established way back with HDMI V1.0. The common connector is connector A, and is equivalent to the DVI single link, which has a single set of three TMDS channels (data 0,1 & 2). Connector B is equivalent to DVI dual link, which has a second set of TMDS channels (data 3, 4 & 5). This is only used for very high resolution displays, typically above 1920x1200@60Hz. Dual link DVI connectors and cables are pretty standard, but I’ve never heard of HDMI connector B being used for anything, but in any case its effectively superceded by HDMI V1.3a with connector A.

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Old 01-08-2008, 02:42 PM   #11
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so is type A/B somthing deferent than the 1.3a or 1.3b indicates?
so can you have a hdmi cable 1.3b Type a ?
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i doubt it has 29 pins and 1.3a does higher then 1080p anyways
Your trying to doubt a FACT my friend, what are you, a HD-DUD follower lol

Jokes aside, HDMI 1.3a is 19 pin & can be used in current TVs & the like but a 29 pin 1.3b connection can't as it's too big & cannot be inserted into the standard HDMI slot on a TV
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Your trying to doubt a FACT my friend, what are you, a HD-DUD follower lol

Jokes aside, HDMI 1.3a is 19 pin & can be used in current TVs & the like but a 29 pin 1.3b connection can't as it's too big & cannot be inserted into the standard HDMI slot on a TV
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:50 AM   #14
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I found this cable, and and want to buy it
but it is a 1.3b.

so can i use it. i think i can.

1M ( 3 FEET ) ATLONA FLAT HDMI CABLE HDMI 1.3b. MODEL: AT14031B-1

Description:
This Flat HDMI cable is designed to ensure a perfect transfer of digital video and multi-channel audio signal. Manufacturing process employs industrial quality components that are rated by UL under the CL2 standard for in-wall installations. Made of High-Purity Oxygen Free Copper (OFC), the conductor has a very high conductivity, low signal loss and degradation and low electric resistance. All of these result in great signal transmission. Superior High-Density triple shielding technology will reject EM and RF interference, while gold plated connectors will ensure a tight grip. Because of the flat design, the crosstalk between conductors is greatly reduced. Unlike all “round” HDMI cables, this Flat HDMI cable is also great for “on the wall” applications. Since it's flat, it would be barely visible! Cable is CL2 Rated for professional in-wall applications. ROhS Rated.

Applications:
Ideal for running in the walls and on the walls. Primarily used to connect DVD players, satellite and cable boxes, LCD's, projectors, Plasma displays, HDTV's and much more.

Specs:

1m (3ft) Flat HDMI (twisted pair) construction
HDMI 1.3b certified
Supported Resolutions: HDTV (all resolutions up to 1440p) Computer: (all resolutions up to WQXGA 2560x1600)
Single-link bandwidth: 387 MHz (over 10.2 Gbit/s)
Digital Audio: supports all digital audio formats including Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio
24k Gold plated connectors
28AWG High-Purity Oxygen Free Copper conductors
High-Density triple shielding for maximum rejection of EMI and RFI
ROHS Rated
UL CL2 Certified
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That sounds just fine, but may be overkill for one metre. A no-name cable costing five buck, quid, euros, whatever will almost certainly be just fine for 1080p60 over one metre.

If it's certified to HDMI V1.3b, it will probably be as good (and as expensive) as you can get. The spec says it's single link bandwidth - 10.2 Gbps, and that means that it is connector A.

For reference, Connector A has 19 pins, and is the only connector that has ever been used in consumer equipment.

Connector B has 29 pins and double the capacity of connector A, but no CE equipment uses it.

regards, Nick

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Thanks Nick!

It's the cheapest 1.3 hdmi cable i can find for the Netherlands. If i go to my local store i have to pay about 80 euro's for a 1 m hdmi 1.3 cable.

If i import this cable it wil only kost mu about 40 euro's so i can get 2 for the price of one!

It's a shame that monoprice doesn't ship to the Netherlands.
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im sure if you know or ask someone to ship it to their house and then yours they would but i have no idea what it would cost
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wel that is the problem i don't know anyone who lives in the usa,

but on the other hand it will be less expensive, if i knew someone in the usa and have them send it to me.
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wel that is the problem i don't know anyone who lives in the usa,

but on the other hand it will be less expensive, if i knew someone in the usa and have them send it to me.
I could send some monoprice HDMI 1.3 cables to you from Canada if you were able to paypal me what they would cost.

Just send me a PM.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:50 PM   #20
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thanks for the offor! it seems i was inpatient because i already order the atalon cables
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