Early BD's that haven't aged well - Blu-ray Forum

LMFAObros · 10-30-2020, 08:12 PM

What are some discs from the early days of the format that looked good at the time but nowadays don't look very good.
Some include for me Con Air, interview with the Vampire, Transporter and others.

Frank9080 · 10-30-2020, 08:21 PM

Does Reindeer Games count?

1924 · 10-30-2020, 09:32 PM

Damn near all of them. Also depends ho early you are talking about

Jay H. · 10-30-2020, 09:35 PM

The consensus seems to be, if it is more than three years old, it needs a fresh scan. Even if it still looks and sounds excellent.

DukeTogo84 · 10-30-2020, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay H.

The consensus seems to be, if it is more than three years old, it needs a fresh scan. Even if it still looks and sounds excellent.

It feels like more like one year based on some responses here.

Monterey Jack · 10-31-2020, 01:52 AM

Sleepy Hollow.

James Luckard · 10-31-2020, 02:42 AM

It's amazing to look back on reviews from the beginning of the format, when blurry old 1080p transfers only intended for use on DVDs were being dumped onto BD and people were drooling over them.

The bar has been raised over a decade into the format.

That said, there are some early BDs that still hold up.

Dailyan · 10-31-2020, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by James Luckard

when blurry old 1080p transfers only intended for use on DVDs were being dumped onto BD and people were drooling over them.

Hell some labels/studios are still doing that.

AgentOrange · 10-31-2020, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay H.

The consensus seems to be, if it is more than three years old, it needs a fresh scan. Even if it still looks and sounds excellent.

In terms of catalog there's probably very little from the first few years of the format that holds up (so I guess 2006-2010'ish?). Some of the new films early to the format probably hold up OK, but catalog not so much.

At some point studios did start getting a clue about how not to use DNR and started investing more in new remasters (rather than dumping old DVD masters onto blu-ray). Though all of the labels still occasionally release a dud for one reason or another.

tangerinewolf · 10-31-2020, 03:14 AM

The Exorcist. New releases, but same old master.

DukeTogo84 · 10-31-2020, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tangerinewolf

The Exorcist. New releases, but same old master.

I guess I'm going to be that guy here, but the 2010 release of the Exorcist looks good. Not only good, but damn good. Watched it a few months ago for the first time and would have guessed it was recently remastered.

GeoffOliver · 10-31-2020, 03:26 AM

Sleepy Hollow, The Mask, Crash (2005), and Reservoir Dogs haven't been reissued since their original 2006-2008 Blu-rays, and boy do they need it.

WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW · 10-31-2020, 03:56 AM

The Craft

revgen · 10-31-2020, 12:51 PM

Basic Instinct

Even the French HD-DVD was better.

bergman864 · 10-31-2020, 12:58 PM

The early Warner releases. No menu before the film, pop menu only, were pretty terrible. Most of them had dated masters, VC-1 encodes it seemed, and low bitrates.

Jobla · 10-31-2020, 09:28 PM

THE ABYSS isn't even on Blu-ray, and the DVD is from a 1990 era laserdisc master.

And yet, James Cameron is considered "the high tech guru." What a joke.

malakaheso · 11-01-2020, 03:16 AM

The list is too long. Most discs released before 2010 don't look great to me. When buying discs now, I tend to be a little suspicious of ones released before 2012/13. Seems like an arbitrary cutoff, but I did notice that more releases around that time came from new 2K or 4K restorations.

Streetlight · 11-01-2020, 03:31 AM

The Dark Knight is the ultimate example. When the blu-rays came out, people raved about how its blu-ray transfer "IZ TEH BEST". As time passes and people's opinion about edge-enhancement declined, now people are denouncing the transfer as edge-enhanced trash, especially since the 4K Blu-ray came out.

SpazeBlue · 11-01-2020, 03:42 AM

All of them. Blu-ray has never looked good. Laserdisc for life.

KINGDANGER · 11-01-2020, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

Sleepy Hollow.

I'm watching this right now on a 75" and couldn't agree more.

10-30-2020, 08:12 PM	#1
LMFAObros Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2016 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:73 Trading Score:10	Early BD's that haven't aged well What are some discs from the early days of the format that looked good at the time but nowadays don't look very good. Some include for me Con Air, interview with the Vampire, Transporter and others.

10-30-2020, 08:21 PM	#2
Frank9080 Active Member Member since:Oct 2011 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:3781 Trading Score:63	Does Reindeer Games count?

10-30-2020, 09:32 PM	#3
1924 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2014	Damn near all of them. Also depends ho early you are talking about

10-30-2020, 09:35 PM	#4
Jay H. Blu-ray Baron Member since:Oct 2019 Trading Score:2	The consensus seems to be, if it is more than three years old, it needs a fresh scan. Even if it still looks and sounds excellent.

10-31-2020, 01:52 AM	#6
Monterey Jack Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Oct 2011 Trading Score:709	Sleepy Hollow.

10-31-2020, 02:42 AM	#7
James Luckard Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:397 Blu-ray collection:1806 Blu-ray reviews: 34	It's amazing to look back on reviews from the beginning of the format, when blurry old 1080p transfers only intended for use on DVDs were being dumped onto BD and people were drooling over them. The bar has been raised over a decade into the format. That said, there are some early BDs that still hold up.

10-31-2020, 03:14 AM	#10
tangerinewolf Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2019 Location:Massachusetts, USA Trading Score:1	The Exorcist. New releases, but same old master.

10-31-2020, 03:26 AM	#12
GeoffOliver Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2014 Location:Atlanta GA 4K collection:259 Blu-ray collection:1505 DVD collection:332	Sleepy Hollow, The Mask, Crash (2005), and Reservoir Dogs haven't been reissued since their original 2006-2008 Blu-rays, and boy do they need it.

10-31-2020, 03:56 AM	#13
WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 4K collection:751 Blu-ray collection:2324 DVD collection:279 Blu-ray reviews:7	The Craft

10-31-2020, 12:51 PM	#14
revgen Power Member Member since:Oct 2013 Location:Southern California, USA Trading Score:17	Basic Instinct Even the French HD-DVD was better.

10-31-2020, 12:58 PM	#15
bergman864 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 4K collection:505 Blu-ray collection:1217 DVD collection:25 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:15	The early Warner releases. No menu before the film, pop menu only, were pretty terrible. Most of them had dated masters, VC-1 encodes it seemed, and low bitrates.

10-31-2020, 09:28 PM	#16
Jobla Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Boulevard of Broken Dreams	THE ABYSS isn't even on Blu-ray, and the DVD is from a 1990 era laserdisc master. And yet, James Cameron is considered "the high tech guru." What a joke.

11-01-2020, 03:16 AM	#17
malakaheso Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2013 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:103 Blu-ray collection:1057 DVD collection:293	The list is too long. Most discs released before 2010 don't look great to me. When buying discs now, I tend to be a little suspicious of ones released before 2012/13. Seems like an arbitrary cutoff, but I did notice that more releases around that time came from new 2K or 4K restorations.

11-01-2020, 03:31 AM	#18
Streetlight Special Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2019	The Dark Knight is the ultimate example. When the blu-rays came out, people raved about how its blu-ray transfer "IZ TEH BEST". As time passes and people's opinion about edge-enhancement declined, now people are denouncing the transfer as edge-enhanced trash, especially since the 4K Blu-ray came out.

11-01-2020, 03:42 AM	#19
SpazeBlue Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2019 Location:Idahoe 4K collection:117 Blu-ray collection:211 Blu-ray reviews:2	All of them. Blu-ray has never looked good. Laserdisc for life.

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