Red ants re-energized with Super Upscaling idea - Blu-ray Forum

HeavyHitter · 03-05-2008, 10:54 PM

Just take a look at the usual forums - more notably AVS - and you'll find the usual suspects at it once again (Drunken Tivo Dealer and Lee Stewart coming immediately to mind). They are now hyping this new so-called Super Upscaling that Toshiba mentioned in the WSJ article and how it might take off.

Some on there are now saying many Blu-rays don't even look better than SD DVD anyway.

These guys never go too low I guess.

Jim L · 03-05-2008, 11:09 PM

I was reading an article over at hollywoodinhidef.com that linked to a CNET article about why Toshiba will release a Blu-ray player this year.

Guess what? The very first reply to the article was by none other than DeadMeatGA (whom I'm sure many of you recognize) and he was praising the wonders of SUC (super upconversion).

CNET article here

It's funny how these deluded people can jump on anything with such zeal just because they (supposedly) hate Blu-ray!

Who are they, really?

Viral marketers from a certain software company?
Angry cheapskate XBox 360 owners who believed all the lies and got burned?
Rabid Sony-haters?
All the above?

I really don't understand it --- really. It is completely irrational.

95pgtproject · 03-05-2008, 11:14 PM

yeah Toshiba is gonna do magical upscaling that makes dvd HD now so there is no need to HDM anymore and they made HD dvd just to waist time until there magical upscalers are ready

I cant stand hd dvd fan boys, if its not downloading is the HD future its super upscaling. Anything to avoid Blu LMAO

Whats next VHS upscaled downloads

dialog_gvf · 03-05-2008, 11:14 PM

The TiVo guy describes HIMSELF as the biggest independent Toshiba dealer in the USA. He's just selling his wares. And he's doing so under a AVS approved "insider" and "expert" guise.

Say, Bill Gates, which is better: Windows Vista or Mac OSX? Wow, well you're an expert so I guess it MUST be Vista.

Gary

dialog_gvf · 03-05-2008, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim L

Who are they, really?

Viral marketers from a certain software company?
Angry cheapskate XBox 360 owners who believed all the lies and got burned?
Rabid Sony-haters?
All the above?

DeadmeatGA is a definite rabid Sony-hater (he also has a posting history where he shows he hates jews and blacks too, BTW). I sure hope he isn't paid by anyone to spew his garbage.

Gary

Monkey · 03-05-2008, 11:17 PM

"Toshiba Super Up-Conversion Promo"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMoFQI5TTzY

MatrixS2000 · 03-05-2008, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Red ants re-energized with Super Upscaling idea

Their HDM format failed, so now they push something with even LESS PQ and no chance of upscaling audio.

So they go from half of the full HD experience with HD DVD (most titles missing lossless codec) to basically a quarter of the full HD experience (upconverted video and still no lossless audio).

Wow - these guys are truly visionaries of the future!

Blubaru · 03-05-2008, 11:28 PM

these red ants just won't stop.

They are like a bad case of herpes that just won't go away.

RUR · 03-05-2008, 11:30 PM

Been reading the threads... The best bit from Lee was this:

Quote:

Why are you obsessed with a disc format?

Truly priceless coming from the guy who made 25 posts a day, day in and day out, obsessing over the benefits of HD DVD.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post13298004
Thread's now locked.

WickyWoo · 03-05-2008, 11:32 PM

I think it's half that a bunch moved on to the next paycheck, and a bunch of people still want to go with the scorched earth policy

xtop · 03-05-2008, 11:34 PM

some crazy stuff from fanboys, seems as i get older they get more crazy

mgonzo2u · 03-05-2008, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUR

Been reading the threads... The best bit from Lee was this:

Truly priceless coming from the guy who made 25 posts a day, day in and day out, obsessing over the benefits of HD DVD.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post13298004
Thread's now locked.

Were you able to put that statement about his mad posting about HDDUD in there before it locked?

Spankey · 03-06-2008, 01:26 AM

If AVS had any credibility left that kind of garbage would be moved from any HD areas and stuck in the SD DVD section. Wonder how long some sane HD-DVD owners finally come to their senses and see these fools for what they are. Paid shills.

Cplhicks · 03-06-2008, 01:49 AM

Honestly why any red fanboys would continue to support Toshiba after they backstabbed and insulted them ("Oh, HD doesn't matter anyway"-- then why market it and sell and cause a format war?!) is completely beyond me. I've stopped buying products from companies for less than that.

sj001 · 03-06-2008, 01:59 AM

What will they do when Blu is completely dominating? Continue to hate? It will get them nowhere. I think this scorched earth crap is just ridiculous...

tron3 · 03-06-2008, 02:22 AM

I have NEVER seen a company lose a format war who so successfully slap themselves in the face in the name of "pay back".

It's like someone saying your fly is unzipped and replying, "I did that on purpose."

"I meant to do that." -Pee Wee Herman / Pee Wee's Big Adventure

GaS · 03-06-2008, 02:37 AM

They can say whatever they want about SUC and praise it from the mountaintops. You know that everytime they put a standard dvd in their SUC player when the know there is an HDM alternative, it will just eat them up.

They can deny it all they want, but we'll know.

Anthony P · 03-06-2008, 02:44 AM

tron3: agree, it is like that person with a brain deficiency that keeps on bumping into that same wall over and over and over again (except that in this case the person is running and there is a small ledge just at the right level to get it in the balls). The worst part about it is that they are killing any credibility and alienating the whole AV world, be it studios or other CEs. It almost looks like they are already trying to kill any chance for them to be on the winning side of the next format war in 10+ years.

RUR · 03-06-2008, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgonzo2u

Were you able to put that statement about his mad posting about HDDUD in there before it locked?

Nope, but earlier in the thread I asked if those favorably comparing SUC-ed SD DVD's to HD were imbibing fermented grape beverages.

(an historical AVS inside joke...)

Mr. Hanky · 03-06-2008, 03:28 AM

Also don't forget, it is always a good opportunity to ask how his special XA2 liquidation is going.

That has got to hurt to the very pit of his wallet (the closest thing he has comparable to a heart).

03-05-2008, 10:54 PM	#1
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	Red ants re-energized with Super Upscaling idea Just take a look at the usual forums - more notably AVS - and you'll find the usual suspects at it once again (Drunken Tivo Dealer and Lee Stewart coming immediately to mind). They are now hyping this new so-called Super Upscaling that Toshiba mentioned in the WSJ article and how it might take off. Some on there are now saying many Blu-rays don't even look better than SD DVD anyway. These guys never go too low I guess.

03-05-2008, 11:09 PM	#2
Jim L Special Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2006 Location:Myrtle Beach, SC Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:20	Exactly! I was reading an article over at hollywoodinhidef.com that linked to a CNET article about why Toshiba will release a Blu-ray player this year. Guess what? The very first reply to the article was by none other than *DeadMeatGA* (whom I'm sure many of you recognize) and he was praising the wonders of SUC (super upconversion). CNET article here It's funny how these deluded people can jump on anything with such zeal just because they (supposedly) hate Blu-ray! Who are they, really? Viral marketers from a certain software company? Angry cheapskate XBox 360 owners who believed all the lies and got burned? Rabid Sony-haters? All the above? I really don't understand it --- *really*. It is completely irrational.

03-05-2008, 11:14 PM	#4
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	The TiVo guy describes HIMSELF as the biggest independent Toshiba dealer in the USA. He's just selling his wares. And he's doing so under a AVS approved "insider" and "expert" guise. Say, Bill Gates, which is better: Windows Vista or Mac OSX? Wow, well you're an expert so I guess it MUST be Vista. Gary Last edited by dialog_gvf; 03-05-2008 at 11:19 PM.

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03-05-2008, 11:14 PM	#3
95pgtproject Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:210 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:21	yeah Toshiba is gonna do magical upscaling that makes dvd HD now so there is no need to HDM anymore and they made HD dvd just to waist time until there magical upscalers are ready I cant stand hd dvd fan boys, if its not downloading is the HD future its super upscaling. Anything to avoid Blu LMAO Whats next VHS upscaled downloads

03-05-2008, 11:17 PM	#6
Monkey Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2006 Trading Score:31	"Toshiba Super Up-Conversion Promo" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMoFQI5TTzY

03-05-2008, 11:28 PM	#8
Blubaru Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Tonight! you!	these red ants just won't stop. They are like a bad case of herpes that just won't go away.

03-05-2008, 11:32 PM	#10
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	I think it's half that a bunch moved on to the next paycheck, and a bunch of people still want to go with the scorched earth policy

03-05-2008, 11:34 PM	#11
xtop Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:3	some crazy stuff from fanboys, seems as i get older they get more crazy

03-06-2008, 01:26 AM	#13
Spankey Power Member Member since:Oct 2006	If AVS had any credibility left that kind of garbage would be moved from any HD areas and stuck in the SD DVD section. Wonder how long some sane HD-DVD owners finally come to their senses and see these fools for what they are. Paid shills.

03-06-2008, 01:49 AM	#14
Cplhicks Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 4K collection:276 Blu-ray collection:1996 DVD collection:798 MA collection:457 Digital collection:581 iTunes collection:668 Prime collection:446 Trading Score:31	Honestly why any red fanboys would continue to support Toshiba after they backstabbed and insulted them ("Oh, HD doesn't matter anyway"-- then why market it and sell and cause a format war?!) is completely beyond me. I've stopped buying products from companies for less than that.

03-06-2008, 01:59 AM	#15
sj001 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Blu-ray collection:317 DVD collection:17 Trading Score:5	What will they do when Blu is completely dominating? Continue to hate? It will get them nowhere. I think this scorched earth crap is just ridiculous...

03-06-2008, 02:22 AM	#16
tron3 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2004 Location:New Jersey Blu-ray reviews:3	I have NEVER seen a company lose a format war who so successfully slap themselves in the face in the name of "pay back". It's like someone saying your fly is unzipped and replying, "I did that on purpose." "I meant to do that." -Pee Wee Herman / Pee Wee's Big Adventure

03-06-2008, 02:37 AM	#17
GaS Senior Member Member since:Aug 2006	They can say whatever they want about SUC and praise it from the mountaintops. You know that everytime they put a standard dvd in their SUC player when the know there is an HDM alternative, it will just eat them up. They can deny it all they want, but we'll know.

03-06-2008, 02:44 AM	#18
Anthony P Blu-ray Count Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	tron3: agree, it is like that person with a brain deficiency that keeps on bumping into that same wall over and over and over again (except that in this case the person is running and there is a small ledge just at the right level to get it in the balls). The worst part about it is that they are killing any credibility and alienating the whole AV world, be it studios or other CEs. It almost looks like they are already trying to kill any chance for them to be on the winning side of the next format war in 10+ years.

03-06-2008, 03:28 AM	#20
Mr. Hanky Active Member Member since:Sep 2007	Also don't forget, it is always a good opportunity to ask how his special XA2 liquidation is going. That has got to hurt to the very pit of his wallet (the closest thing he has comparable to a heart).

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