PS3 DTS-HD MA + 1080i deinterlacing "please look forward to them."

[Jimboc]

AV Watch interview with SCE engineers about PS3 Firmware 2.20. Translated by Beyond 3D:
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread...51#post1145651

* Apparently movie studios are satisfied with BD-Live functions in PS3. Its processing speed / graphics rendering is much faster than dedicated players and the performance gap won't get narrower soon. Even among current BD-Java titles, some are doing performance profiling in a loading screen and show richer effects on PS3. Such differentiation by player performance may happen for BD-Live too. It is not something special only for PS3, it's in the spec of the BD format.

* 2.20 has neither Managed Copy (w/ transcoding) nor Portable Copy (w/o transcoding,
demoed at CES) implemented.

* In-game XMB is one of the features discussed at SCE, but they can't comment on the date and so on yet. Though some of the XMB functions are already available in-game by an update, not many games support them yet.

* To licensee developers, it was announced that 2.20 could reduce system memory resource usage a lot.

* The web browser runs faster and has better streaming support than before. Though they can't comment on which particular service they'll support at this point, it will be improved further.

* Though it's technically possible that PS3 charges fees for certain updates, they continue free updates as the basic concept of PS3 is a hardware that evolves with updates.

* Optical discs and media files (including DLNA) are played back through 2 different paths in PS3. Functions such as noise reduction are first implemented in the optical disc player, then some of them are applied to the media player. While an optical disc player only requires an implementation in the range of an official spec, a media player needs a different know-how or sometimes a new algorithm to support files authored by general users with varied encoding settings. The playback quality of AVCHD is currently higher when you open it from a disc or a memory stick than from a file in a folder.

* The main target of mosquito noise reduction is recordings from digital TV. It assumes a use case where a user plays a long MPEG-4 AVC file recorded on a BD. The upconversion in 1.80 was useless for a noisy movie, so noise reduction (not only the specific function of mosquito noise reduction, but also other filters) has been improved in 2.20.

* Though mosquito noise reduction is high on the processing load, the total load is lower than that of the first version of the PS3 BD player or 1.80. In 1.80, it was almost full load when upconverting a DVD, but not now due to optimization. Currently it doesn't reach full load unless it plays back 2 AVC streams in Picture-in-Picture while running high-load BD-Java.

* As for 1080 deinterlacing and DTS-HD MA, "please look forward to them."

* The LTH support took time since they had to test it with a LTH disc recorded with a Sony BD recorder.

* The update schedule is not different from before, basically a large update is once in a quarter. However the next update may be soon because of the PS Store.

* It's recommended to update a PS3 since BD titles with new encryption keys start to appear. Though 1.80 already has the latest key, image quality in the latest firmware is a lot better. An updater for PS3 is also contained in some movie titles. The Blu-ray version of Resident Evil 3 has a 2.10 updater.

[un4gvn94538]

yeah, an insider here said it was coming too. could be this week or in five years! ive been hearing it for a year. ill believe it when i see it.

[Blu Haze]

I will look.....

[kingofgrills]

Great! Thanks for posting that one. I cannot wait until the PS3 finally releases DTS-HD MA. It will probably be a little while still due to the DTS-HD MA decoding error that was uncovered. DTS probably had to develop and send revised decoding specs to all their hardware partners.

It always amazes me how the PS3's team of engineers continually cranks on the machine in order to improve it. It's very commendable, and they obviously enjoy playing around with the power of the Cell chip.

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by kingofgrills

Great! Thanks for posting that one. I cannot wait until the PS3 finally releases DTS-HD MA. It will probably be a little while still due to the DTS-HD MA decoding error that was uncovered. DTS probably had to develop and send revised decoding specs to all their hardware partners.

It always amazes me how the PS3's team of engineers continually cranks on the machine in order to improve it. It's very commendable, and they obviously enjoy playing around with the power of the Cell chip.

the issue is actually limited to decoding chips in certain receivers that an update is fixing. i highly doubt that it has anything to do with why its not on the ps3. the issue is also limited when bitstreaming and not decoding in a player.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Bring it on!

[ranma]

When can PS3 upscale SD stuffs on BD discs?

[KretzJ]

SWEET Deal!

-John K.

[savage1984]

well, well, well. They pretty much said we won't be getting DTS HD-MA this quarter because we're getting the ps store update, which is nice.

* The update schedule is not different from before, basically a large update is once in a quarter. However the next update may be soon because of the PS Store.

But maybe they meant we'd be getting both. Like we're gettin this PS Store update soon and then later in the quarter we'll get DTS HD-MA. I think if we get it in May that would be nice, but it's lookin' more like June.

What do you think?

[aheintz]

Originally Posted by savage1984

What do you think?

Soon I hope as this will be a nice addition

[savage1984]

Originally Posted by aheintz

Soon I hope as this will be a nice addition

Did you vote in the poll or just quote me?

[SDon1969]

I was hoping for May but I would probably join you in predicting June or even July for DTS-MA (yup I voted in the poll!).

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by savage1984

well, well, well. They pretty much said we won't be getting DTS HD-MA this quarter because we're getting the ps store update, which is nice.

there is another thread for updates and there is a post there with a link that states that the store update is seperate from the quarterly update.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/04/08/...irmware-plans/

[Shin-Ra]

Originally Posted by savage1984

well, well, well. They pretty much said we won't be getting DTS HD-MA this quarter because we're getting the ps store update, which is nice.

Reading the translation (which may not be acurate) I can't see how anybody would come to that conclusion.

[savage1984]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

there is another thread for updates and there is a post there with a link that states that the store update is seperate from the quarterly update.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/04/08/...irmware-plans/

First of all, I didn't know that. It sorta makes what he said make more sense. If that makes any sense. lol.

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Reading the translation (which may not be acurate) I can't see how anybody would come to that conclusion.

My conclusion was based on the fact that I thought the ps store update counted as part of the major quarterly update. Knowing what I know now, we may still get DTS HD-MA this quarter. I guess I shouldn't speak before I know the facts.

But on a lighter note, I did learn a little more.
Also, does anyone know when Q1 began for Sony?

[WriteSimply]

I think the "1080 deinterlacing" is for 1080i sources, specifically 1080i30 sources often found on concert titles shot using HD cameras. Hopefully the Cell will do a great job at it.


fuad

[CptGreedle]

Can't wait to see this come out!!!
I will be checking back often for this.... also check HERE for more PS3 updates!!!

[crazy25000]

Question: what does it mean for the 1080 deinterlacing? Will it improve graphics or just help people out who have older sets?

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by crazy25000

Question: what does it mean for the 1080 deinterlacing? Will it improve graphics or just help people out who have older sets?

Taking a 1080i source and deinterlacing it to make it 1080p, I believe. I only see this as an issue with downloaded or saved HD broadcast content, since BD's are all supposed to be 1080p.

[Cyorg]

Originally Posted by aramis109

Taking a 1080i source and deinterlacing it to make it 1080p, I believe. I only see this as an issue with downloaded or saved HD broadcast content, since BD's are all supposed to be 1080p.

Will this work for games? A lot of PS3 games are 720p/1080i.