Onkyo 605/705/805 dts ma questions

[ixlegitballinxl]

A few posts in regards to onkyo's possible problem putting out dts ma....now that dts ma is going to be available soon...how do you know if your receiver is updated? Also, will this still be sent out over pcm ?...im hoping it will say DTS MASTER AUDIO on my receiver...any input would be great

[JasonR]

It will be sent PCM, so no it won't say DTS-MA on your receiver.

[MacDaddyOJack]

Originally Posted by JasonR

It will be sent PCM, so no it won't say DTS-MA on your receiver.

If you are using the PS3 as your player (and I'm assuming you are), it will not say "DTS-HD MA". Instead, it will show up as "Direct" or "Multichannel". The PS3 will be decoding the DTS-HD MA track internally and sending it to your reciever as an LPCM signal. The PS3 does not have the correct HDMI chipset to ever bitstream advanced audio codecs so if you want your reciever to do the decoding and display "DTS MASTER AUDIO", then you need a new player that can bitstream the new audio codecs.

[Rike255]

Originally Posted by ixlegitballinxl

A few posts in regards to onkyo's possible problem putting out dts ma....now that dts ma is going to be available soon...how do you know if your receiver is updated? Also, will this still be sent out over pcm ?...im hoping it will say DTS MASTER AUDIO on my receiver...any input would be great

Are you using a PS3 as your blu-ray player? If you are, then don't worry about the issue it doesn't affect you in any way.
The PS3 will decode HD-MA internally and pass the PCM signal to the receiver. So your receiver will display "multichannel" or whatever it says, not "DTS-HD MA".

[devils3023]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

The PS3 does not have the correct HDMI chipset to ever bitstream advanced audio codecs so if you want your reciever to do the decoding and display "DTS MASTER AUDIO", then you need a new player that can bitstream the new audio codecs.

There has never been an official confirmation of this by Sony themselves so don't say that it will never be able to bitstream it. I still have hope until I hear Sony say otherwise.

[ixlegitballinxl]

so in regards to possible issues with dts ma and onkyo, is only if the receiver is doing the decoding, and since ps3 does this internally, there will be no issue because onkyo is getting a pcm feed?

yea, ps3 is my blu ray player......going to get a standalone by the end of the year once all new lineup's are out

[Krafticus]

Is there any difference in sound quality between the LCPM and Bitstreaming? It almost sounds like the only thing missing is the label on the receiver?

Thanks

Mark

[JasonR]

Originally Posted by Krafticus

Is there any difference in sound quality between the LCPM and Bitstreaming? It almost sounds like the only thing missing is the label on the receiver?Thanks

Mark

That is the only thing missing, there is no difference. The DTS Onkyo issues should not show up as it is the PS3 doing the decoding.

[Rike255]

Originally Posted by ixlegitballinxl

so in regards to possible issues with dts ma and onkyo, is only if the receiver is doing the decoding, and since ps3 does this internally, there will be no issue because onkyo is getting a pcm feed?

yea, ps3 is my blu ray player......going to get a standalone by the end of the year once all new lineup's are out

That's right. The issue is only present when the receiver decodes the HD-MA track. And only on certain titles.
There's a large topic about it floating around here somewhere. You may be able to get more information about it there.
Since you're using your PS3 now, the issue doesn't affect you in any ways. But if you do buy a standalone, you may want to know a little more about it.

[shatta]

what about other receivers......i got a cheap one that can accept 96k frequency thing--and it displays dts whenever im watchin adts movie i guess

note:when i was watchin i robot on dvd--the reciever displayed dts--same when playin COD4....

[JasonR]

Originally Posted by shatta

what about other receivers......i got a cheap one that can accept 96k frequency thing--and it displays dts whenever im watchin adts movie i guess

note:when i was watchin i robot on dvd--the reciever displayed dts--same when playin COD4....

Are you bitstreaming your core soundtrack?

[shatta]

yep..i use bitstream through the optical cable..........s to hear this new DTS-HD...to feel lifelike...i have to set my ps3 to PCM?....or can i jus leave it on bitstream..wat about my cables.....my receiver dont have a HDMI input

[JasonR]

You have to set it to PCM and let it output via HDMI. If you don't have HDMI, you won't see a benefit.

[ixlegitballinxl]

optical cant produce hd sound.....hdmi only

[shatta]

so ur telling me i have to get a receiver with hmdi input plus output......


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ok is there any reciever under $500 that can do this thing

[DutchBoy]

Originally Posted by shatta

so ur telling me i have to get a receiver with hmdi input plus output......


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ok is there any reciever under $500 that can do this thing

The Onkyo 605 can do it. Also, someone steered me towards a Sony (I believe the 810) that can also do it. Both are under the 500 price tag.

The 605 is an awesome receiver -- though prepare to be told to splurge a little bit more and get the 705 or 805.

The Onkyo is under 400, and the Sony is actually under 300.

[Mr3dfx]

Originally Posted by shatta

so ur telling me i have to get a receiver with hmdi input plus output......


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ok is there any reciever under $500 that can do this thing

Yes the Onyko 605 can do this for under 500...
http://www.google.com/products?q=onk...&hl=en&show=dd

[MacDaddyOJack]

Originally Posted by devils3023

There has never been an official confirmation of this by Sony themselves so don't say that it will never be able to bitstream it. I still have hope until I hear Sony say otherwise.

They do not have to release an official statement, they have already released the specs on the HDMI chipset. The chipset that is in all current PS3's is not capable of bitstreaming advanced audio codecs, period. By releasing that information in an official statement, it would only hurt PS3 sales as a bluray player.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by shatta

ok is there any reciever under $500 that can do this thing

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR605...7854742&sr=1-1

I just ordered one myself.