my set up, how should it be set up

[crxvtec]

I looked but did not understand.
I have a receiver from 2001. Kenwood vr-615. Surround sound speakers, 5.1. Receiver has optical input, no HDMI. DTS, Dolby Pro Logic II, Dolby Digital.
PS3 as Blu Ray player
Samsung 4661 lcd tv.

One thing I do not get is what to boxes to check for sound in the sound settings for optimal sound? I had the video and sound out of the PS3 to TV via HDMI and sound only to the receiver via Optical. I have only DTS checked.( And the defaults)It has been good but I know it can sound better. I tried messing with settings and while watching Cars, there would be some dialouge that was 100% gone. What did I check to make it this way?

What would be the best set up. Optical straight to the receiver? HDMI to TV and then from TV to receiver optical? What boxes do I checkmark? Please, help me

[DutchBoy]

Set your PS3 to bitstream - make sure you have DTS 5.1 and DD 5.1 checked off in your sound settings.

That's about all there is to it.

Interesting that only "some" of the dialogue is missing...

[crxvtec]

what boxes would i check to get 5.1 out of my receiver. I just hooked it up optical direct to try something new.

[DutchBoy]

Originally Posted by crxvtec

what boxes would i check to get 5.1 out of my receiver. I just hooked it up optical direct to try something new.

If you go into sound settings on your PS3, choosing optical>auto I believe should check the ones you need anyways, but you'll need to make sure DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1 get checked. The PS3 will probably also check off some of the 2.0 PCM ones as well, in case you decide to send your audio by LPCM.

[blu-backer]

Originally Posted by DutchBoy

If you go into sound settings on your PS3, choosing optical>auto I believe should check the ones you need anyways, but you'll need to make sure DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1 get checked. The PS3 will probably also check off some of the 2.0 PCM ones as well, in case you decide to send your audio by LPCM.

I think the last part of your last sentence may not be correct, since if he's connected via Optical, he can't send LPCM since LPCM is only available through HDMI and Multichannel Analog, IIRC.

Otherwise, your advice of setting the PS3 to bitstream and then setting the sound settings to Auto to have it select the modes supported by the receiver sound like they're on track.

[DutchBoy]

Originally Posted by blu-backer

I think the last part of your last sentence may not be correct, since if he's connected via Optical, he can't send LPCM since LPCM is only available through HDMI and Multichannel Analog, IIRC.

Otherwise, your advice of setting the PS3 to bitstream and then setting the sound settings to Auto to have it select the modes supported by the receiver sound like they're on track.

Actually, you can send PCM via optical. You can also choose Linear PCM to be sent via optical under the BDVD settings on the PS3.

Optical is capable of sending PCM; it's just 2.0 PCM.

I plugged my optical cable back into my PS3, and went into settings>auto and it did indeed check off the 2.0 PCM boxes by itself. Check yourself if you'd like. Under the optical options available, there are maybe 5 or 6 for 2.0 PCM.

[blu-backer]

Originally Posted by DutchBoy

Actually, you can send PCM via optical. You can also choose Linear PCM to be sent via optical under the BDVD settings on the PS3.

Optical is capable of sending PCM; it's just 2.0 PCM.

I plugged my optical cable back into my PS3, and went into settings>auto and it did indeed check off the 2.0 PCM boxes by itself.

Interesting. I haven't tried that myself since I use HDMI. I was just referring to this that seemed to indicate that LPCM is only through HDMI and Multichannel Analog. No biggie.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=40821

[DutchBoy]

Originally Posted by blu-backer

Interesting. I haven't tried that myself since I use HDMI. I was just referring to this that seemed to indicate that LPCM is only through HDMI and Multichannel Analog. No biggie.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=40821

No worries, mate, not trying to be snippy...

One of the first sentences in that thread you linked:

Before I go any further, I would like to note that Optical and Digital Coaxial cables are insufficient and will only transmit 2.0 PCM audio.

It's the 5.1 and 7.1 PCM that are only available through HDMI or multi-channel analog. Optical will send 2.0 PCM just fine. There's just not much use for it, I don't think.

LPCM is actually how the signal is being sent, not the audio itself. PCM is the name of the audio being sent.

[blu-backer]

Originally Posted by DutchBoy

No worries, mate, not trying to be snippy...

One of the first sentences in that thread you linked:


It's the 5.1 and 7.1 PCM that are only available through HDMI or multi-channel analog. Optical will send 2.0 PCM just fine. There's just not much use for it, I don't think.

LPCM is actually how the signal is being sent, not the audio itself. PCM is the name of the audio being sent.

Gotcha. I've got LPCM equated to meaning the Lossless PCM/TrueHD/DTS-HDMA, which obviously does not. Thanks for clarifying. Just wanted to make sure that the OP realizes that he won't get the lossless stuff and will only get the 2.0 PCM.

Which is why I suggested the upgraded receiver to begin with so he can enjoy the "real" audio.

[DutchBoy]

Originally Posted by blu-backer

Gotcha. I've got LPCM equated to meaning the Lossless PCM/TrueHD/DTS-HDMA, which obviously does not. Thanks for clarifying. Just wanted to make sure that the OP realizes that he won't get the lossless stuff and will only get the 2.0 PCM.

Which is why I suggested the upgraded receiver to begin with so he can enjoy the "real" audio.

Yeah -- it probably wasn't necessary information. I just know the PS3 checks em off on its own, so I wanted to explain that in case there was any confusion.

Yeah, I upgraded my own over the weekend and it's wonderful. No comparison!

OP -- just make sure you have DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1 checked off under your settings for optical, and you should be fine. Unless there's an issue somewhere else like with the receiver...

[crxvtec]

Does the receiver have to be on for the PS3 to auto check the boxes? I checked the DD 5.1 and the DTS 5.1 manually. I know I will not get lossless. The receiver detects DD and it sounds SO much better. Playing COD 4 was a different experience. Now I want to watch movies. Before the sound would be coming thru all 5 speakers at the same time and was very echoed. I just did not want to have to run sound thru the receiver only and not the TV.

[DutchBoy]

Originally Posted by crxvtec

Does the receiver have to be on for the PS3 to auto check the boxes? I checked the DD 5.1 and the DTS 5.1 manually. I know I will not get lossless. The receiver detects DD and it sounds SO much better. Playing COD 4 was a different experience. Now I want to watch movies. Before the sound would be coming thru all 5 speakers at the same time and was very echoed. I just did not want to have to run sound thru the receiver only and not the TV.

Not that I'm aware of, no.

[crxvtec]

Oh well, either way it sounds really good now. I cant even imagine better audio. That will be the next big purchase.

Thanks for the help.