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Old 06-16-2008, 08:23 PM   #1
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Default Do 50g films have better PQ then 25g films?

To me, 50gig is overkill..unless it trully gets you a better PQ..
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To me, 50gig is overkill..unless it trully gets you a better PQ..
Nearly every movie that is rated highly on PQ is a BD50.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:25 PM   #3
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Keep in mind movie length, extras, definition of the extras, audio included, etc.
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To me, 50gig is overkill..unless it trully gets you a better PQ..
Amir? J/K!

Disney believes it does...

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Old 06-16-2008, 08:39 PM   #5
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Amir? J/K!

Disney believes it does...

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ROFLMAO! Aww, Alan, that was just mean.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:44 PM   #6
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ROFLMAO! Aww, Alan, that was just mean.
Ironically, I did not even pay attention to the OP's screen name... which makes my joke even funnier (Amir is REAL big on head phones... and has brought that up MANY times).

As to the OP's question, as I said, Disney has stated they felt that BD-50 allowed them to offer better picture, and Disney certainly gets rave reviews for their PQ on titles!

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Old 06-16-2008, 08:47 PM   #7
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More room = less compression = better picture.

(yes there are more details but in a nutshell)
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:15 PM   #8
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I just realized today that most Special Features are in Standard Definition, which isn't so good, but doesn't bother me too much but I'm sure they could have easily been in High Definition..
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A movie can fit on a 25GB disc no problem and still look great too, but it would have to be short. For a long movie (1 1/2 hours is long enough), a full 50GB disc would have the room for the information to spread out. That will avoid compression which is used on all video, and can provide uncompressed and lossless sound too, which is on MOST BD titles.
Without the extra space, you will probably have to compress sound and image, especially for longer titles.
It is in NO WAY overkill. BD50 discs tend to get better reviews, and games are already using more than 25GB. Imagine putting a long movie like Lord of the Rings on a 25GB disc and you will see tons of compression and lossy audio. But with 50 GB you can fit lossless audio and better video.
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I'm not amir.. I go by KBI on the AVS forum.
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I didn't think you were... I was just joking around!

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ROFLMAO! Aww, Alan, that was just mean.
True but it was funny.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:25 AM   #14
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To me, 50gig is overkill..unless it trully gets you a better PQ..
The important things is that a 50GB disc leaves room for extras and lossless audio on top of a high quality encode.

There is a sticky which shows movie size if you want to correlate movie size to some subjective quality rank:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3338
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:44 AM   #15
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Garbage In, Garbage Out.

Black Snake Moan, MI-3, Alvin on BD-25 etc had better PQ than I am Legend, V for Vendetta, Juno, 27 Dresses etc which are on BD-50.
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:51 AM   #16
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Imagine putting a long movie like Lord of the Rings on a 25GB disc and you will see tons of compression and lossy audio. But with 50 GB you can fit lossless audio and better video.
What are the chances that each movie in the trilogy gets a 4 layered BD (100GB)? I thought I saw something when Blu was first launched that there could eventually be 4 layered discs. Would launch to date standalones play such discs or would firmware updates be required?
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:55 AM   #17
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What are the chances that each movie in the trilogy gets a 4 layered BD (100GB)? I thought I saw something when Blu was first launched that there could eventually be 4 layered discs. Would launch to date standalones play such discs or would firmware updates be required?
Zero. It is questionable whether they will ever actually be manufactured as writeables for consumers even.

You will not see any commercial movie on a BD-100, except for, and that's assuming someone actually bothers to make a line for them, some oddball disc designed to get you to buy it because it's BD-100

I think everyone learned from DVD-18 the lesson of "the more layers, the exponentially more defects"
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Garbage In, Garbage Out.

Black Snake Moan, MI-3, Alvin on BD-25 etc had better PQ than I am Legend, V for Vendetta, Juno, 27 Dresses etc which are on BD-50.
What exactly was wrong with Juno? That was a perfect transfer.
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not every 50gb disc looks great found that out the hard way
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I just realized today that most Special Features are in Standard Definition, which isn't so good, but doesn't bother me too much but I'm sure they could have easily been in High Definition..
Not if they weren't filmed in hi def, which most aren't.
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