"Red" BD-9?

[Wiggin15]

http://slashdot.org/articles/05/11/15/161200.shtml
http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/123491

"We wanted the player to be capable of playing back a [9GB] high-definition red-laser disc, which we call BD-9," says Cardwell. "[The disc] would have a high enough capacity for our movies, and it would have a lower cost than the [25GB] BD-25. The advantage would be lower costs to manufacture the disc, because it could be manufactured on existing [DVD production] lines. Certainly, most of our movies will fit on a BD-9. The issue will be how much enhanced content will we put on there. For basic movies, most will fit on BD-9."

This is new to me. Kinda takes the "Blu" off the name...
Is 9GB even enough for a High Definition movie? And why not just use DVD-9?

[Marwin]

The only studio to show interest in using red-laser discs for high-definition content is Warner. They already got HD-DVD-9 accepted for HD-DVD quite some time ago and have now bargained for BD-9 when they joined the Blu-ray Disc Association.

As far as these red-laser based formats go, they will basically use a DVD-9 with advanced codecs and interactivity. The format only makes sense for shorter programming that doesn't require as much space (perhaps a disc with extras), but hopefully they won't be stupid enough to try and put a whole movie on such a disc. As for the person who was responsible for the actual quote (Jim Cardwell), he has already been replaced at Warner

[thunderhawk]

Originally Posted by Marwin

As for the person who was responsible for the actual quote (Jim Cardwell), he has already been replaced at Warner

Why would that be? lol

[Marwin]

They restructured Warner recently and I guess he didn't fit into the new organization, he was replaced by Ron Sanders:
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6277663.html

[Zinn]

Can we the users burn a BD-9?

[jorg]

wait is this not like fvd
red laser technolagy 15 gig total 3 layers china
http://www.fvd.org.tw/eng/eng_index.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Versatile_Disc

or is this like mini blu-ray disc?
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/05/t...scs-at-ceatec/

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...i-blu-ray-disc

http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/ceat...blu-ray-discs/

16.5 gigs on a single layer

[Blue]

I'm certain the BD standard does not include HD on a DVD which is a shame as it would fit most of my needs exactly. For clients short 7 minute video's would fit nicely on a single layer DVD allowing for a bit rate of 26Mb/s. The problem I guess is the sped the disc would need to spin at. It would be a minimum of 4x (DVD) to get the throughput.

[Musashi]

A Red BD-9 would be an original DVD that (maybe) used VC-1 or AVC and required a higher speed drive than a 1x DVD to play. On the whole, not really practical.

[Blackraven]

useless.

if you want something in 9 gigs, get DVD dual layer.

EDIT: Yay 500th post

[JonasK]

Originally Posted by Blue

I'm certain the BD standard does not include HD on a DVD which is a shame as it would fit most of my needs exactly. For clients short 7 minute video's would fit nicely on a single layer DVD allowing for a bit rate of 26Mb/s. The problem I guess is the sped the disc would need to spin at. It would be a minimum of 4x (DVD) to get the throughput.

I don't know if HD on DVD is part of the Blu-ray standard or not, but at least the Panasonic DMP-BD10 seems to be able to play DVD-R disks with Blu-ray authored contents.

[phloyd]

Originally Posted by JonasK

at least the Panasonic DMP-BD10 seems to be able to play DVD-R disks with Blu-ray authored contents.

It certainly does.

I have been working on it to see what limitations it has.

Certainly it seems that it does not like higher bitrates (like above 20 Mbps) when reading from DVDR discs. So far it has no trouble with full bitrate ATSC (~ 19.4 Mbps) and while I have not observed the layer change, it seems to work ok with DVD+R DL discs also.

I am not sure how brand picky it is - The HD DVD A1 player is quite picky about DL media especially at layer change.