True Dolby HD

[lcrngrs]

I usually like to keep up with newer technologies so I was wondering if anyone can say from experience that true Dolby hd sounds better. I have a yamaha receiver now, using a ps3, going through an optical cable. In order for me to switch I have to spend around 400.00 to get an updated receiver. I just was looking for help regarding if it is worth the expense. My current receiver is a 7.1 yamaha but no true hd. Thanks

[arush5268d]

The lossless codecs all sound the same. It's not a matter of the codec but of the source material / encoded bitrate.

[Brain Sturgeon]

Originally Posted by lcrngrs

I usually like to keep up with newer technologies so I was wondering if anyone can say from experience that true Dolby hd sounds better. I have a yamaha receiver now, using a ps3, going through an optical cable. In order for me to switch I have to spend around 400.00 to get an updated receiver. I just was looking for help regarding if it is worth the expense. My current receiver is a 7.1 yamaha but no true hd. Thanks

From your setup, I presume you're asking if lossless multichannel (PCM, TrueHD, DTSHDMA) sounds better than lossy multichannel (DD, DTS). The answer is yes, they definitely do. Whether or not it's worth $400 for you to upgrade to be able to hear it is a personal thing. Good DD and DTS are no slouches; But if you're looking for the best video AND audio experience from Blu-ray, I would strongly recommend it.

If your receiver has 5.1 or 7.1 analog inputs, another option for you for lossless audio that might be less than $400, would be to get a dedicated BD player that has 5.1/7.1 analog outs. All BD players will pass LPCM via analogs, most will decode TrueHD and pass it out the analogs, and very few will decode DTSHDMA and pass it out the analogs (these will run you more than $400). If you want to stick with the PS3, then your only option would be to upgrade to a receiver which implements HDMI audio.

[lcrngrs]

Originally Posted by arush5268d

The lossless codecs all sound the same. It's not a matter of the codec but of the source material / encoded bitrate.

not knowing what that means are you saying that buying a new receiver is a waste or not.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by lcrngrs

not knowing what that means are you saying that buying a new receiver is a waste or not.

bro i just spent the $400.00 and am very happy with my ONKYO, the uncompressed audio is a huge upgrade from dd or dts....

If uncompressed is a 10/10, dd and dts are about a 5/10 if that...

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by lcrngrs

not knowing what that means are you saying that buying a new receiver is a waste or not.

I think he misunderstood the question and you misunderstood his answer.

[lcrngrs]

Originally Posted by Sith

bro i just spent the $400.00 and am very happy with my ONKYO, the uncompressed audio is a huge upgrade from dd or dts....

If uncompressed is a 10/10, dd and dts are about a 5/10 if that...

which onkyo did you buy? I've always purchased yamaha and was thinking about the 663. I assume the onkyo is hd. Correct.

[lcrngrs]

Originally Posted by Driver_King

I think he misunderstood the question and you misunderstood his answer.

I am now using my ps3 instead of my samsung bluray player. I did this in order to take advantage of the hd audio. My yamaha 7.1 receiver is not hd capable. I have 7 definitive technology speakers plus the sub. Sounds like it is a good idea to upgrade. What receiver would you recommend keeping in mind I still need to achieve true 1080p for video. Anything in the 4-6 hundred range.

[My_Two_Cents]

Onkyo 705, 606 or 605 will all be fine, as should the Yamaha 663. I have the 705 and love it!

[Brain Sturgeon]

Originally Posted by lcrngrs

I am now using my ps3 instead of my samsung bluray player. I did this in order to take advantage of the hd audio. My yamaha 7.1 receiver is not hd capable. I have 7 definitive technology speakers plus the sub. Sounds like it is a good idea to upgrade. What receiver would you recommend keeping in mind I still need to achieve true 1080p for video. Anything in the 4-6 hundred range.

Does your Yamaha receiver have multichannel analog inputs? If so, then it is "hd capable". You would just need to run the multichannel analog outs from your Samsung BD player to the Yamaha, and presto: lossless audio-- at least in LPCM. If your player will decode TrueHD into LPCM, then you also have lossless audio with THD material. I know of no Samsung player that will internally decode DTSHDMA, so you're out of luck there.

If your receiver does not have multichannel analog ins, then you're stuck with getting a new receiver.

[lcrngrs]

Originally Posted by Brain Sturgeon

Does your Yamaha receiver have multichannel analog inputs? If so, then it is "hd capable". You would just need to run the multichannel analog outs from your Samsung BD player to the Yamaha, and presto: lossless audio-- at least in LPCM. If your player will decode TrueHD into LPCM, then you also have lossless audio with THD material. I know of no Samsung player that will internally decode DTSHDMA, so you're out of luck there.

If your receiver does not have multichannel analog ins, then you're stuck with getting a new receiver.

The reason for getting the ps3 was for true dolby he. My samsung was not he compatable. I would need to get another bluray player for the same price or more so I decided to go with the ps3. My receiver does have multi channel but since my bluray did not, it didn't matter.

[lcrngrs]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Onkyo 705, 606 or 605 will all be fine, as should the Yamaha 663. I have the 705 and love it!

if I went with the onkyo what are the settings needed to go along with the ps3?

[MieDan4ever]

Yes big difference in sound quality. Go for it!

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by lcrngrs

I am now using my ps3 instead of my samsung bluray player. I did this in order to take advantage of the hd audio. My yamaha 7.1 receiver is not hd capable. I have 7 definitive technology speakers plus the sub. Sounds like it is a good idea to upgrade. What receiver would you recommend keeping in mind I still need to achieve true 1080p for video. Anything in the 4-6 hundred range.

Alright, I'd suggest the Onkyo 805 in my sig (which is better than the 605 and 705) which would be the best receiver in that price range.

[Warjack Prime]

Originally Posted by lcrngrs

I usually like to keep up with newer technologies so I was wondering if anyone can say from experience that true Dolby hd sounds better. I have a yamaha receiver now, using a ps3, going through an optical cable. In order for me to switch I have to spend around 400.00 to get an updated receiver. I just was looking for help regarding if it is worth the expense. My current receiver is a 7.1 yamaha but no true hd. Thanks

Personally, I didn't notice a big difference. I upgraded from a Denon AVR 1804 ($400 receiver 75W per channel) to the new Denon 3808CI ($1600 receiver 135W per channel) and I wasn't blown away by Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD Master Audio. I have a PS3 with HDMI.

Some things it sounds a little better, but overall if you're looking to get blown away save your $400. I think most people in this field, myself included, tend to hear better sound to make themselves feel better about their purchase.

There isn't even that big a difference between SACD and regular CD but some people swear it's like night and day.

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by Brain Sturgeon

Does your Yamaha receiver have multichannel analog inputs? If so, then it is "hd capable". You would just need to run the multichannel analog outs from your Samsung BD player to the Yamaha, and presto: lossless audio-- at least in LPCM. If your player will decode TrueHD into LPCM, then you also have lossless audio with THD material. I know of no Samsung player that will internally decode DTSHDMA, so you're out of luck there.

If your receiver does not have multichannel analog ins, then you're stuck with getting a new receiver.

Even if his receiver just had HDMI and accepted PCM, then he could run the new Audio Formats without having to upgrade.

[jby007]

i am buying a new reciever that supports hdmi

does it have to support true hd
or is pcm just fine for using a ps3

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by jby007

i am buying a new reciever that supports hdmi

does it have to support true hd
or is pcm just fine for using a ps3

Just PCM.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Pelican170

Just PCM.

Ditto +1 - End of thread - Good job Pelican!!!

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by prerich

Ditto +1 - End of thread - Good job Pelican!!!

Thanks!