any new info on bitstreaming? - Blu-ray Forum

Warjack Prime · 11-17-2008, 04:28 PM

Has anyone heard if the PS3 may receive an update to allow bitstreaming of the lossless audio signals in the near future? Just wondering...

Mr. HiDef · 11-17-2008, 04:31 PM

I seriously doubt that will ever happen I think its more of a hardware problem then a firmware but I am sure someone here will correct me if I am wrong

DezNutz · 11-17-2008, 04:42 PM

I hope they are not spending time working on this, as all HD audio singals are supported and sent via PCM right now anyways...

BACsader · 11-17-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DezNutz

I hope they are not spending time working on this, as all HD audio singals are supported and sent via PCM right now anyways...

Yeah but, I would rather know that my receiver is doing to decoding rather than my PS3. Don't get me wrong it doesn't sound bad, but my receiver probably has better DACs than what the PS3 has.

But, from everything we know, it's a hardware problem and cannot be fixed via firmware update.

alphapyro · 11-17-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BACsader

Yeah but, I would rather know that my receiver is doing to decoding rather than my PS3. Don't get me wrong it doesn't sound bad, but my receiver probably has better DACs than what the PS3 has.

But, from everything we know, it's a hardware problem and cannot be fixed via firmware update.

Really? You're going around saying this and you don't even have the slightest clue if it's true?

Come on, man...

NovaBomb · 11-17-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alphapyro

Really? You're going around saying this and you don't even have the slightest clue if it's true?

Come on, man...

+1

BACsader · 11-17-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alphapyro

Really? You're going around saying this and you don't even have the slightest clue if it's true?

Come on, man...

Let's see, a system that has many components with multiple functions or my receiver which is a Pioneer Elite receiver that is meant to decode audio and nothing else. I am going to go with my receiver having better DACs.

crackinhedz · 11-17-2008, 06:06 PM

when the PS3 decodes, its not using ANY DAC's.

...unless youre using the red/white analog output...which would be rediculous.

...the "decoding" will be identical in player vs. receiver.

DezNutz · 11-17-2008, 06:06 PM

Again not really factual, but all opinon.. and how hard is it to really decode defined audio codecs?

I would bet you are anyone else to put a blindfold on and tell the difference between in sounds between a movie playing on PS3 and any other blu-ray player using the reciever to decode. It's all digital defined codecs and it will sound the same.. this is not about quality it is about seeing and showing off the codec being displayed on a reciever.. that is it.

BACsader · 11-17-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

when the PS3 decodes, its not using ANY DAC's.

...unless youre using the red/white analog output...which would be rediculous.

...the "decoding" will be identical in player vs. receiver.

Ok. Then why do people say that when they get a new standalone player, where they are capable of bitstreaming, that their sound is significantly better, unless it's only better because they want it to be better.

crackinhedz · 11-17-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BACsader

Ok. Then why do people say that when they get a new standalone player, where they are capable of bitstreaming, that their sound is significantly better, unless it's only better because they want it to be better.

...how many of these "experts" actually conducted a 'double blind test"? ...its called the placebo effect.

crackinhedz · 11-17-2008, 06:11 PM

...but dont take my opinions, just read the Dts link. Straight from the horses mouth.

NovaBomb · 11-17-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BACsader

Ok. Then why do people say that when they get a new standalone player, where they are capable of bitstreaming, that their sound is significantly better, unless it's only better because they want it to be better.

Just answered your own question

BACsader · 11-17-2008, 06:13 PM

Well then I stand corrected. Technically though, if you think of it this way, my receiver does have better DACs because the PS3 has none. LoL. It would be nice to see the codecs displayed on my receiver. Not a big deal though since I usually turn off the display when watching a movie.

crackinhedz · 11-17-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BACsader

Technically though, if you think of it this way, my receiver does have better DACs because the PS3 has none. LoL.

well, youre right...your receiver probably has better DAC's...but the PS3 does have two of them. Left/Right

Warjack Prime · 11-18-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DezNutz

.. this is not about quality it is about seeing and showing off the codec being displayed on a reciever.. that is it.

You are correct. I'd just really like to see the visual without having to click the button on the PS3's remote.

Ok so I guess this is a dead issue and it's not gonna happen. Oh well.

richieb1971 · 11-19-2008, 01:48 AM

According to previous posts about this, its something to do with the HDMI output on the PS3 not being able to support bitstreaming of HD codecs. Meaning the PS3 will need an upgrade in a future release of the PS3 hardware. Its probably going to happen as its not really an expensive upgrade. Besides, a very few amount of people actually use HD codecs. I would say less than 3% of the PS3 consumer base use it, its just that 3% moan and moan alot on here so it seems like a lot of people.

11-17-2008, 04:28 PM	#1
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11-17-2008, 04:31 PM	#2
Mr. HiDef Expert Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Fox Lake IL Blu-ray collection:89	I seriously doubt that will ever happen I think its more of a hardware problem then a firmware but I am sure someone here will correct me if I am wrong

11-17-2008, 04:42 PM	#3
DezNutz Expert Member Member since:Mar 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:24	I hope they are not spending time working on this, as all HD audio singals are supported and sent via PCM right now anyways...

11-17-2008, 06:06 PM	#8
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	when the PS3 decodes, its not using ANY DAC's. ...unless youre using the red/white analog output...which would be rediculous. ...the "decoding" will be identical in player vs. receiver.

11-17-2008, 06:11 PM	#12
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	...but dont take my opinions, just read the Dts link. Straight from the horses mouth.

11-17-2008, 06:13 PM	#14
BACsader Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Cooper City FL Home Theater Gallery:29 Blu-ray collection:72 Blu-ray reviews:9 Trading Score:1	Well then I stand corrected. Technically though, if you think of it this way, my receiver does have better DACs because the PS3 has none. LoL. It would be nice to see the codecs displayed on my receiver. Not a big deal though since I usually turn off the display when watching a movie.

11-19-2008, 01:48 AM	#17
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	According to previous posts about this, its something to do with the HDMI output on the PS3 not being able to support bitstreaming of HD codecs. Meaning the PS3 will need an upgrade in a future release of the PS3 hardware. Its probably going to happen as its not really an expensive upgrade. Besides, a very few amount of people actually use HD codecs. I would say less than 3% of the PS3 consumer base use it, its just that 3% moan and moan alot on here so it seems like a lot of people.

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