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Old 12-30-2008, 04:16 PM   #1
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Hi guys, newbie here so be gentle.

Any setttings for samsung le40m86bd for sky + sd and ps3 hdmi 2. Purchased this tv, but the picture is very grainy. Any advise?
 
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This is a UK model #. Do you know the model number of a comparable US model?

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Old 12-30-2008, 04:35 PM   #3
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here are my current settings for the Samsung le40m86bd, are these any good? (these are for my ps3 via HDMI 2


"Picture Settings"
Mode - Movie
Contrast - 90
Brightness - 50
Sharpness - 30
Color - 51
Tint - R50/G50
Color Tone - Warm2

"Detail Settings"
Black Adjust - Off
Dynamic Contrast - Off
Gamma - 0
Color Space - Wide
White Balance - All Offsets & Gains - 15
My Color Control - All Set To - 15
Edge Enhancement - Off
xvYCC - Off
Size - just scan
Digital NR - Off

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This is a UK model #. Do you know the model number of a comparable US model?

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how i do find out the usa model number?
 
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Just so you all know, calibrating your set to someone else's set is not ideal. Every TV, no matter if it is the same make and model, will have different particulars and will require a custom calibration.
Some things are universal, and you may get a better picture from copying someone else's settings, but for the best results, hire a professional calibrator or buy a calibration kit.

Always keep the sharpness down low, if not at 0, than near 0. Make sure your not losing any detail in the "highlights" or "shadows" of the image by adjusting the contrast and brightness. Always turn off edge enhancement, and DNR (Digital Noise Reduction).

Another note, grain is NATURAL. It is part of the movie. MOST movies will have grain, some more so than others. If you think your set looks grainy, put in a movie like Cars or Ratatouille, something computer generated/animated, cause these are direct digital transfers with no film involved. If they look grainy, there is something wrong with your settings. If they look crystal clear, you are set right.
Grain is a natural and important part of film. Even digital film used digital grain, for many reasons. Film uses grain to capture the information of the light onto the film, this grain is literally the stuff that holds the image together. If you remove the grain, you remove the image. If you reduce the grain, you destroy the details of the image.
Digital grain, for movies like 300, are used to obtain many different things. First and foremost, grain adds detail, and the perception of detail, to a movie. While a camera is not always 100% focused on the subject, the grain will be able to give you the details you need to obtain that focused look. In fact, the same type of thing is used in sound, called dither. Some equipment (video and audio) will "crush" the data it captures, in other words it will turn all the dark information totally black and the bright totally white (for audio it is for the quietest of sounds). But with dither or grain, the machine actually captured more details by seeing the grain there and deliberately looks for more information.
Also, grain is used to obtain a look, or feel. The gritty grainy look of 300 was intended by adding as much grain as it has. This gives it that dirty look they want.
Finally, grain adds a screen to hide digital effects. In 300, most, if not all, of the backgrounds were digital. In order to hide the difference between real actors and digital terrain (analog and digital mediums), grain is applied to disguise the effect that would otherwise stand out like a sore thumb.

With the grain in place on digitally captured movies, you see more information for the subtle details that would be otherwise lost, you get am idea of the feel of the movie, and you can blend digital effects with live action.

So grain is our friend, and something you should not be scared of. The reason you never noticed it before is simple, DVD is not detailed enough. Standard Definition can not pick up the details of the grain of most movies, and so people forget that it is even there, and seeing it on a TV often throws people off. But it is there n purpose, it is suppose to be there, and it has a good, important reason to be there.
Some studios use DNR (digital noise reduction) to reduce the effect of the grain in their movies, but that often leads to poor quality releases. Movies like Patton and Pan's Labyrinth have suffered from this. I have compared Pan's Labyrinth, and I say to you that due to the DNR applied, the DVD actually looks better than the Blu-ray!
So remember, grain good.
 
Old 12-30-2008, 06:34 PM   #6
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Just so you all know, calibrating your set to someone else's set is not ideal. Every TV, no matter if it is the same make and model, will have different particulars and will require a custom calibration.
Some things are universal, and you may get a better picture from copying someone else's settings, but for the best results, hire a professional calibrator or buy a calibration kit.

Always keep the sharpness down low, if not at 0, than near 0. Make sure your not losing any detail in the "highlights" or "shadows" of the image by adjusting the contrast and brightness. Always turn off edge enhancement, and DNR (Digital Noise Reduction).

Another note, grain is NATURAL. It is part of the movie. MOST movies will have grain, some more so than others. If you think your set looks grainy, put in a movie like Cars or Ratatouille, something computer generated/animated, cause these are direct digital transfers with no film involved. If they look grainy, there is something wrong with your settings. If they look crystal clear, you are set right.
Grain is a natural and important part of film. Even digital film used digital grain, for many reasons. Film uses grain to capture the information of the light onto the film, this grain is literally the stuff that holds the image together. If you remove the grain, you remove the image. If you reduce the grain, you destroy the details of the image.
Digital grain, for movies like 300, are used to obtain many different things. First and foremost, grain adds detail, and the perception of detail, to a movie. While a camera is not always 100% focused on the subject, the grain will be able to give you the details you need to obtain that focused look. In fact, the same type of thing is used in sound, called dither. Some equipment (video and audio) will "crush" the data it captures, in other words it will turn all the dark information totally black and the bright totally white (for audio it is for the quietest of sounds). But with dither or grain, the machine actually captured more details by seeing the grain there and deliberately looks for more information.
Also, grain is used to obtain a look, or feel. The gritty grainy look of 300 was intended by adding as much grain as it has. This gives it that dirty look they want.
Finally, grain adds a screen to hide digital effects. In 300, most, if not all, of the backgrounds were digital. In order to hide the difference between real actors and digital terrain (analog and digital mediums), grain is applied to disguise the effect that would otherwise stand out like a sore thumb.

With the grain in place on digitally captured movies, you see more information for the subtle details that would be otherwise lost, you get am idea of the feel of the movie, and you can blend digital effects with live action.

So grain is our friend, and something you should not be scared of. The reason you never noticed it before is simple, DVD is not detailed enough. Standard Definition can not pick up the details of the grain of most movies, and so people forget that it is even there, and seeing it on a TV often throws people off. But it is there n purpose, it is suppose to be there, and it has a good, important reason to be there.
Some studios use DNR (digital noise reduction) to reduce the effect of the grain in their movies, but that often leads to poor quality releases. Movies like Patton and Pan's Labyrinth have suffered from this. I have compared Pan's Labyrinth, and I say to you that due to the DNR applied, the DVD actually looks better than the Blu-ray!
So remember, grain good.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to inform me, thank you. But what do you define as grain, i define it as pixelating (like when someone records summin on their mobile phone?
Thanks
 
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so are pixel ating and grain the same think or am i missing something
 
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we have a whole section devoted to sharing display settings.


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