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![]() NEO NOIR Definition of Neo Film Noir Wikipedia List of Neo Noir Films A constantly developing genre, film noir began to push against its own boundaries with transitional films like Sweet Smell of Success, Touch of Evil and Vertigo. In the 1950s film noir evolved into Neo Noir. Hardboiled stories with an existential dread, fatally flawed characters with no good choices, savage violence, an introspective darkness and the cruel twist of fate are still present in Neo Noir, but private eyes, plodding cops, hapless protagonists, femme fatales and the need for justice to be served are not always present. Not every Neo Noir dispenses with the cliches of classic film noir, but many do. Neo Noir is not the exact same thing as film noir. There are significant differences. List: [Show spoiler] Sets and Collections: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1960 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1961-1970 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1971-1980 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1981-1990 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1991-2000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2001-2010 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2011-2020 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2021-2030 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Neo Noir Television: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Related Threads: Official Film Noir on blu-ray Pre-Code and Early Talkie Films on blu-ray Links: Essential Nordic Noir Further Reading: American Neo Noir: The Movie Never Ends - by Alain Silver and James Ursini Detours and Lost Highways: A Map of Neo Noir - by Foster Hirsch The Philosophy of Neo-Noir (Popular Culture Series) - by Mark T. Conrad Neo-Noir - edited by Mark Bould, foreward by Mike Hodges Neo-Noir as Post-Classical Hollywood Cinema - by Robert Arnett Neo-Noir: Contemporary Film Noir from Chinatown to The Dark Knight - by Douglas Keesey NeoNoir: The New Film Noir Style from Psycho to Collateral - by Ronald Schwartz John Dahl and Neo-Noir: Examining Auteurism and Genre - by Paul Monaco Encyclopedia of Television Noir 1949-2024 - by Vincent Terrace TV Noir: Dark Drama on the Small Screen - by Alan Glover The Philosophy of TV Noir (Popular Culture Series) - by Steven Sanders and Aoen J. Skoble Last edited by Richard--W; 09-07-2025 at 01:00 AM. Reason: update to reflect evolved content |
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I've done a lot of shopping off that thread since I joined up here. MifuneFan runs a neat & tidy ship. Since she does not object, and has invited a deeper look, I thought I would take a more expansive look into Neo Noir. Film Noir and Neo Noir are not necessarily the exact same thing. There are significant differences. This new thread is meant to compliment MifuneFan's outstanding work here. It's going to grow larger as more titles are added. I hope everyone will enjoy it and invite your participation. Last edited by Richard--W; 08-22-2025 at 05:59 AM. |
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![]() ![]() Walking Tall was a drive-in hit in 1973. This modern neo-noir classic struck a chord with audiences. A Tennessee sheriff is maimed and disfigured by organized criminals who are corrupting town government to ignore vice and gambling, which the people seem to want. He comes back from hospital months later to finish the town clean-up he had started. The people don't particularly want his help, and tragedy will be visited upon his family. The plot resembles The Phenix City Story (1955), also directed by Phil Karlson, but it's based on the life of Sheriff Buford Pusser, whose story had filled newspapers in the early 1960s. Karlson also directed the film noir classics Dark Alibi (1946), Scandal Sheet, Kansas City Confidential (both 1952) and 99 River Street (1953) among others. When I saw the film, the audience response was the same as in the trailer: Last edited by Richard--W; 08-22-2025 at 11:44 PM. |
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Thanks given by: | Richard--W (09-05-2025) |
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![]() ![]() Delighted to find that Leonard Shrader's underrated and overlooked neo-noir Naked Tango (1990) has been transferred to blu-ray in Japan. This very potent noir had a VHS release in the 1990s but no DVD or blu-ray anywhere, until now. Mathilda May (the space vampire in Lifeforce) stars as a French girl on her way to Argentina in the 1920s for a pre-arranged marriage, only to discover on the boat that she has been tricked, and will be forced to work in a brothel against her will. Her predicament is based on actual circumstances. She tries to escape, and when that doesn't work, tries to trick the brothel keepers into thinking she has succumbed to her carnal desires so that they will not watch her too closely. The film conjures up a nightmare atmosphere with pools of light and shadow and splashes of red. The period detail is authentic. The tango dances with a skinny Vincent D'Onofrio would make Rudolph Valentino blush. This film goes where Paramount could not go in 1921. The late Leonard Shrader co-wrote some of his brother Paul's early films, and he is the only credited writer of Kiss of the Spider Woman (I'm not a fan). Naked Tango is the only film he directed and wrote, I think. The blu-ray is region A, in native English with subtitled Spanish passages, and can be found on ebay. Don't hesitate. Buy it now. Last edited by Richard--W; 08-26-2025 at 10:28 PM. |
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Awesome thread!
Not a movie, but I highly recommend this book for reference. ![]() |
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Thanks given by: | Richard--W (08-28-2025) |
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I'm on the fence about The Passenger, which appears on a few authoritative lists. I'm not removing The Godfather. The Godfather may be other things before it's a noir, but it's also a noir, and a highly evolved noir both visually and dramatically. It's as hardboiled as any noir from the 1940s. How people can miss the darkness at the heart of this story just mystifies me. Last edited by Richard--W; 08-29-2025 at 09:26 PM. |
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That notwithstanding, I'll never think of it as a noir. Who's the poor-sap protagonist? The femme fatale? The compromised lawman fighting against and/or succumbing to the darkness? To me, at least one of those characters is necessary for a noir. But then, maybe I'm just a traditionalist! |
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Thanks given by: | Richard--W (08-30-2025) |
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Film noir evolved into Neo noir. You can see the genre refining itself by the late 1950s. Neo noir is allowed to dig deeper into the dark side of human nature and to expand the boundaries providing that it "plays the scene" as they say. I would not describe The Godfather films as "glorified gangster films" because there is a rich subtext in them that separates and elevates them from the the standard shoot 'em up. Each film is a multi-layered story. Michael starts out as the well-intentioned protagonist who gradually succumbs to corruption and his own inner darkness. His rise to power is a fall from grace, and a spiritual struggle for him as he does evil to do good for his family. He is inherently flawed and cannot rise above it. I don't think "prince of darkness" is a fair shingle to hang around Gordon Willis' neck. Most of his films were not darkly lit; look at his work for Woody Allen, for example. The Godfather is a color film that's timed like black & white. You can see deep into the shadows. He talks about this in interviews. Contrast and color saturation were dependent on Technicolor's analog dye- transfer process (which the digital realm fails to replicate, and why I didn't include the 4K's which are a travesty). Coppola's tableau compositions are meant to echo the pictorialism of Mervyn LeRoy's and Howard Hawks' gangster films in the 1930s. His other films are not composed or lit like The Godfather films. |
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As for Gordon Willis, you may have noted my half-smiley, since I was referring to the title he was popularly given by contemporary critics and fellow filmmakers. His work with Woody aside, the man was responsible for The Parallax View and Klute, prime examples of his (then-unprecedented) ability to keep characters in the dark. And while your point is taken re: the evolution from classic noir to neo noir, I still don't believe that makes the brush so broad as to include straight-up thrillers (The French Connection, Blow Out), rape-revenge films (Death Wish, Ms. 45), gangster movies (including Scarface and the obvious Scorsese), arthouse weirdness (Down By Law, Blue Velvet, Eyes Wide Shut) or really anything by Bob Fosse. But that's just my opinion, of course! |
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