Dark Knight Encode Problem And Question? Pls Help! - Blu-ray Forum

Oberron · 12-31-2008, 11:38 PM

I finally had a chance to watch the Dark Knight and seem to have found a problem. In chapter 35 at the 02:10:53 mark it pixelates for one frame then again at the 02:10:54 mark for four frames. Can anyone check to see if your having the same issue? I exchanged the disc three times at different best buys but all had the same issue. Also, does anyone have a telephone number or an e-mail for Warner Bros? I hope they will exchange it, or ill have to get a refund. I currently use a PS3 for my blu-ray player with the most current firmware update. Thx for any help!

Snpbond · 12-31-2008, 11:43 PM

I have watched the movie 3 times on 2 different tvs and have noticed nothing other than a picture-perfect movie. Perhaps its your PS3, its an odd thing to happen at the same time every time. When I get home I might look into it if someone else hasn't.

neos_peace · 12-31-2008, 11:45 PM

I have a PS3 as my BD player and watched it 2X so far and havn't really noticed anything.

TheForce8686 · 12-31-2008, 11:46 PM

I am watching it right now and didnt notice that all.

DVD FOREVER · 01-01-2009, 07:52 AM

Oberron- I believe I know the sequence you are taking about. Is it when Batman is getting in the fight with the Joker and he's confused where the Joker is? Believe it or not but those bad or pixelated frames are supposed to represent when Batman's sonar vision gets screwed up.

I saw it the first time I watched it and immediately thought that Warner Bros. messed up again like the terrible mistake on The Matrix Revolutions Blu-ray. I asked a friend of mine to check out his standard DVD and he told me in frame by frame mode that it was there also and very noticeable.

It appears that this was done on purpose especially since this is on the standard DVD too. No matter how many copies you get, it will always be on there. If this was a mistake it wouldn't just be on a few copies but all of them especially if it was an encode or master error. Very good catch by the way as I can see some people without a trained eye missing this. I do QC in the DVD world and it stood out to me right away.

Happy New Year!!!

lgans316 · 01-01-2009, 09:29 AM

Thanks a ton DVD FOREVER.

Snpbond · 01-01-2009, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVD FOREVER

Oberron- I believe I know the sequence you are taking about. Is it when Batman is getting in the fight with the Joker and he's confused where the Joker is? Believe it or not but those bad or pixelated frames are supposed to represent when Batman's sonar vision gets screwed up.

I saw it the first time I watched it and immediately thought that Warner Bros. messed up again like the terrible mistake on The Matrix Revolutions Blu-ray. I asked a friend of mine to check out his standard DVD and he told me in frame by frame mode that it was there also and very noticeable.

It appears that this was done on purpose especially since this is on the standard DVD too. No matter how many copies you get, it will always be on there. If this was a mistake it wouldn't just be on a few copies but all of them especially if it was an encode or master error. Very good catch by the way as I can see some people without a trained eye missing this. I do QC in the DVD world and it stood out to me right away.

Happy New Year!!!

Guess I wouldn't have noticed it there anyways then

Whats the mistake on the Matrix!? I was thinking about buying it but how big of a mistake did they make?

beefytwinkie · 01-01-2009, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snpbond

Guess I wouldn't have noticed it there anyways then

Whats the mistake on the Matrix!? I was thinking about buying it but how big of a mistake did they make?

About as big as Toshiba trying to compete with Sony. OMG. pwnxz0rzrxed.

JackStraw · 01-01-2009, 03:40 PM

My copy keeps shifting aspect ratios at certain times. Wonder if I got a bum copy.

I'm just kidding!!!!!!!!!

Oberron · 01-01-2009, 04:47 PM

Yikes, I can't believe I switched that disc out three times for something that was meant to be there. Thank You very much DvD Forever for letting me know, as it was driving me crazy. I was beginning think no-one else noticed it. Iam just starting to build a modest home theater in my home with a 106 inch screen and i can imagine how something like that will be magnified. Thx again for your input.

Happy New year everyone!

Jamoctopus · 01-01-2009, 05:39 PM

I've had no problem.

got it from best buy!

DVD FOREVER · 01-02-2009, 01:55 AM

http://home.earthlink.net/~jmorg/matrix/Matrix.htm

SNPBOND- here's the error on The Matrix Revolutions and it has been confirmed that it is on the glass master used to stamp all the actual Blu-ray discs. Just go to the link and you'll get an explanation. After I noticed this mistake, I had my friend create the link. Warner Bros. is aware of the problem so hopefully they will have a recall like they did with the T3 Blu-ray last year.

This may not bother everyone and some people haven't even seen it but it's an error that should have never made it to the actual replicated discs so the WB needs to honor the mistake and make an offer of a replacement. Compression errors/master errors like this bug the hell out of me since QC technicians are hired to catch these kind of mistakes. As far as the Dark Knight pixelated frames, that's on purpose but The Matrix issue on Revolutions is a mistake and is on every single Blu-ray in all the box sets. No one has a copy without this error no matter what anyone says.

DVD FOREVER · 01-02-2009, 02:05 AM

Oberron- you are welcome. I hope you enjoy your home theater and have a good time building a new Blu-ray library.

One thing for everyone to also check out is this error on the extended DVD cut of Return of the King. http://home.earthlink.net/~jmorg/LOTR.htm

Despite it being 4 years later and only on DVD, I was always amazed that no one ever commented on this since it was a major mistake on a major A title.

It's still there as it was never fixed or never given a green light to fix by anybody at New Line. Once the movie comes to Blu-ray, I do hope that people doing the QC will have their eyes opened.

zachishere · 01-02-2009, 03:58 PM

hey does any one know if there is a menu that shows on batman the dark knight before the actually movie starts. like a selection movie because my copy goes directly to it. it happens with othe movies i have such as superbad and a couple others

owa · 01-02-2009, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachishere

hey does any one know if there is a menu that shows on batman the dark knight before the actually movie starts. like a selection movie because my copy goes directly to it. it happens with othe movies i have such as superbad and a couple others

I can't tell if you're joking or not but most Warner titles start playing the movie automatically and don't have a main menu. They use the pop-up menu. I wouldn't mind that practice as much if they'd default to lossless audio.

12-31-2008, 11:38 PM	#1
Oberron Junior Member Member since:Aug 2008	Dark Knight Encode Problem And Question? Pls Help! I finally had a chance to watch the Dark Knight and seem to have found a problem. In chapter 35 at the 02:10:53 mark it pixelates for one frame then again at the 02:10:54 mark for four frames. Can anyone check to see if your having the same issue? I exchanged the disc three times at different best buys but all had the same issue. Also, does anyone have a telephone number or an e-mail for Warner Bros? I hope they will exchange it, or ill have to get a refund. I currently use a PS3 for my blu-ray player with the most current firmware update. Thx for any help!

01-02-2009, 01:55 AM	#12
DVD FOREVER Member Member since:Oct 2008	http://home.earthlink.net/~jmorg/matrix/Matrix.htm SNPBOND- here's the error on The Matrix Revolutions and it has been confirmed that it is on the glass master used to stamp all the actual Blu-ray discs. Just go to the link and you'll get an explanation. After I noticed this mistake, I had my friend create the link. Warner Bros. is aware of the problem so hopefully they will have a recall like they did with the T3 Blu-ray last year. This may not bother everyone and some people haven't even seen it but it's an error that should have never made it to the actual replicated discs so the WB needs to honor the mistake and make an offer of a replacement. Compression errors/master errors like this bug the hell out of me since QC technicians are hired to catch these kind of mistakes. As far as the Dark Knight pixelated frames, that's on purpose but The Matrix issue on Revolutions is a mistake and is on every single Blu-ray in all the box sets. No one has a copy without this error no matter what anyone says. Last edited by DVD FOREVER; 01-02-2009 at 01:59 AM.

01-02-2009, 03:58 PM	#14
zachishere New Member Member since:Jan 2009	menu hey does any one know if there is a menu that shows on batman the dark knight before the actually movie starts. like a selection movie because my copy goes directly to it. it happens with othe movies i have such as superbad and a couple others

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12-31-2008, 11:43 PM	#2
Snpbond Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:60	I have watched the movie 3 times on 2 different tvs and have noticed nothing other than a picture-perfect movie. Perhaps its your PS3, its an odd thing to happen at the same time every time. When I get home I might look into it if someone else hasn't.

12-31-2008, 11:45 PM	#3
neos_peace Special Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Shamokin Dam, Pa Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:279 Trading Score:1	I have a PS3 as my BD player and watched it 2X so far and havn't really noticed anything.

12-31-2008, 11:46 PM	#4
TheForce8686 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2006 Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:992 Trading Score:79	I am watching it right now and didnt notice that all.

01-01-2009, 07:52 AM	#5
DVD FOREVER Member Member since:Oct 2008	Oberron- I believe I know the sequence you are taking about. Is it when Batman is getting in the fight with the Joker and he's confused where the Joker is? Believe it or not but those bad or pixelated frames are supposed to represent when Batman's sonar vision gets screwed up. I saw it the first time I watched it and immediately thought that Warner Bros. messed up again like the terrible mistake on The Matrix Revolutions Blu-ray. I asked a friend of mine to check out his standard DVD and he told me in frame by frame mode that it was there also and very noticeable. It appears that this was done on purpose especially since this is on the standard DVD too. No matter how many copies you get, it will always be on there. If this was a mistake it wouldn't just be on a few copies but all of them especially if it was an encode or master error. Very good catch by the way as I can see some people without a trained eye missing this. I do QC in the DVD world and it stood out to me right away. Happy New Year!!!

01-01-2009, 09:29 AM	#6
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	Thanks a ton DVD FOREVER.

01-01-2009, 03:40 PM	#9
JackStraw Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007	My copy keeps shifting aspect ratios at certain times. Wonder if I got a bum copy. I'm just kidding!!!!!!!!!

01-01-2009, 04:47 PM	#10
Oberron Junior Member Member since:Aug 2008	Yikes, I can't believe I switched that disc out three times for something that was meant to be there. Thank You very much DvD Forever for letting me know, as it was driving me crazy. I was beginning think no-one else noticed it. Iam just starting to build a modest home theater in my home with a 106 inch screen and i can imagine how something like that will be magnified. Thx again for your input. Happy New year everyone!

01-01-2009, 05:39 PM	#11
Jamoctopus Member Member since:Dec 2008	I've had no problem. got it from best buy!

01-02-2009, 02:05 AM	#13
DVD FOREVER Member Member since:Oct 2008	Oberron- you are welcome. I hope you enjoy your home theater and have a good time building a new Blu-ray library. One thing for everyone to also check out is this error on the extended DVD cut of Return of the King. http://home.earthlink.net/~jmorg/LOTR.htm Despite it being 4 years later and only on DVD, I was always amazed that no one ever commented on this since it was a major mistake on a major A title. It's still there as it was never fixed or never given a green light to fix by anybody at New Line. Once the movie comes to Blu-ray, I do hope that people doing the QC will have their eyes opened.

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