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Old 12-26-2008, 02:08 AM   #1
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Default Pc Blu-Ray Drive Serious Performance Issues/Bugs

I just gought a nice Sony Blu Ray Player for myself from Tigerdirect for about $200, I put this into my PC And immediatly noticed a Major change in the boot time. I Immediatley formatted my Pc thinking that this was unrelated. Eventually I Reloaded all of my drivers and the new drivers for my new Blu-Ray Drive, While my the drive was reading my Movie my whole Pc crashed.

I unpluged my Drive and the performance is fine. I have A High end system,

Nvidia XFX 8800 GT XXX, 4 Gb DDr2 Ram, 600 W Power source, AMD Athlon 64 X 6000+ Cpu.

I don't quite understand what's happening, My performance has gone to hell and Exporer.exe constantly crashes. I've tried Changing options in Bios because it originally seemed as if my Pc was trying to boot from Blu Ray but this is not the case... Kind of a bummer for Christmas

Should I Buy another Blu-Ray drive (Different Model Of Course) or can this be fixed. Is this common with many Blu Ray Drives and if not how can I Fix this?

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...258&CatId=3635 << The Drive I Bought

Any Help would be appreciated! Thanks in Advance!
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:09 AM   #2
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I'm new to this as well. I built up my PC last year.

It's a Gigabyte board with the following:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3 GHz
2 GB RAM
XFX 8800 GTS w/ 640 MB RAM (XXX edition)
2 500 GB hard drives
On-board sound
650 W powersupply

To play Blu-ray, I recently added this:

LG GBC-H20L Blu-ray drive (Best Buy, $120)
Hannspree 25" widescreen LCD (Best Buy, $280)

It works great so far.

I did have to update the video card drives, the firmware for the Blu-ray drive, and the OEM copy of PowerDVD that came with the Blu-ray drive.

I can't say a new drive would help, but can it hurt?
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:55 AM   #3
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could be a SATA issue. Was your previous drive also SATA?

double check your MB drivers and make sure they are current, i dont think a firmware update is needed but never know.

Thats the only thing i can think of at the moment.
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:58 AM   #4
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I just gought a nice Sony Blu Ray Player for myself from Tigerdirect for about $200, I put this into my PC And immediatly noticed a Major change in the boot time. I Immediatley formatted my Pc thinking that this was unrelated. Eventually I Reloaded all of my drivers and the new drivers for my new Blu-Ray Drive, While my the drive was reading my Movie my whole Pc crashed.

I unpluged my Drive and the performance is fine. I have A High end system,

Nvidia XFX 8800 GT XXX, 4 Gb DDr2 Ram, 600 W Power source, AMD Athlon 64 X 6000+ Cpu.

I don't quite understand what's happening, My performance has gone to hell and Exporer.exe constantly crashes. I've tried Changing options in Bios because it originally seemed as if my Pc was trying to boot from Blu Ray but this is not the case... Kind of a bummer for Christmas

Should I Buy another Blu-Ray drive (Different Model Of Course) or can this be fixed. Is this common with many Blu Ray Drives and if not how can I Fix this?

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...258&CatId=3635 << The Drive I Bought

Any Help would be appreciated! Thanks in Advance!
First off, it's not common with BD's - usually the problem is a software or firmware update, or a BD live problem.

From what I can tell from the BD spec sheet, your system isn't powerful enough to run BD's in HD, and that would certainly go along with your symptoms as well. I'm not an AMD expert by any means, but the only thing I saw for the Athlon you have listed is that it's a 3ghz CPU., but again I don't know enough about them. But for sure the specs don't mention an AMD processor, only a Pentium 3.4ghz cpu or a 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo.

Here's the requirements - you can figure it out for yourself. It appears at leat your GPU and RAM are sufficient.

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

Pentium® D 3.4GHz or higher (Recommend Core™ 2 Duo
PLAY BD-ROM in HD QUALITY 2.4GHz or higher)
512MB RAM or more (Recommend 1GB or more)
HDCP-supported display with HDMI or DVI video input
(Recommend 1920x1080 resolution or higher)
PCI Express compatible, HDCP-supported graphic card with
HDMI or DVI video output with 256MB video RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 or ATI RADEON X1600 or higher
(Highly recommend NVIDIA GPU with PureVideo HD
technology or AIT GPU with UVD technology e.g. GeForce
8600/8500/8400 or RADEON HD2600/2400
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:02 PM   #5
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Processor
Intel Minimum:

Pentium 4 541 (3.2 GHz),
Pentium D 840 (3.2 GHz),
Pentium D 930 (3.0 GHz), 935 3.2GHz or 940 (3.2 GHz),
Core Duo T2400 (1.83 GHz),
Pentium M 755 (2.0 GHz),
Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8 GHz or T5600 1.83 GHz
Recommended:

Pentium EE 840 (3.2 GHz) or 955 (3.4 GHz) or 965 (3.73 GHz),
Pentium D 945 (3.4 GHz), 950 (3.4 GHz) or 960 (3.6 GHz),
Core Duo T2500 (2 GHz), T2600 (2.16 GHz) or T2700 (2.33 GHz),
Core 2 Duo E6300 (1.8 GHz), E6400 (2.13 GHz), E6600 (2.4 GHz), E6700 (2.66 GHz) or X6800 (2.93 GHz), T7200 (2.00 GHz), T7400 (2.16 GHz), T7600 (2.33GHz) Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4 GHz, Core 2 Extreme QX6700 2.66 GHz, or X6800 2.93 GHz

AMD Minimum:

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (2 GHz) or 4000+ (2 GHz),
Turion 64 X2 TL-50 (1.6 GHz), TL-52 (1.6 GHz) or TL-56 (1.8 GHz)
Recommended:

Athlon 64-FX, FX-60 (2.6 GHz) or FX-62 (2.8 GHz), Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (2.2 GHz), 4400+ (2.2 GHz), 4600+ (2.4 GHz), 4800+ (2.4 GHz) or 5000+ (2.6 GHz), Turion 64 X2 TL-60 (2.0 GHz)


... as per Cyberlink website:
http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/produ...n_1_en_US.html

Requirements tab.
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:32 PM   #6
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You don't need a 3Ghz processor to play Hd, i've used a 2,2Ghz before and it played just fine.
Use your money on ram instead is my tip.
But use AnyDvdHd which runs in the background with the latest version,now 6.4.9.0.
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:09 PM   #7
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Rofl, I used a Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz and 2600XT to run PowerDVD 8/WinDVD 9. All the HD codec decoding is offloaded to the 2600XT's UVD functions.


Also, he has a X2 6000+ (3.0ghz) which is way above minimum requirements (and equiv to the Core 2 Duo's 2.4 ghz) and the Nvidia 8800 series will do most of the video decoding with its Purevideo feature.
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:46 AM   #8
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single core processor need 3+ gHz
for dual core processor, 1.8+ gHz is enough
8800 purevideo don't have assisted HD playback
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:21 AM   #9
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8800 purevideo don't have assisted HD playback
Why is that?

http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo.html
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Old 01-02-2009, 10:05 AM   #10
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OP might want to update yr firmware for the BD drive as well:

http://sony.storagesupport.com/node/7187

best of luck...
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:33 PM   #11
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i installed the same drive in my vista pc late last year, it's worked flawless since i threw it in.

are you running xp or vista? XP has had "issues" with bluray playback drivers. Even though the box for this drive says it's for xp and vista.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:10 AM   #12
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8800 purevideo don't have assisted HD playback
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From http://www.nvidia.com/object/purevideo_hd_faq.html#1Q4
Q. Do the GeForce 8800 series GPUs include the same video processing capabilities as the new GeForce 8400, GeForce 8500 and GeForce 8600 GPUs?
No. The GeForce 8800 uses the previous generation of PureVideo HD. This is because the GeForce 8800 is usually paired with more powerful dual-core CPUs and our goal is to achieve balanced use of all the processing power in your machine. With the GeForce 8800, it makes sense to let these powerful CPU cores handle functions they do well. But with the lower-end GPUs, which are usually paired with less-powerful, single-core CPUs, it is better for the GPU to take on the entire video decoding and processing task and the new PureVideo HD engine has been enhanced with these chips in mind.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:22 AM   #13
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From http://www.nvidia.com/object/purevideo_hd_faq.html#1Q4
Q. Do the GeForce 8800 series GPUs include the same video processing capabilities as the new GeForce 8400, GeForce 8500 and GeForce 8600 GPUs?
No. The GeForce 8800 uses the previous generation of PureVideo HD. This is because the GeForce 8800 is usually paired with more powerful dual-core CPUs and our goal is to achieve balanced use of all the processing power in your machine. With the GeForce 8800, it makes sense to let these powerful CPU cores handle functions they do well. But with the lower-end GPUs, which are usually paired with less-powerful, single-core CPUs, it is better for the GPU to take on the entire video decoding and processing task and the new PureVideo HD engine has been enhanced with these chips in mind.

Thanks for the post. However, this doesn't imply that this is no assisted HD playback with 8800 series cards. It just not as assisted as with PCs with weaker processors and those other vidcards.
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:14 AM   #14
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Thanks for the post. However, this doesn't imply that this is no assisted HD playback with 8800 series cards. It just not as assisted as with PCs with weaker processors and those other vidcards.
To be very precise, 8800 cards do not support H.264 Decode Acceleration with IDCT and CAVLC/CABAC. They also don't support VC-1/WMV Decode Acceleration with IDCT. But they support other HD acceleration. http://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/11036/...Comparison.pdf

From the pdf spec, it looks like that the cards that support the most HD acceleration are the 8600 and 8500.

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