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Old 01-02-2009, 12:59 AM   #1
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I have a vizo 42 in hdtv and it goes up to 1080i so my display says 1080/60i I changed the format on my bd to 1080p and now its says 1080/60p how is this possible.
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I have a vizo 42 in hdtv and it goes up to 1080i so my display says 1080/60i I changed the format on my bd to 1080p and now its says 1080/60p how is this possible.
hey, before anybody comes and bashes you for posting in the wrong forum.. i'm not, but your tv might accept 1080p buy only produce 1080i. It scales it down to 1080i. Unless the TV does say it's 1080p, Full HD, etc etc.

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hey, before anybody comes and bashes you for posting in the wrong forum.. i'm not, but your tv might accept 1080p buy only produce 1080i. It scales it down to 1080i. Unless the TV does say it's 1080p, Full HD, etc etc.
You nailed it right on the head.
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Well i check my tv's specs and it says it goes up to 1080i and it does not say full hd
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:02 AM   #6
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Well i check my tv's specs and it says it goes up to 1080i and it does not say full hd
so yea, it does accept it but it only produces 1080i.
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Well i check my tv's specs and it says it goes up to 1080i and it does not say full hd
Did you even read what he posted? Your right your display doesn't do 1080p. It just converts the 1080p signal into 1080i.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I really do not believe that our eyeballs can perceive the difference between 1080i and 1080p. I watched The Universe (which is 1080i) and it looked just as good as 1080p movies like The Dark Knight.
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:30 AM   #9
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So many answers and not any corrct one :-)

Yes, some TV's support more input signal than they does in their spec. Maybe there is some combiantions with 1080p your TV will have problems and thats why they did not write it up.
All flatscreens converts 1080i (exept old Alis) to p signal and people saying it is converted to 1080i really dont have any clue.

But i am guessing this TV does not have a 1920 x 1080 resolution.
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I have a vizio 52" plasma 720p/1080i, this is a feature that vizio and some panny's do, it simply tells you that the input source is 1080p but your actual max resolution is 1080i. In other words, your display will show the source is progressive, but you're actually only getting interlaced at 1080. My PS3 will even tell me 1080i when I choose "best setting", but if I bump it up to 1080p I'll still only get 1080i but my tv says 1080p.

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Old 01-02-2009, 09:09 AM   #11
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So many answers and not any corrct one :-)

Yes, some TV's support more input signal than they does in their spec. Maybe there is some combiantions with 1080p your TV will have problems and thats why they did not write it up.
All flatscreens converts 1080i (exept old Alis) to p signal and people saying it is converted to 1080i really dont have any clue.

But i am guessing this TV does not have a 1920 x 1080 resolution.
and your answer is far from correct. But you probably got that with your last line guess.

A 1080i max tv cannot convert to 1080p - since its not a full HDTV. Its actaully only a 720p tv that deinterlaces a 1080 signal. A non-full HDTV that can do 1080i only has a native resolution of 1366x768 and actually down-scales the 1920x1080 image, so its impossible to get a full HD 1080p resolution of 1920x1080.
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I have a vizo 42 in hdtv and it goes up to 1080i so my display says 1080/60i I changed the format on my bd to 1080p and now its says 1080/60p how is this possible.
You are not me. So fundamentally speaking you are indeed lucky ...
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All flatscreens converts 1080i (exept old Alis) to p signal and people saying it is converted to 1080i really dont have any clue.
That's not entirely accurate. All fixed-pixel displays (LCD & Plasma) convert a 1080i input to a progressive image for display, but there are some native 1080i CRT televisions from the early 2000s.

That being said, it sounds like the OP has a 720p tv that is capable of accepting a 1080i signal.
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A non-full HDTV that can do 1080i only has a native resolution of 1366x768 and actually down-scales the 1920x1080 image, so its impossible to get a full HD 1080p resolution of 1920x1080.
Just to clarify, not all 720p TVs have a resolution of 1366x768. Many are 1280x720.
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and your answer is far from correct. But you probably got that with your last line guess.

A 1080i max tv cannot convert to 1080p - since its not a full HDTV. Its actaully only a 720p tv that deinterlaces a 1080 signal. A non-full HDTV that can do 1080i only has a native resolution of 1366x768 an
Philips first series of Full-HD LCD did not support 1080p input but converted 1080i to 1080p.

But in this case it is probably just a HD ready screen. It still amaze me that people dont see the difference on input signal and screen resoultion. (I can eat raw eggs (input), but that does not make me an athlete (output))

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I have a vizio 52" plasma 720p/1080i, this is a feature that vizio and some panny's do, it simply tells you that the input source is 1080p but your actual max resolution is 1080i. In other words, your display will show the source is progressive, but you're actually only getting interlaced at 1080. My PS3 will even tell me 1080i when I choose "best setting", but if I bump it up to 1080p I'll still only get 1080i but my tv says 1080p.
What is the resultion on this screen?

Do you realize that on movies a 1080i picture and 1080p picture has excatly the same picture information?
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What is the resultion on this screen?

Do you realize that on movies a 1080i picture and 1080p picture has excatly the same picture information?
It may have the same picture information, but your not getting the same picture. A 1080p display will render all lines at the same time and give you a full 1920x1080 image, while the 1080i image played on a HDTV (Not Full HD) will actually deinterlace the image down to 720p, it just simply accepts the information in the 1080i signal, but your not actually getting a 1080 resolution image. So even though the information is there, your not seeing it.

I looked at 3 tvs at a home theater store by me, all 3 the same brand, 2 where HDTV's 720p, one was set at 720p the other at 1080i, and the 3rd was a full HDTV set at 1080p. The first two, the picture was identical, the 3rd full HD was just brilliant, so much more picture detail. Not something you may totally notice at home, but side by side, it was all in the picture.
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It may have the same picture information, but your not getting the same picture. A 1080p display will render all lines at the same time and give you a full 1920x1080 image, while the 1080i image played on a HDTV (Not Full HD) will actually deinterlace the image down to 720p, it just simply accepts the information in the 1080i signal, but your not actually getting a 1080 resolution image. So even though the information is there, your not seeing it.

I looked at 3 tvs at a home theater store by me, all 3 the same brand, 2 where HDTV's 720p, one was set at 720p the other at 1080i, and the 3rd was a full HDTV set at 1080p. The first two, the picture was identical, the 3rd full HD was just brilliant, so much more picture detail. Not something you may totally notice at home, but side by side, it was all in the picture.
Sorry but your argument lack logic. I am not sure what you are trying to say?

You don't set at TV to any resolution. It takes wath it gets as input and show it in the screen resolution.

1080i movie or 1080p on a 1920 x 1080 TV will make the same picture. (correctly deinterlaced)
1080i movie and 1080p on a 1280 x 720p TV will make the same picture.(correctly deinterlaced)
1080p TV vil make better picture than 720p. (if otherwise the same)
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This thread has really made me laugh. Just about every reply has had some type of incorrect information posted. The OP says he does not have a 1080p set, so lets assume for the sake of argument that his set is 1366 x 768. It will accept a 1080p signal and scale it to his set's native resolution of 768p. There is no such thing as a flat panel display displaying a signal in 1080i. All FPTVs display a progressive image. Feed this set a 1080i signal and it will first deinterlace it and then downconvert it to 768p.

Send a 1080i signal to a 1080p set, and it will NOT be the same image as a 1080p signal. A 1080p signal (assume 60Hz) will be sending 60 full screen (1080 lines) images every second. A 1080i signal will be sending 60 half-screen (540 lines) images every second. The set will then deinterlace that signal into 30 full screen (1080 lines) images, which will be half of the information being sent from a 1080p signal. They are not the same.
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