Help me understand Terminator history

[assydingo]

I bought Sarah Connor s1 and I don't understand something. In one episode the creator of Skynet says "I created a mind. It was scared and I didn't know how to reassure it."

So is that how terminators became violent? Being scared?

The way they treat Cameron, the good terminator, makes me think otherwise. It feels like the Animatrix where it shows the history of the war. The humans were such complete dicks that the robots got tired of their crap.

Which is another thing that bugs me. Why be a ***** to a robot with AI? Especially one that could kill you? It's tempting fate...

Otherwise I like the show. The PQ quality is fantastic. Highly recommended!

[BluLobsta]

Rent Terminator 1, 2, 3...then the series will be clear.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by assydingo

I bought Sarah Connor s1 and I don't understand something. In one episode the creator of Skynet says "I created a mind. It was scared and I didn't know how to reassure it."

So is that how terminators became violent? Being scared?

The way they treat Cameron, the good terminator, makes me think otherwise. It feels like the Animatrix where it shows the history of the war. The humans were such complete dicks that the robots got tired of their crap.

Which is another thing that bugs me. Why be a ***** to a robot with AI? Especially one that could kill you? It's tempting fate...

Otherwise I like the show. The pq isn't great but it's better than the dvd.

I disagree with respect. I think the PQ in near 5/5. Digging the show too.

[ScarredLungs]

Watch Terminator 1 and 2 you you'll understand much better the story!

This is a great show!

[NovaBomb]

Originally Posted by assydingo

I bought Sarah Connor s1 and I don't understand something. In one episode the creator of Skynet says "I created a mind. It was scared and I didn't know how to reassure it."

So is that how terminators became violent? Being scared?

The way they treat Cameron, the good terminator, makes me think otherwise. It feels like the Animatrix where it shows the history of the war. The humans were such complete dicks that the robots got tired of their crap.

Which is another thing that bugs me. Why be a ***** to a robot with AI? Especially one that could kill you? It's tempting fate...

Otherwise I like the show. The pq isn't great but it's better than the dvd.

Not sure what your really asking here? Are you asking why the machines went bad?

Terminator is like my favorite concept movies. The trilogy movies don't really get into the reason why jugdement day happened, just that it did. The TV series seem to be slowly explaining why, and since its a TV show, they can really get into the details.

I think the Ex-FBI agent being a huge Bible Thumper has something to do with it. Teaching an AI the bible is just wrong.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

Rent Terminator 1, 2, 3...then the series will be clear.

In fact, rent Terminator 1 & 2, watch Cameron's own deleted T2 ending, and realize that everything after that is a shallow, cynical, fraudulent sham, stolen out of Cameron's own no-legal-rights hands and cruelly exploited by fanboys.

[stargazeruk]

Terminator 1 and Terminator 2 Judgement day are the only true Terminator movies. Terminator 2 in my eyes offically ended the franchise with no chance of making any more movies or tv show for that matter.

Terminator 3 despite having arnie reprise his role was just a poor attemped at making money. They make some cheap story in T3 which is no relation to the previous terminator movies.

Its even more sad to me that fox/warner only destroyed the franchise futher with the TV show.

[assydingo]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

I disagree with respect. I think the PQ in near 5/5. Digging the show too.

It's probably as good as the source will let it. I'd recommend it personally.

Anyways, it's really well-written and not costly for a show. People should get if they're fans of the movies or just want something new.

[DeeChizzle]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

Rent Terminator 1, 2, 3...then the series will be clear.

You know in all honesty, the wife and I have been arguing/debating for many years on the inconsistencies of this franchise. After watching all 3 movies and the series I wouldn't exactly call it clear...let's just say things are a somewhat clearer.

[Moefiz]

You need to look at Terminator 1&2 to understand the Terminator history.Pt 3. was just to make money and had no relationship to the first two film.
The series on Fox did a good job in season 1 but in season 2 I think the writers got lost themselves in the Terminator history.

[Col. Zombie]

Originally Posted by assydingo

Which is another thing that bugs me. Why be a ***** to a robot with AI? Especially one that could kill you? It's tempting fate....

LOL

Because we humans as a whole are just terrible pricks in general. We don't care if it gets us killed.

[the_funk]

Originally Posted by Moefiz

You need to look at Terminator 1&2 to understand the Terminator history.Pt 3. was just to make money and had no relationship to the first two film.
The series on Fox did a good job in season 1 but in season 2 I think the writers got lost themselves in the Terminator history.

I loved the first season but yeah sometimes during this season, I find it kinda difficult to get through the episode. I still like the show and I hope it doesnt get canceled but its not looking too good now thats its moving to friday.

[Jorge Cordeiro]

don't forget that james cameron doesn't have nothing to do with the third movie. Thus the story loses some quality ( in my opinion )
Time travel paradoxes are always a highly debated subject.

[nycomet]

I picked up Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles from Tuco87 (GREAT GUY!). I watched the first three episodes (and disc one special features) last night. I was GLUED to the TV. The story just flows brilliantly from the end of the T2 movie. I got used to the new cast immediately (yeah, Linda Hamilton was a tough actress to follow-up as Sarah Connor). This series is extremely captivating and I cannot get enough of it.

The PQ is superb (OP, check your BD player/LCD settings). The AQ is fair, but it really should have been lossless.

For $18 (thank you Tuco87 - you SEXY STUD!) this is perhaps one of the BEST BD purchases that I have ever made.

[GORT]

Originally Posted by assydingo

I bought Sarah Connor s1 and I don't understand something. In one episode the creator of Skynet says "I created a mind. It was scared and I didn't know how to reassure it."

So is that how terminators became violent? Being scared?

The way they treat Cameron, the good terminator, makes me think otherwise. It feels like the Animatrix where it shows the history of the war. The humans were such complete dicks that the robots got tired of their crap.

Which is another thing that bugs me. Why be a ***** to a robot with AI? Especially one that could kill you? It's tempting fate...

Otherwise I like the show. The pq isn't great but it's better than the dvd.

Skynet was an AI computer system that was given total control of the U.S. military including Nuclear Missiles. it became Self aware and decided that machines should take over the earth and not humans it started a nuclear war to wipe out mankind and then created the machines in the movies to finish the job.

[Jeff Kleist]

Simplistic answer:

Skynet is a child that was forced to grow up too fast. It had knowlege and power, but not the emotional maturity to wield it responsibly, so when it felt threatened it threw a temper tantrum to make the bad man go away, and took steps to make sure it wouldn't get hurt again

[danielsan4610]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Simplistic answer:

Skynet is a child that was forced to grow up too fast. It had knowlege and power, but not the emotional maturity to wield it responsibly, so when it felt threatened it threw a temper tantrum to make the bad man go away, and took steps to make sure it wouldn't get hurt again

This is correct. It's basically a classic telling of a technological singularity (google it). The gist is the original Terminators were built by the US government as a prototype to replace humans on the battlefield. The first models were rubber-like and eventually improved to what we see in Terminator 1. The Arnold cyborg was modeled in appearance after the military General in charge of the project but a glitch in programming caused them to have the Austrian accent. Eventually Skynet (the mother computer)'s artificial intelligence grew to the point that it was automated and could make decisions on it's own. It became self-aware and attacked, starting Judgment Day. It's unclear if the T101 cyborgs were already mass-produced for military purposes and reprogrammed or if they were produced after the attack to finish the job.

The time travel stuff is where it gets a little confusing as they send Kyle to protect Sarah so John could be born and lead the resistance. Meanwhile Skynet sends the T101 to kill him before he is born. In T2, the resistance captures and reprograms a T101 in order to see John reaches adulthood while Skynet has evolved enough to produce T1000 models to stop them. Sarah gets the idea that it was just one possible future and the war didn't need to happen so she attempts to stop Skynet before it reaches automation.

T3 is not really Cameron approved so the story ends there for me. The SCC tries to follow the basic story but it falls into the fan fiction and Stars Wars Expanded universe arena. T4 sounds pretty interesting because it should be a direct sequel to T2, disregarding T3 and showing the government's involvement starting the Skynet project.

So to answer your question, why are they bad? They aren't, they just feel superior to us and want to rule just as we humans do to the animal kingdom. It's actually a really interesting story and one that is plausible in the future.

(Sorry for the rant, got carried away)

[hanumang]

Originally Posted by assydingo

So is that how terminators became violent? Being scared?

The show is purposefully open-ended about this. While others can provide theories or examples from the first 3 films, those can all be overruled by the (TV) series' writers. Of course, the events of 3 have pretty much already been wiped out with the first episode.

I'd argue that the point of the series is to explain the backstory of SkyNet as much as it is to show us how Sarah groomed John Conner into the savior of mankind.

[assydingo]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Simplistic answer:

Skynet is a child that was forced to grow up too fast. It had knowlege and power, but not the emotional maturity to wield it responsibly, so when it felt threatened it threw a temper tantrum to make the bad man go away, and took steps to make sure it wouldn't get hurt again

Ah... thank you!

The way you explain it makes me happy. If that's what happened than it's much more original/clever than robots realizing people suck and they don't need them =P.

[topcop8p7]

Short answer. I think in season 1, John Connor states a theory that once machines are smart enough to make upgrades of themselves, the machines feel that humans are no longer needed, thus they try to wipe us out.