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View Poll Results: Would you upgrade to HVD (Holographic Versatile Disc)?
Yes, for the resolution. Even if not BD/DVD compatible 43 40.95%
Yes, but ONLY if it was BD/DVD compatible 38 36.19%
No. Blu-ray is enough. Those resolutions are overkill 24 22.86%
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:34 PM   #1
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Question Would you upgrade to HVD if it were blu-ray compatible?

Please vote in the poll. The future of hi-def media may depend on it!

HVD is Holographic Versitile Disc and holds a reported 3.9 Terabytes of data on a standard size disc. That kind of storage technology is hard to ignore with talk of 1600p and 4k resolution TV monitors. Not to mention the newer DisplayPort spec.

Don't get too excited yet as the technology is still not fully developed. I do not work for any blu-ray related company. I just find this to be interesting market research.

Personally, if blu-ray ever gave way to HVD I would gladly switch as long as it was backwards compatible. Blu-ray is so good I doubt I would have to double dip on most of the movies. No harm, no foul. Right?

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Old 10-16-2008, 03:36 PM   #2
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When this technology is as viable and accessible for public consumption as HDTV and Blu Ray is now, then Blu Ray will be as relevant to me as DVD is now.

If I stopped moving with technology at what I thought was the best and brightest at the time, I'd still be listening to music via a boombox.

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Old 10-16-2008, 04:05 PM   #3
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Honestly, I think BD is enough as far as resolution goes. However who knows what technology may bring...
I would be willing to upgrade as long as it supported BD and DVD as well. Also, as long as it was priced right and was not too difficult to upgrade to.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:26 PM   #4
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I voted yes, but it is with a caveat. They would have to have a commensurate increase in the transfer rate as well. I "assumed" they would so I voted positive for HVD. How else am I going to truly appreciate my paint on, wall sized, OLED tv? I don't have one now, but we're talking about the future!
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:47 PM   #5
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BD players/drives have two lasers now, would this mean drives would need a third laser?
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:11 PM   #6
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BD players/drives have two lasers now, would this mean drives would need a third laser?
Would need 4. If I understand it correctly as I quickly went over the material, one laser reads, the other acts as a guide to keep it on track. I believe the read laser for HVD is green so forget combining them into one to support BD and HVD.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:19 PM   #7
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Yes, I would.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:24 PM   #8
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I'd make the jump as I'm a firm believer in supporting superior technology even if it means making sacrifices.

I'd still have my PS3 to play my Blu-Rays and I'm sure that PS4 (which I'll purchase) will support Blu-Ray and then PS5 would support HVD and no doubt Blu-Ray as well. So in the long run, I'm probably not sacrificing much.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:46 PM   #9
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Would need 4. If I understand it correctly as I quickly went over the material, one laser reads, the other acts as a guide to keep it on track. I believe the read laser for HVD is green so forget combining them into one to support BD and HVD.
So much for backwards compatability, huh?
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:47 PM   #10
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:51 PM   #11
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Would you buy a 2 megapixel Digital camera? The resolution is enough?
4K is 8 megapixel and UHD is about 25-32 megapixel. I don't know what the equivalent to 35mm film is, but I know it's a lot higher than 2mp. Hopefully, films soon move to 48fps. I would upgrade if there is a significant improvement, and make the disc fully enclosed in a cartridge like XDCAM, so that the only way it can be damaged, is with a sledgehammer.
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:22 PM   #12
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what is with the love of cartridges? they're bulky and ugly looking usually. i much prefer discs to cartridges and i grew with cartridge video games. yeah, discs can be damaged. but if you're careful with them they won't be. it doesn't take much to be careful and not clumsy.
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:24 AM   #13
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Why don't you go and have a look at XDCAM? What is with defending studios making money on reselling the same stuff when people need to replace damaged media? And deliberately making it damageable. Obviously it's not good enough for archival. By the way XDCAM is a blue laser optical disc, inside a cartridge, not like your old Nintendo games. It was developed by Sony... just like the consumer variant "Blu-ray." So you think their consumer version is better than their professional version?
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:42 AM   #14
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i would upgrade to the new format as long as it provided me with a benefit. im guessing that by the time blu-ray is need of an upgrade, i will have a big, extremely high resolution OLED (or better) that will be able to take advantage of a higher resolution and bitrate than blu-ray can offer. i didnt upgrade to blu-ray for the hell of it, i upgraded because it offered me a better experience than DVD could
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:00 PM   #15
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Why don't you go and have a look at XDCAM? What is with defending studios making money on reselling the same stuff when people need to replace damaged media? And deliberately making it damageable. Obviously it's not good enough for archival. By the way XDCAM is a blue laser optical disc, inside a cartridge, not like your old Nintendo games. It was developed by Sony... just like the consumer variant "Blu-ray." So you think their consumer version is better than their professional version?
i checked the xdcam and while the purplish looking one is alright i think on the whole their ugly. they sort of remind of some disc you used to have put in a computer. i'm just not all that thrilled with xdcam. i'm fine with the current consumer product. otherwise i wouldn't be buying it. i haven't damaged it yet. i thought that blu-rays were designed to be sturdy and strong anyway.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:29 PM   #16
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@ chevypower,
Blu-ray's at first were in 'cartridges', but that didn't fly....so (thank god) they ended up hard coated. I didn't want a bunch of 25$ "8tracks" anyway
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:35 PM   #17
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I think the technology would only benefit those people with extremely expensive set ups. Seriously for that resolution upgrade you would need at least a 100" screen. When your talking that kind of technology your not talking about people that own TV's, your talking about people who are fanatics (wealthy ones at that).

Its ok saying you want something. I was hoping BD was the end of the road for the mainstream consumer, it adds worth to something to know its at least got value for the rest of my lifetime.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:43 PM   #18
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Realistically, I beleive most people that found their way to this forum would actually adopt whatever follows blu-ray. I started scouring the forum in late 2006, as that is when I bought my PS3. At the time, that was the best "bang for my buck" blu-ray player, and when something defeats blu-ray, I will most certainly double, triple, and in some cases quadruple dip.
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So much for backwards compatability, huh?
It could be done, it would just be a pretty large read head. I believe the guide laser for HVD is red, so technically they MAY be able to give it double duty for DVD use.

I'll leave it to the bannana heads to figure out.

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Old 10-17-2008, 02:35 PM   #20
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Honestly, I think I've come to the point where I'm done upgrading. I went from VHS to laserdisc to DVD and now blu-ray. I've realized that I'm happy enough with blu-ray, it looks and sounds amazing and the promise of some new format off in the horizon doesn't appeal to me as it once might have.

On the screen size I have, I just don't think another format is really gonna make that much of a difference in my movie-watching satisfaction. Blu-ray makes the picture and sound as crystal clear as I need them to be, and I really don't feel like replacing my entire movie collection again as I'm now up to quadruple-dip figures on some of my favorites.

Even on much larger sets and projection systems, blu-ray remains crystal clear and blows away every format that came before it. I'm just not 100% convinced that there is THAT much more room for improvement, or even the need for more improvement at the home video level. I mean, we might as well start buying 35mm prints at that point.

Bottom Line: I don't think I'll be able to discern the difference, which is the point where I stop upgrading.

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