Would you upgrade to HVD if it were blu-ray compatible?

[tron3]

Originally Posted by dadkins

BD players/drives have two lasers now, would this mean drives would need a third laser?

Would need 4. If I understand it correctly as I quickly went over the material, one laser reads, the other acts as a guide to keep it on track. I believe the read laser for HVD is green so forget combining them into one to support BD and HVD.

[Septimus Prime]

Yes, I would.

[Marine Mike]

I'd make the jump as I'm a firm believer in supporting superior technology even if it means making sacrifices.

I'd still have my PS3 to play my Blu-Rays and I'm sure that PS4 (which I'll purchase) will support Blu-Ray and then PS5 would support HVD and no doubt Blu-Ray as well. So in the long run, I'm probably not sacrificing much.

[Elandyll]

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[Chevypower]

Would you buy a 2 megapixel Digital camera? The resolution is enough?
4K is 8 megapixel and UHD is about 25-32 megapixel. I don't know what the equivalent to 35mm film is, but I know it's a lot higher than 2mp. Hopefully, films soon move to 48fps. I would upgrade if there is a significant improvement, and make the disc fully enclosed in a cartridge like XDCAM, so that the only way it can be damaged, is with a sledgehammer.

[fighthefutureofhd]

what is with the love of cartridges? they're bulky and ugly looking usually. i much prefer discs to cartridges and i grew with cartridge video games. yeah, discs can be damaged. but if you're careful with them they won't be. it doesn't take much to be careful and not clumsy.

[Chevypower]

Why don't you go and have a look at XDCAM? What is with defending studios making money on reselling the same stuff when people need to replace damaged media? And deliberately making it damageable. Obviously it's not good enough for archival. By the way XDCAM is a blue laser optical disc, inside a cartridge, not like your old Nintendo games. It was developed by Sony... just like the consumer variant "Blu-ray." So you think their consumer version is better than their professional version?

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by tron3

Would need 4. If I understand it correctly as I quickly went over the material, one laser reads, the other acts as a guide to keep it on track. I believe the read laser for HVD is green so forget combining them into one to support BD and HVD.

So much for backwards compatability, huh?

[tron3]

Originally Posted by dadkins

So much for backwards compatability, huh?

It could be done, it would just be a pretty large read head. I believe the guide laser for HVD is red, so technically they MAY be able to give it double duty for DVD use.

I'll leave it to the bannana heads to figure out.

[benricci]

Honestly, I think I've come to the point where I'm done upgrading. I went from VHS to laserdisc to DVD and now blu-ray. I've realized that I'm happy enough with blu-ray, it looks and sounds amazing and the promise of some new format off in the horizon doesn't appeal to me as it once might have.

On the screen size I have, I just don't think another format is really gonna make that much of a difference in my movie-watching satisfaction. Blu-ray makes the picture and sound as crystal clear as I need them to be, and I really don't feel like replacing my entire movie collection again as I'm now up to quadruple-dip figures on some of my favorites.

Even on much larger sets and projection systems, blu-ray remains crystal clear and blows away every format that came before it. I'm just not 100% convinced that there is THAT much more room for improvement, or even the need for more improvement at the home video level. I mean, we might as well start buying 35mm prints at that point.

Bottom Line: I don't think I'll be able to discern the difference, which is the point where I stop upgrading.

[Yeha-Noha]

I'm all for it as long as it's compatible with my BD collection. By then, I doubt that I'll have any DVDs left to worry about.

I almost voted that the current BD's 1080p resolution is enough. Perhaps for now it is, but by then I would think that HDTV resolution will match the HVD's. If it doesn't, what's the point of upgrading to HVD if there aren't any HDTVs that can display 4K resolution or even support it? Another concern is this. The jump from 720p to 1080p was pretty dramtic and worth the expense. But I am rather concerned right now at least that the increase from 1080p to 4k resolution will not be so dramatic and thus probably not worth it. What I mean is will I need to have a 20 ft wide screen in my house to really be able to see and discern 4K resolution? Heck I might as well buy a Harkins theater.

[Tok]

Originally Posted by rwojtalewicz

I'm all for it as long as it's compatible with my BD collection. By then, I doubt that I'll have any DVDs left to worry about.

I almost voted that the current BD's 1080p resolution is enough. Perhaps for now it is, but by then I would think that HDTV resolution will match the HVD's. If it doesn't, what's the point of upgrading to HVD if there aren't any HDTVs that can display 4K resolution or even support it? Another concern is this. The jump from 720p to 1080p was pretty dramtic and worth the expense. But I am rather concerned right now at least that the increase from 1080p to 4k resolution will not be so dramatic and thus probably not worth it. What I mean is will I need to have a 20 ft wide screen in my house to really be able to see and discern 4K resolution? Heck I might as well buy a Harkins theater.

Unless a viewer is going to have their nose pressed against an average display size of say 40 inches, increase of resolution is going to be negligible. Like you surmised you are going to need to be well above even a typical projector setup to appreciate 4K resolution. 4K is more intended for commercial theater presentation.

Here's an example:
On my 92-in (7.6-ft) screen paired with a 1080p projector, I have a pixel density (pixels per square inch) of 576. Now if I went to a 2160p projector I would have a pixel density of 4x greater, 2304, assuming square pixels. I can't see the pixels until I am within a couple of feet of the screen with the 1080p setup. Now, to get the same pixel density of 576 with a 2160p unit I would have to have a screen 4x larger. That would be a screen of around 15 feet diagonally!!! 1080p is more than enough even for reasonable projector setups.

Factoring in typical screen sizes and viewer visual acuity, the higher resolutions would quickly become irrelevent.

Where I do favor higher resolution though especially in digitals is that it would be much easier to electronically converge 3-chip technologies like LCD and LCOS so they can fully resolve 1080p. Most all three chip projector technologies units have some convergence issues. But even with those it is very hard for the viewer to dicern if it makes a huge visual difference.

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[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by tron3

Would need 4. If I understand it correctly as I quickly went over the material, one laser reads, the other acts as a guide to keep it on track. I believe the read laser for HVD is green so forget combining them into one to support BD and HVD.

The disc is also a different physical size I believe.

But that doesn't matter. It wouldn't be too difficult to design additional support for BD/DVD/CD.

In all honesty though, I don't think consumer grade film releases will go beyond 2K, since isn't that the native resolution for many digital masters? I'd get behind it though; no reason to support a lesser technology when a new one can do it better.

[RiseDarthVader]

I think the resolution should be same but a lot less compression. That way we should be able to get a lot better picture quality. But yeah it should be backwards compatible with Blu-ray. Maybe not DVD or CD. Or else we would have like 5 lasers in the players. (CD Laser, DVD Laser, BD Laser and 2 HVD lasers)

[lch]

i don't think they will use hvd for consumer entertainment system
more likely for data storage purpose, maybe an upgrade for server tape backup.

now even switching to digital broadcast also met with so much resistance, if they want to switch to 4k broadcast, how much more resistance will they get?