Blu-ray vs it's DVD counterpart - Blu-ray Forum

hawks066 · 03-03-2009, 12:54 AM

Is it just me or do alot of Blu-rays not look much better then the DVD counterpart? I'm not saying so much as current releases, but some flicks from the 90's. I just watched Tommy Boy on Blu and really didn't see that great of a difference. The same thing with Event Horizon. Blow seemed good in some scenes and in other's not alot of eye candy. Obivously they are transfers and not actually shot with HD cameras, but I guess I expected more.

Sussudio · 03-03-2009, 12:56 AM

movies can only look as good as the source, including the budget, equipment, and conditions they were shot on. some titles will look lightyears better than the dvds, others not as much, but in every case i've encountered they always end up looking better than the dvd to some degree.

ckent22 · 03-03-2009, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hawks066

Is it just me or do alot of Blu-rays not look much better then the DVD counterpart? I'm not saying so much as current releases, but some flicks from the 90's. I just watched Tommy Boy on Blu and really didn't see that great of a difference. The same thing with Event Horizon. Blow seemed good in some scenes and in other's not alot of eye candy. Obivously they are transfers and not actually shot with HD cameras, but I guess I expected more.

What kind of answer do you think you are gonna get? This is a Blu-ray forum.

RonSwanson · 03-03-2009, 01:02 AM

even the worst blu ray is better than its dvd counterpart. it does depend on your eyes, your tv too.

also, there are plenty of old movies that look sensational

Johnny Vinyl · 03-03-2009, 01:03 AM

Some transfers have been less than impressive and that's a shame, especially when you consider the premium we pay for a Blu-ray copy. Most of them do look and sound better than their DVD versions, but only you can decide if the addional investment for a Blu-ray copy is worth it.

On older movies I always check the AQ/PQ reviews. If it's less than 3.0...I won't consider an upgrade or a purchase. I'll go and buy the DVD copy for $8-$10.

John

vamsilak · 03-03-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hawks066

Is it just me or do alot of Blu-rays not look much better then the DVD counterpart? I'm not saying so much as current releases, but some flicks from the 90's. I just watched Tommy Boy on Blu and really didn't see that great of a difference. The same thing with Event Horizon. Blow seemed good in some scenes and in other's not alot of eye candy. Obivously they are transfers and not actually shot with HD cameras, but I guess I expected more.

sorry to disappoint you my friend
u choose wrong bd's
there are some bluray movies category7 .do u think that movie needs a bluray format?
my point is some good movies can ouput so much
its all depends when di dthey shot the movie and how did they convert the negative .you have to take all the factors into consideration

watch some high budget movies and iam sure u will appreciate it

aheineken · 03-03-2009, 01:08 AM

I only own 3 "older movies" but 2 of them (Top Gun and First Blood) are significant upgrades in both PQ and AQ from the DVD versions. I was rather unimpressed with the PQ of Predator; however, it was still a slight upgrade, but the DTS-HDMA audio track made it worth the double dip.

hawks066 · 03-03-2009, 01:10 AM

Don't get me wrong, all the Blu-ray titles do look better, but I just wanted to see what everyone else thought. I just got the bluray player a month ago, so I'm new to the bluray scene. I actually popped in Tommy Boy DVD and did a small comparison and it did look alot better, haha. I think now that most of my TV watching is HD, I've been spoiled and am forgetting what NON HD is.

Minimejer05 · 03-03-2009, 01:12 AM

Most blu's ive watched look WAY better then there DVD versions. I always can find some sort of difference.

hawks066 · 03-03-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vamsilak

sorry to disappoint you my friend
u choose wrong bd's
there are some bluray movies category7 .do u think that movie needs a bluray format?
my point is some good movies can ouput so much
its all depends when di dthey shot the movie and how did they convert the negative .you have to take all the factors into consideration

watch some high budget movies and iam sure u will appreciate it

Wow, a simple question and it seems I pissed some people off. I am not attacking the Bluray format, I was just really asking a question. I have plenty of BD that look awesome, but was just stating that some of mine didn't look steps above the DVD version.

vamsilak · 03-03-2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by hawks066

Wow, a simple question and it seems I pissed some people off. I am not attacking the Bluray format, I was just really asking a question. I have plenty of BD that look awesome, but was just stating that some of mine didn't look steps above the DVD version.

sorry man

i am not pissed off
these are the facts and factors

proxpilot · 03-03-2009, 01:16 AM

I agree some do some dont look much better.

metsfan1545d · 03-03-2009, 01:16 AM

some look no different but id say the vast majority r clear upgrades

Sussudio · 03-03-2009, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hawks066

Wow, a simple question and it seems I pissed some people off. I am not attacking the Bluray format, I was just really asking a question. I have plenty of BD that look awesome, but was just stating that some of mine didn't look steps above the DVD version.

lol i don't think you pissed anyone off...it is a valid observation that some blurays don't look that much better than the dvds. plus, movies like tommy boy, while they will look good in HD, are not the type of BDs' to "wow" anyone

Beta Man · 03-03-2009, 01:24 AM

sure some aren't great transfers...... but don't let the age of a movie fool you....

check out 2001, bladerunner, patton, Casablanca, and Sleeping Beauty just to name a VERY FEW...... All great transfers, and the first two will give any new movie a run for its money.

Also, the sound quality upgrade is worth the price of admission by itself.

Anthony P · 03-03-2009, 01:34 AM

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Is it just me or do alot of Blu-rays not look much better then the DVD counterpart?

I have not seen the three you mentioned but I have yet to see a BD that is not significantly better then the DVD

Octavio · 03-03-2009, 01:41 AM

How old is a title is not necessarily the main factor to consider when judging the picture quality of certain movies.

i.e. The Adventures of Robin Hood (released in 1938) looks MUCH better than Crash (released in 2004).

Another "oldies" that blows their DVD counterparts out of the water (and many new releases):
Dog Day Afternoon
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
The Shining
The Searchers
Mad Max 2 (aka The Road Warrior in USA)
A Passage to India
etc.

and while criticized for the use of DNR or coz the heavy grain: Amadeus, The Last Emperor and The Godfather Trilogy are IMO a significant upgrade over the previous DVD releases.

In short: I have yet to find a BD that doesn't improve the movie experience when compared to a DVD. and I have already watched Rocky on BD!

brettallica · 03-03-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

sure some aren't great transfers...... but don't let the age of a movie fool you....

check out 2001, bladerunner, patton, Casablanca, and Sleeping Beauty just to name a VERY FEW...... All great transfers, and the first two will give any new movie a run for its money.

Also, the sound quality upgrade is worth the price of admission by itself.

I just purchased 2001 (as well as Superman and Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut) from Amazon and am expecting it any day. I cannot wait to see how this looks in Blu. I haven't been as excited for any of my Blus to arrive as I have for this one, with perhaps the exception of Transformers.

Back to the OP, though, your observations match up with mine -- and I'm sure a lot others', too -- about the PQ not being that much better than the DVD release. At the very least, however, I will say that all old movies I've seen that have been updated to Blu look better to at least some extent. As stated earlier, the difference may or may not be worth the extra cost or double-dip.

vamsilak · 03-03-2009, 01:44 AM

hey guys

bluray

RiseDarthVader · 03-03-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hawks066

Is it just me or do alot of Blu-rays not look much better then the DVD counterpart? I'm not saying so much as current releases, but some flicks from the 90's. I just watched Tommy Boy on Blu and really didn't see that great of a difference. The same thing with Event Horizon. Blow seemed good in some scenes and in other's not alot of eye candy. Obivously they are transfers and not actually shot with HD cameras, but I guess I expected more.

What do you mean by that? Do you mean movies beck then weren't shot in High Definition? Because 35mm has a far higher resolution them most Digital cameras out today apart from the RED 4K and some others.

03-03-2009, 12:54 AM	#1
hawks066 Member Member since:Feb 2009	Blu-ray vs it's DVD counterpart Is it just me or do alot of Blu-rays not look much better then the DVD counterpart? I'm not saying so much as current releases, but some flicks from the 90's. I just watched Tommy Boy on Blu and really didn't see that great of a difference. The same thing with Event Horizon. Blow seemed good in some scenes and in other's not alot of eye candy. Obivously they are transfers and not actually shot with HD cameras, but I guess I expected more.

03-03-2009, 12:56 AM	#2
Sussudio Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:11	movies can only look as good as the source, including the budget, equipment, and conditions they were shot on. some titles will look lightyears better than the dvds, others not as much, but in every case i've encountered they always end up looking better than the dvd to some degree. Last edited by Sussudio; 03-03-2009 at 01:02 AM.

03-03-2009, 01:41 AM	#17
Octavio Contributor Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:2389 DVD collection:3	How old is a title is not necessarily the main factor to consider when judging the picture quality of certain movies. i.e. The Adventures of Robin Hood (released in 1938) looks MUCH better than Crash (released in 2004). Another "oldies" that blows their DVD counterparts out of the water (and many new releases): Dog Day Afternoon Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) The Shining The Searchers Mad Max 2 (aka The Road Warrior in USA) A Passage to India etc. and while criticized for the use of DNR or coz the heavy grain: Amadeus, The Last Emperor and The Godfather Trilogy are IMO a significant upgrade over the previous DVD releases. In short: I have yet to find a BD that doesn't improve the movie experience when compared to a DVD. and I have already watched Rocky on BD! Last edited by Octavio; 03-03-2009 at 01:51 AM.

03-03-2009, 01:44 AM	#19
vamsilak Banned Member since:Feb 2008 Trading Score:1	hey guys bluray Last edited by vamsilak; 03-03-2009 at 01:48 AM.

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hawks066 Member Member since:Feb 2009	Don't get me wrong, all the Blu-ray titles do look better, but I just wanted to see what everyone else thought. I just got the bluray player a month ago, so I'm new to the bluray scene. I actually popped in Tommy Boy DVD and did a small comparison and it did look alot better, haha. I think now that most of my TV watching is HD, I've been spoiled and am forgetting what NON HD is.

03-03-2009, 01:12 AM	#9
Minimejer05 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Minnesota Home Theater Gallery:14 4K collection:532 Blu-ray collection:1995 Blu-ray reviews:28 Trading Score:6	Most blu's ive watched look WAY better then there DVD versions. I always can find some sort of difference.

03-03-2009, 01:16 AM	#12
proxpilot Special Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:High Point, North Carolina Home Theater Gallery:2 Blu-ray collection:108 Trading Score:1	I agree some do some dont look much better.

03-03-2009, 01:16 AM	#13
metsfan1545d Special Member Member since:Sep 2008 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:134 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:14	some look no different but id say the vast majority r clear upgrades

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Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	sure some aren't great transfers...... but don't let the age of a movie fool you.... check out 2001, bladerunner, patton, Casablanca, and Sleeping Beauty just to name a VERY FEW...... All great transfers, and the first two will give any new movie a run for its money. Also, the sound quality upgrade is worth the price of admission by itself.

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