Dynamic Mode: To use or not to use? - Blu-ray Forum

RYJAPE21 · 01-10-2009, 04:47 PM

I have a 50" Pioneer Plasma and I've just recently been flipping through the AV picture settings to see which looked the best (for blu-rays not television). Some looked too gray/dark while others too bright. "Dynamic" seemed to look the best (I think that's what they display at most stores) but I've heard it's not good to keep your TV in this mode as it may wear out the picture/be too intense. Personally I much prefer the image in this mode as opposed to what I had it at before (the image is sharper/brighter but not too much). Is it really bad to keep it in this mode and if so, which would be better for viewing blu-rays?

MoPe · 01-10-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by john_1958

I keep mine in dynamic mode and no its a myth that it harms

contrast 80
brightness 40

after all its what looks great that counts

Mine is similar (74/44), however on my Sony, "movie 1" has slightly better flesh tones than the "standard" mode. Anything above standard is slightly un-natural; but if you like it like that, then keep it there.

Most find "Movie (or 'low' movie, because some have movie 1,2,3), or Standard to be the most common starting point.

MoPe · 01-10-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by john_1958

movie mode sucks because it loses the edge of 1080p at least on samsung

Looses the edge of 1080p?

brett_day · 01-10-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RYJAPE21

I have a 50" Pioneer Plasma and I've just recently been flipping through the AV picture settings to see which looked the best (for blu-rays not television). Some looked too gray/dark while others too bright. "Dynamic" seemed to look the best (I think that's what they display at most stores) but I've heard it's not good to keep your TV in this mode as it may wear out the picture/be too intense. Personally I much prefer the image in this mode as opposed to what I had it at before (the image is sharper/brighter but not too much). Is it really bad to keep it in this mode and if so, which would be better for viewing blu-rays?

vivid and dynamic modes normally add digital noise into the picture. this has been my experiences with both sammy and panny sets. the most accurate color reproductions will always been from the cinema modes that are on most tv's these days, but if it looks good to you then that is all that matters

john_1958 · 01-10-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MoPe

Looses the edge of 1080p?

thats right it lacks the quality of what makes 1080p from looking great

brett_day · 01-10-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by john_1958

thats right it lacks the quality of what makes 1080p from looking great

so you think that because a picture is bright and that the colors burn out your retina's that, thats what 1080p and blu ray's are all about?

big-bleu · 01-10-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brett_day

so you think that because a picture is bright and that the colors burn out your retina's that, thats what 1080p and blu ray's are all about?

you are hilarious

MoPe · 01-10-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by big-bleu

your hilarious

It's true.. I'm not sure if my "sarcasm detector" is working or not today..

brett_day · 01-10-2009, 05:57 PM

well i know there are a lot of people who think that if hdtv's picture are not bright, to where you get blinded by the picture then the picture is not Hi-Def, my in-laws used to be this way until they let me calibrate their set properly.

You know it all goes back to TV's being set on Torch mode in stores so that they pop and stand out and get your attention. Just because the picture is bright enough to replace the sun, it does not mean that you are getting the best quality picture

Kryptron · 01-10-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brett_day

well i know there are a lot of people who think that if hdtv's picture are not bright, to where you get blinded by the picture then the picture is not Hi-Def, my in-laws used to be this way until they let me calibrate their set properly.

You know it all goes back to TV's being set on Torch mode in stores so that they pop and stand out and get your attention. Just because the picture is bright enough to replace the sun, it does not mean that you are getting the best quality picture

+1 Dynamic mode can be usable if you tame the contras and color a bit.
I know a lot of people like to keep the contrast, backlight and colors really high and brightness low and think that that's what gives the picture the "pop". But they don't realize that by having the picture that bright and over saturated you aren't getting true to life colors and contrast. If your contrast is set to high you can miss out on seeing alot of detail.

Example: A person wearing a white shirt with buttons, if the contrast is set to high you only see a glowing white shirt and no buttons

Also dynamic usualy uses a cooler color tempeture then standard and movie/cinema mode. So whites tend to have a blueish tint to them which is not what true white is.

RYJAPE21 · 01-11-2009, 06:33 PM

Alrighty, thanks for the replies everyone.

mr.hidef · 01-12-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by john_1958

I keep mine in dynamic mode and no its a myth that it harms

contrast 80
brightness 40

after all its what looks great that counts

Wrong........My friends Panasonic RPTV......2 years old/burned out......setting VIVID. My co-workers SXRD RPTV....3 years old/burned out......setting VIVID. Whoever told you this is sorely mistaken. Any Professional Calibrator, or anyone who has had a T.V. FAIL or Die will tell you that when they had their T.V.'s repaired, or looked at professionally they were told it was because they aged the "bulbs" or "Processors", or "Optical Blocks" due to high contrast modes such as VIVID. The first thing a Calibrator will do is turn off the VIVID setting. I would hate to see you destroy such a beautiful T.V. like that!.....

JimboTHX1138 · 01-12-2009, 09:04 AM

I wouldn't use dynamic on my plasma for a few reasons.

1. It will look like cr@p. Colors will be way off and people will look like they've got some serious sun burn.

2.Increased risk of burn-in. (Even though it's pretty much a non-issue these days, I wouldn't risk it with the dynamic mode)

3.The plasma won't last as long. You'll wear out the phosphors quicker.

4. Increased power consumption.

Setting it to cinema/movie mode is the way to go IMO.

Hoosier317 · 01-12-2009, 02:35 PM

...this thread is incredible.

Dynamic mode should never, ever be used. You should always be trying to achieve the most accurate and natural picture available. This is almost always done with a movie or film mode.

My_Two_Cents · 01-12-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoosier317

...this thread is incredible.

Dynamic mode should never, ever be used. You should always be trying to achieve the most accurate and natural picture available. This is almost always done with a movie or film mode.

Agreed. Dynamic/Vivid are only there for the stores to use in their brighty lit environments. They add significant noise, and the colors aren't even close to accurate. Cinema/Film is the closest to an accurate picture, if you must choose a mode. You'll get a much better picture by starting with Standard and adjusting the settings using DVE, Avia or such. The best picture will be obtained with a professional ISF calibration.

Squozen · 01-12-2009, 06:38 PM

I would suggest getting a calibration disc such as DVE, and doing your best to calibrate your set. Dynamic mode looks hideous to my eyes, but if that's what you like... hey, I don't have to watch it.

RYJAPE21 · 01-13-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Squozen

I would suggest getting a calibration disc such as DVE, and doing your best to calibrate your set. Dynamic mode looks hideous to my eyes, but if that's what you like... hey, I don't have to watch it.

Thanks for the input, I just ordered the DVE blu-ray disc off Amazon; however, I hear it's kinda confusing for those without tech knowledge (like myself). Is the DVE easy to use?

mr.hidef · 01-13-2009, 02:04 AM

It's very easy to use.......do yourself a favor though, and take the time to START at the beginning and watch ALL of it to really get an understanding of what thy are talking about. That way when you get to the test patterns,you aren't lost....I spent a couple hours watching everything, and learned more than I had known from the last couple of years...After you first get it calibrated.......leave it alone, and watch your T.V. closely for a couple of days and you will start to see things that you had never noticed before......like DETAIL, and true COLORS. It will take a while to get used to the new settings, but you will never watch your T.V. on "VIVID" ever again.

P.S. keep that sharpness setting waaay down also.......you don't want to OVERSCAN your set!

RYJAPE21 · 01-13-2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.hidef

It's very easy to use.......do yourself a favor though, and take the time to START at the beginning and watch ALL of it to really get an understanding of what thy are talking about. That way when you get to the test patterns,you aren't lost....I spent a couple hours watching everything, and learned more than I had known from the last couple of years...After you first get it calibrated.......leave it alone, and watch your T.V. closely for a couple of days and you will start to see things that you had never noticed before......like DETAIL, and true COLORS. It will take a while to get used to the new settings, but you will never watch your T.V. on "VIVID" ever again.

P.S. keep that sharpness setting waaay down also.......you don't want to OVERSCAN your set!

Haha I'll keep that in mind, thanks

Squozen · 01-13-2009, 08:22 AM

I think you're confusing DVE with Avia. DVE is very easy to understand.

Regarding sharpness: Don't assume that the minimum setting is the optimum. That was true in the days of CRTs, but on a lot of LCD/plasma sets the best setting is actually in the middle - going lower makes the image blurrier! This is the case with my projector, for example.

If in doubt, TEST, using the test patterns as explained on the disc.

01-10-2009, 04:47 PM	#1
RYJAPE21 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Maryland 4K collection:247 Blu-ray collection:910 Blu-ray reviews:1	Dynamic Mode: To use or not to use? I have a 50" Pioneer Plasma and I've just recently been flipping through the AV picture settings to see which looked the best (for blu-rays not television). Some looked too gray/dark while others too bright. "Dynamic" seemed to look the best (I think that's what they display at most stores) but I've heard it's not good to keep your TV in this mode as it may wear out the picture/be too intense. Personally I much prefer the image in this mode as opposed to what I had it at before (the image is sharper/brighter but not too much). Is it really bad to keep it in this mode and if so, which would be better for viewing blu-rays?

01-10-2009, 05:57 PM	#9
brett_day Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Moore, Oklahoma Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:45 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	well i know there are a lot of people who think that if hdtv's picture are not bright, to where you get blinded by the picture then the picture is not Hi-Def, my in-laws used to be this way until they let me calibrate their set properly. You know it all goes back to TV's being set on Torch mode in stores so that they pop and stand out and get your attention. Just because the picture is bright enough to replace the sun, it does not mean that you are getting the best quality picture Last edited by brett_day; 01-10-2009 at 06:00 PM.

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01-11-2009, 06:33 PM	#11
RYJAPE21 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Maryland 4K collection:247 Blu-ray collection:910 Blu-ray reviews:1	Alrighty, thanks for the replies everyone.

01-12-2009, 09:04 AM	#13
JimboTHX1138 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Trading Score:1	I wouldn't use dynamic on my plasma for a few reasons. 1. It will look like cr@p. Colors will be way off and people will look like they've got some serious sun burn. 2.Increased risk of burn-in. (Even though it's pretty much a non-issue these days, I wouldn't risk it with the dynamic mode) 3.The plasma won't last as long. You'll wear out the phosphors quicker. 4. Increased power consumption. Setting it to cinema/movie mode is the way to go IMO.

01-12-2009, 02:35 PM	#14
Hoosier317 Banned Member since:Dec 2008	...this thread is incredible. Dynamic mode should never, ever be used. You should always be trying to achieve the most accurate and natural picture available. This is almost always done with a movie or film mode.

01-12-2009, 06:38 PM	#16
Squozen Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:80	I would suggest getting a calibration disc such as DVE, and doing your best to calibrate your set. Dynamic mode looks hideous to my eyes, but if that's what you like... hey, I don't have to watch it.

01-13-2009, 02:04 AM	#18
mr.hidef Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Twin Cities Home Theater Gallery:113 Blu-ray collection:570 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:17	It's very easy to use.......do yourself a favor though, and take the time to START at the beginning and watch ALL of it to really get an understanding of what thy are talking about. That way when you get to the test patterns,you aren't lost....I spent a couple hours watching everything, and learned more than I had known from the last couple of years...After you first get it calibrated.......leave it alone, and watch your T.V. closely for a couple of days and you will start to see things that you had never noticed before......like DETAIL, and true COLORS. It will take a while to get used to the new settings, but you will never watch your T.V. on "VIVID" ever again. P.S. keep that sharpness setting waaay down also.......you don't want to OVERSCAN your set!

01-13-2009, 08:22 AM	#20
Squozen Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:80	I think you're confusing DVE with Avia. DVE is very easy to understand. Regarding sharpness: Don't assume that the minimum setting is the optimum. That was true in the days of CRTs, but on a lot of LCD/plasma sets the best setting is actually in the middle - going lower makes the image blurrier! This is the case with my projector, for example. If in doubt, TEST, using the test patterns as explained on the disc.

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