In your opinion which delivers the best sound - Blu-ray Forum

AcePunK · 02-11-2009, 05:30 PM

DTS-HD Master Audio
PCM
Dolby TrueHD

I mayself like DTS-HD Master Audio over the other decoders and wanted to see what u think. I also preform a search on this but couldn't find 1.

jeff92k7 · 02-11-2009, 06:05 PM

There is no difference at all in sound quality between any of these formats. Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA both use compression schemes allowing for a bit for bit identical track when uncompressed.

That said, I vote PCM. It's already uncompressed so the player or receiver doesn't have to work as hard.

Intamin · 02-11-2009, 06:31 PM

Other: They're all the same.

That gets my vote.

Audiophile_At_Birth · 02-11-2009, 06:34 PM

PCM sounds smoother to me, it gets my vote.

twill812 · 02-11-2009, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcePunK

DTS-HD Master Audio
PCM
Dolby TrueHD

I myself like DTS-HD Master Audio over the other decoders and wanted to see what u think. I also preform a search on this but couldn't find 1.

I agree with DTS-HD. Having watched and listened to BD with both formats Dolby & DTS, DTS seems to have a fuller overall sound coming out my speakers. Just my view.

surfdude12 · 02-11-2009, 06:48 PM

if i looked at my favorite AQ Blu-rays:

Master and Commander - DTSHD
Cloverfield - DolbyHD
Chronicles of Narnia - PCM

they're all of different formats...so this confirms to me that it makes no difference

aramis109 · 02-11-2009, 06:52 PM

Ugh, this again?

It's dependent on the mix, not the format. Lossless= lossless.

AcePunK · 02-11-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

Ugh, this again?

It's dependent on the mix, not the format. Lossless= lossless.

Is it truely, then way isn't it just call lossless audio

cembros · 02-11-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AcePunK

Is it truely, then way isn't it just call lossless audio

it is

Intamin · 02-11-2009, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcePunK

Is it truely, then way isn't it just call lossless audio

It is called lossless audio. The names are just a codec for how the data is compressed.

To the person saying DTS sounds better than DD, it should because of the higher bitrate. However, those aren't lossless formats.

aramis109 · 02-11-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Intamin

It is called lossless audio. The names are just a codec for how the data is compressed.

To the person saying DTS sounds better than DD, it should because of the higher bitrate. However, those aren't lossless formats.

Exactly, DTS is better than DD for just that reason. However, that isn't an issue with lossless audio.

kingofgrills · 02-11-2009, 08:48 PM

Where are the keys to the locks kept? The gate accidentally swung open on this one again.

kefrank · 02-11-2009, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aramis109

Ugh, this again?

It's dependent on the mix, not the format. Lossless= lossless.

+1billion

AcePunK · 03-03-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aramis109

Ugh, this again?

It's dependent on the mix, not the format. Lossless= lossless.

So, lossless=lossless why are movies companies using different format for instance Casino Royale collector changed from PCM to TrueHD

kpkelley · 03-03-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AcePunK

So, lossless=lossless why are movies companies using different format for instance Casino Royale collector changed from PCM to TrueHD

PCM takes up more space than TrueHD or DTS-HD MA. Perhaps they needed the additional space in order to fit some of the new extras on the Collector's Edition release. They were also able to fit a second HD audio track, French TrueHD were as the original release only had the english PCM.

surfdude12 · 03-03-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcePunK

So, lossless=lossless why are movies companies using different format for instance Casino Royale collector changed from PCM to TrueHD

why did GM use the same F-body platform for the Camaro and Firebird??

aramis109 · 03-03-2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcePunK

So, lossless=lossless why are movies companies using different format for instance Casino Royale collector changed from PCM to TrueHD

As mentioned, filesize is one issue. Another is coming into agreements with Dolby (for TrueHD). Just because a group changes doesn't mean they do it because one is "better". Your evidence is flawed.

Rob J in WNY · 03-03-2009, 10:13 PM

Dolby Digital TrueHD + Decoding = Lossless Audio

DTS HD-Master Audio + Decoding = Lossless Audio

Uncompressed PCM + "nothing" = Lossless Audio

Canada · 03-03-2009, 10:33 PM

Oh, not one of these threads again. I belive PCM is the best for sound because it is identical to the theaters, what is up with 16&24 bit PCM uncompressed.

Then Dolby True HD and DTS MA both are tied for second place because they are lossless but not uncompressed.

Big Daddy · 03-03-2009, 10:59 PM

We don't need another thread on this subject. Check some of the past threads. It is time to close this thread.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=64704
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=57828
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=60819

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=67867
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=64343
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=64206

View Poll Results: Which Delivers the Best Sound
PCM	14	36.84%
Dolby TrueHD	5	13.16%
DTS-HD Master Audio	19	50.00%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

02-11-2009, 05:30 PM	#1
AcePunK Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Orlando, Florida Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:585 Digital collection:89 iTunes collection:124 Blu-ray reviews:5	In your opinion which delivers the best sound DTS-HD Master Audio PCM Dolby TrueHD I mayself like DTS-HD Master Audio over the other decoders and wanted to see what u think. I also preform a search on this but couldn't find 1.

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02-11-2009, 06:05 PM	#2
jeff92k7 Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Dallas, Texas Blu-ray collection:13	There is no difference at all in sound quality between any of these formats. Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA both use compression schemes allowing for a bit for bit identical track when uncompressed. That said, I vote PCM. It's already uncompressed so the player or receiver doesn't have to work as hard.

02-11-2009, 06:31 PM	#3
Intamin Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Houston Home Theater Gallery:38 Blu-ray collection:318	Other: They're all the same. That gets my vote.

02-11-2009, 06:34 PM	#4
Audiophile_At_Birth Special Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:El Paso, TX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:235 Blu-ray reviews:1	PCM sounds smoother to me, it gets my vote.

02-11-2009, 06:48 PM	#6
surfdude12 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Club Loop Blu-ray collection:343 Blu-ray reviews:112 Trading Score:1	if i looked at my favorite AQ Blu-rays: Master and Commander - DTSHD Cloverfield - DolbyHD Chronicles of Narnia - PCM they're all of different formats...so this confirms to me that it makes no difference

02-11-2009, 06:52 PM	#7
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	Ugh, this again? It's dependent on the mix, not the format. Lossless= lossless.

02-11-2009, 08:48 PM	#12
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	Where are the keys to the locks kept? The gate accidentally swung open on this one again.

03-03-2009, 10:13 PM	#18
Rob J in WNY Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:'Western' N.Y. State (MEMBER OF THE "ECPP")™ Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:30 Blu-ray collection:486 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15	Dolby Digital TrueHD + Decoding = Lossless Audio DTS HD-Master Audio + Decoding = Lossless Audio Uncompressed PCM + "nothing" = Lossless Audio

03-03-2009, 10:33 PM	#19
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	Oh, not one of these threads again. I belive PCM is the best for sound because it is identical to the theaters, what is up with 16&24 bit PCM uncompressed. Then Dolby True HD and DTS MA both are tied for second place because they are lossless but not uncompressed.

03-03-2009, 10:59 PM	#20
Big Daddy Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Southern California Home Theater Gallery:79 Blu-ray collection:122 Trading Score:1	We don't need another thread on this subject. Check some of the past threads. It is time to close this thread. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=64704 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=57828 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=60819 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=67867 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=64343 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=64206

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