Universal HD??? - Blu-ray Forum

sonyhomenet · 03-31-2009, 11:07 AM

I'm not sure if this is the exact place to post this thread,but it's as close as I could come! Very simply,I'd like to know if the general membership here ever sees a day,when you turn on your TV,and no matter what channel happens to be on,it will be HDTV. I currently recieve in the neighborhood of 40 premium (mostly movie) channels,and out of all of them,only about 6 or 7 are "full time" HD....Seems like a terrible waste to me!! As I'm sure everyone knows,once you see HDTV (let alone Blu ray!) it kind of spoils you for anything less!!
Sonyhomenet

aygie · 03-31-2009, 11:30 AM

5-10 years i reckon.

Fors* · 03-31-2009, 11:49 AM

I think it will come down to whomever you HD provider is (if it's Comcrap, it will never happen in my opinion), and whomever can be the first to get enough bandwith space to do it. That could be a very long time for sure......

paperthrower2000 · 03-31-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonyhomenet

I'm not sure if this is the exact place to post this thread,but it's as close as I could come! Very simply,I'd like to know if the general membership here ever sees a day,when you turn on your TV,and no matter what channel happens to be on,it will be HDTV. I currently recieve in the neighborhood of 40 premium (mostly movie) channels,and out of all of them,only about 6 or 7 are "full time" HD....Seems like a terrible waste to me!! As I'm sure everyone knows,once you see HDTV (let alone Blu ray!) it kind of spoils you for anything less!!
Sonyhomenet

Know how you feel,I would rather watch Wheel Of Fortune in HD than a show like C S I in regular cable,same as watching a regular dvd now.

AppleCrumbDlite · 03-31-2009, 04:51 PM

I think it's going to take a while unfortunately. And they're still going to bone you for years after that because you can't just get hd channels. You have to buy them in sd and pay the hd fee. I hope at least that most of you here don't have cox cable. It's literally the worst cable company... Ever

Branden · 03-31-2009, 04:55 PM

HDTV on all channels all the time? i'd bet on never.
i currently get 20 HD channels, but much of the programming is only SD.

shows like Seinfeld, Cheers, or MASH will be on TV for decades just like I Love Lucy is on now, yet many such shows simply don't have an HD source and thus will always be SD.

AppleCrumbDlite · 03-31-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden

HDTV on all channels all the time? i'd bet on never.
i currently get 20 HD channels, but much of the programming is only SD.

shows like Seinfeld, Cheers, or MASH will be on TV for decades just like I Love Lucy is on now, yet many such shows simply don't have an HD source and thus will always be SD.

I watch Seinfeld and friends on tbs hd every day and it looks really good.

bongzilla · 03-31-2009, 05:11 PM

It will be a while as long as consumers only have a few providers to chose from, for me I,m forced to go with Time Warner crap, unless I want a dish and I have played that dish game before.

TWC is only 720P, and their packages are crap to say the least,
each bundle of the HBO,s and Showtimes, has only 1 full time HD channel,
the rest are SD.

Clark Kent · 03-31-2009, 06:56 PM

We are going to be stuck with standard-definition programming for many years. Too many shows have their native resolution at sd and networks are too cheap to convert all their cameras to being HD-capable.

Red Hood · 03-31-2009, 06:57 PM

I wish I could cancel my sd programming and keep the hd. Everything I watch is in hd already including the 10oclock local news.

BluLobsta · 03-31-2009, 07:52 PM

It's easier for satellite providers to increase capacity for HD channels, since all they have to do is throw another satellite in orbit. DirecTV launched a satellite a few months ago that gave them capacity for 150 HD channels and they are going to launch another satellite in 2009, bringing their capacity to 200 HD channels

Cable providers have a bit of a problem, though. They can only improve their capacity by using existing coax cable, so they have to come up with little tricks like getting rid of analog channels, only sending channels that are being watched or upgrading to higher speed cable as they do maintenance. They can't tear up the whole network at once and disrupt everybody so it is a very slow

process.

So if you have satellite, then I would expect all programming to be in HD alot sooner than cable, that's for sure.

Grumpz · 03-31-2009, 08:10 PM

I have a problem with paying 9 bucks a month for the "HD Plus Package" when of the 30 channels that gets me, TSNHD, HDNET and Discovery HD are the only 3 that are HD 24-7.

Ya, the other channels have some HD programming but maybe 1/4 of the broadcasts!

That's garbage!

P.S. For you Canadian posters...who is CBC trying to kid with that pathetic excuse for HD!?

WyldeMan45 · 03-31-2009, 08:23 PM

Outside of the main channels ABC, NBC and FOX I only watch SpikeTV for more UFC in HD and HDnet for Inside MMA for more mixed martial arts than I can shake a stick at!

Teabaggins · 03-31-2009, 08:33 PM

pretty soon Showtime will also start with Strikeforce, on the 11th I think Diaz vs Shamrock. April is packed with free mma

WyldeMan45 · 03-31-2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teabaggins

pretty soon Showtime will also start with Strikeforce, on the 11th I think Diaz vs Shamrock. April is packed with free mma

I was trying to locate that but didn't see it listed so I thought I wasn't going to get to see Strikeforce, glad I will, thanks for the update! Be nice to see if they have a shot at being any kind of competition for UFC, but that isn't likely.

Red Hood · 03-31-2009, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

Outside of the main channels ABC, NBC and FOX I only watch SpikeTV for more UFC in HD and HDnet for Inside MMA for more mixed martial arts than I can shake a stick at!

I love hdnet, glad they started showing K-1

brettallica · 04-01-2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

It's easier for satellite providers to increase capacity for HD channels, since all they have to do is throw another satellite in orbit. DirecTV launched a satellite a few months ago that gave them capacity for 150 HD channels and they are going to launch another satellite in 2009, bringing their capacity to 200 HD channels

Cable providers have a bit of a problem, though. They can only improve their capacity by using existing coax cable, so they have to come up with little tricks like getting rid of analog channels, only sending channels that are being watched or upgrading to higher speed cable as they do maintenance. They can't tear up the whole network at once and disrupt everybody so it is a very slow

process.

So if you have satellite, then I would expect all programming to be in HD alot sooner than cable, that's for sure.

Agreed. Satellite will always be one step ahead of cable as far as what they can provide when it comes to programming, as the infrastructure of satellite is so much different from that of cable. Physical land line connections will give you better consistency and fewer dropouts as of the technology we have today, but I think in time you will see satellite improve in that area as well.

As far as HD programming goes, almost every channel I watch is broadcast in HD; this is especially true now that Comedy Central joined the mix. Still, though, as others have said: many shows only are only recorded in SD, so while the *channel* might be HD, its programming may not always be. This, too, will change in time, as HD cameras won't always be as expensive as they are now. There's notiing you can do about those old shows, though. They'll be locked in SD forever.

J6P · 04-01-2009, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden

HDTV on all channels all the time? i'd bet on never.
i currently get 20 HD channels, but much of the programming is only SD.

shows like Seinfeld, Cheers, or MASH will be on TV for decades just like I Love Lucy is on now, yet many such shows simply don't have an HD source and thus will always be SD.

It's funny that you chose those particular four shows, as they were all shot on film and would absolutely benefit from an HD transfer, that is if somebody wanted to pony up the cash. Seinfeld is already available in HD in some markets (not mine, sadly) but others pop up all the time. I get Hogan's Heroes in HD now, for example.

Just about everthing will be dragged into the HD age eventually.

Red Hood · 04-01-2009, 02:23 AM

Looks like tbs has started adding a logo runing up and down there black bars on sd stuff. Kind of annoying.

03-31-2009, 11:07 AM	#1
sonyhomenet Member Member since:Jan 2009	Universal HD??? I'm not sure if this is the exact place to post this thread,but it's as close as I could come! Very simply,I'd like to know if the general membership here ever sees a day,when you turn on your TV,and no matter what channel happens to be on,it will be HDTV. I currently recieve in the neighborhood of 40 premium (mostly movie) channels,and out of all of them,only about 6 or 7 are "full time" HD....Seems like a terrible waste to me!! As I'm sure everyone knows,once you see HDTV (let alone Blu ray!) it kind of spoils you for anything less!! Sonyhomenet

03-31-2009, 08:10 PM	#12
Grumpz Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Winnipeg, MB Blu-ray collection:22	I have a problem with paying 9 bucks a month for the "HD Plus Package" when of the 30 channels that gets me, TSNHD, HDNET and Discovery HD are the only 3 that are HD 24-7. Ya, the other channels have some HD programming but maybe 1/4 of the broadcasts! That's garbage! P.S. For you Canadian posters...who is CBC trying to kid with that pathetic excuse for HD!? Last edited by Grumpz; 03-31-2009 at 08:34 PM.

Similar Threads
thread	Forum	Thread Starter	Replies	Last Post
More Universal	Movies	blu4me&U	8	08-28-2008 03:32 AM
Universal PQ BD	Blu-ray Movies - North America	alphadec	28	08-28-2008 02:24 AM
Here Comes Universal...	Blu-ray Movies - North America	Marcusarilius	18	04-17-2008 09:20 AM
What is up with Universal?	Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology	DealsR4theDevil	9	11-28-2007 05:35 PM
Universal Music Group Vs Universal Pictures	Music / Audiophiles	Jim	2	09-01-2006 06:26 PM

03-31-2009, 11:30 AM	#2
aygie Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:PSN Network: Aygie Blu-ray collection:99	5-10 years i reckon.

03-31-2009, 11:49 AM	#3
Fors* Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Pottstown, PA Home Theater Gallery:160 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:11	I think it will come down to whomever you HD provider is (if it's Comcrap, it will never happen in my opinion), and whomever can be the first to get enough bandwith space to do it. That could be a very long time for sure......

03-31-2009, 04:51 PM	#5
AppleCrumbDlite Senior Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Gainesville, FL (Un)Official BD Release poller PSNetwork: Blackhawkin Raptors offed: 26 Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:103 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:7	I think it's going to take a while unfortunately. And they're still going to bone you for years after that because you can't just get hd channels. You have to buy them in sd and pay the hd fee. I hope at least that most of you here don't have cox cable. It's literally the worst cable company... Ever

03-31-2009, 04:55 PM	#6
Branden Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, Alberta 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:558	HDTV on all channels all the time? i'd bet on never. i currently get 20 HD channels, but much of the programming is only SD. shows like Seinfeld, Cheers, or MASH will be on TV for decades just like I Love Lucy is on now, yet many such shows simply don't have an HD source and thus will always be SD.

03-31-2009, 05:11 PM	#8
bongzilla Active Member Member since:Jan 2009	It will be a while as long as consumers only have a few providers to chose from, for me I,m forced to go with Time Warner crap, unless I want a dish and I have played that dish game before. TWC is only 720P, and their packages are crap to say the least, each bundle of the HBO,s and Showtimes, has only 1 full time HD channel, the rest are SD.

03-31-2009, 06:56 PM	#9
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	We are going to be stuck with standard-definition programming for many years. Too many shows have their native resolution at sd and networks are too cheap to convert all their cameras to being HD-capable.

03-31-2009, 06:57 PM	#10
Red Hood Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008 Blu-ray collection:33	I wish I could cancel my sd programming and keep the hd. Everything I watch is in hd already including the 10oclock local news.

03-31-2009, 07:52 PM	#11
BluLobsta Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Rhode Island Home Theater Gallery:86 4K collection:81 Blu-ray collection:420 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:2	It's easier for satellite providers to increase capacity for HD channels, since all they have to do is throw another satellite in orbit. DirecTV launched a satellite a few months ago that gave them capacity for 150 HD channels and they are going to launch another satellite in 2009, bringing their capacity to 200 HD channels Cable providers have a bit of a problem, though. They can only improve their capacity by using existing coax cable, so they have to come up with little tricks like getting rid of analog channels, only sending channels that are being watched or upgrading to higher speed cable as they do maintenance. They can't tear up the whole network at once and disrupt everybody so it is a very slow process. So if you have satellite, then I would expect all programming to be in HD alot sooner than cable, that's for sure.

03-31-2009, 08:23 PM	#13
WyldeMan45 Banned Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Western Washington Blu-ray collection:49 Trading Score:15	Outside of the main channels ABC, NBC and FOX I only watch SpikeTV for more UFC in HD and HDnet for Inside MMA for more mixed martial arts than I can shake a stick at!

03-31-2009, 08:33 PM	#14
Teabaggins Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2008	pretty soon Showtime will also start with Strikeforce, on the 11th I think Diaz vs Shamrock. April is packed with free mma

04-01-2009, 02:23 AM	#19
Red Hood Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008 Blu-ray collection:33	Looks like tbs has started adding a logo runing up and down there black bars on sd stuff. Kind of annoying.

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals