Display distance

[codehorizon]

Here is something that has always interested me. Why is it that when you look at an hdtv upclose, the image appears grainy and lifeless, but when you sit or stand back a few feet, everything becomes clear and sharp?

[space-monkey]

For the same reason that if you put your face right up on a tree, you can't see the forest.

[Beta Man]

^^^ Well said...


I'd add..... for those who say "Blu-rays on my TV at home look so much better than my local theater" you should try blowing up a Blu-ray on a 50' screen, and see what it looks like

[Valkyr47]

the problem im having is movies still appear grainy at times even when im sitting back

i notice on most movies there is either no grain during bright/day scenes or i just cant see it, its mostly during dark scenes but its very irritating

i only have a 46" screen and im sitting about 6-7 feet back, thats enough right?

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by Valkyr47

the problem im having is movies still appear grainy at times even when im sitting back

i notice on most movies there is either no grain during bright/day scenes or i just cant see it, its mostly during dark scenes but its very irritating

i only have a 46" screen and im sitting about 6-7 feet back, thats enough right?

What type of TV do you have?

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Valkyr47

the problem im having is movies still appear grainy at times even when im sitting back

i notice on most movies there is either no grain during bright/day scenes or i just cant see it, its mostly during dark scenes but its very irritating

i only have a 46" screen and im sitting about 6-7 feet back, thats enough right?

That's too far back for me

And.. photographic images are made of grain

[jibucha]

Hello

Interesting to read your post this morning; perhaps this will be of some interest?

Before I make a comment; until HDTV and Blu-ray, I frequented movie theaters for over thirty years, spending as much as two thousand dollars annually on tickets alone, for one person, attending several times weekly during those decades. Additionally, during those decades, I did not watch television hardly at all, less than 5%, during this same time span, perhaps even as low as 1% to 0% for years.

For the past decade, I have exclusively watched Broadcast HDTV daily, for several thousand hours a year annually, no movie theaters, with the exception of visits to the best movie theaters known to me, for comparisons. Of course, I now watch Blu-ray, being the true reference of available picture quality as often as possible, currently owning several hundred movies and tv shows.

This is just for a reference of what I regularly watched, and currently watch.

Additionally, I have been fortunate enough to personally view most of the digital projectors available in movie theaters in North America. Keep in mind that there are very few models in use at this time; ok?

In the past ten years, only one movie digital projection was comparable to what I daily watch at home; and, that was a particular projector, that to my knowledge is not being used publicly anywhere in the United States. And; only one theater that I have been able to find, with an unknown digital projector, seeing the Dark Knight last summer, was even remotely tolerable. To be completely honest, it was good enough that I actually simply watched the movie; a first in a movie theater in my lifetime.

To be fair, perhaps the Kodak Theater in Hollywood, to my knowledge one of the best in the world for picture quality, while I have not had the opportunity to attend it thus far, is to be expected to be quite good; regardless whether it is a digital projection or not, being a film projector. I hope to attend sometime this year to confirm for myself.

My Point l 1 - Picture Quality l That HDTV and Blu-ray specifically, are the quality standard for normal mortals. That Blu-ray content in the home, simply dwarfts the movie theater picture quality; certainly exceptions exist, but they are exceptions, which at their best, are simply comparable.

My Point l 2 - Display Quality l Only displays of the highest quality should be referenced for any comparative judgement. Most are well known to be of very poor quality. Generally, as a basic reference, only the Pioneer Elite Kuro's [Pro-111FD & Pro-141FD] and Panasonic [G10 Series & V10 Series], which will soon be commonly available, are representative of such quality. Yes; a few other of the best displays are representative, but I mention these models as an easy reference.

My Point l 3 - Neutral l While many already conclude otherwise; I am not biased towards either experience. I love movie theaters, and I love HDTV & Blu-ray. I waited an entire lifetime to enjoy television and movies as I do daily at home. Personally, I have no interest in 3-D, whether at home or in movie theaters; and I expect that will include the wonderful Avatar coming this Christmas. But, what should be clear, is that the best in picture quality in either environment, is what I appreciate, and is the only criteria for me.

Well, as I will certainly be blasted for this post, I will leave it at that, and let the fun for many begin.

Thank You

Originally Posted by Beta Man

^^^ Well said...


I'd add..... for those who say "Blu-rays on my TV at home look so much better than my local theater" you should try blowing up a Blu-ray on a 50' screen, and see what it looks like

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by codehorizon

Here is something that has always interested me. Why is it that when you look at an hdtv upclose, the image appears grainy and lifeless, but when you sit or stand back a few feet, everything becomes clear and sharp?

Ever see a billborad on the side of the freeway?
Ever see it up close?

Distance tricks the eyes.

Get real close to your computer monitor... see all those dots?
Sit back now, do you still see all those dots?
They are all still there, distance doesn't allow you to see them.
Now, if you were... 19-20 inches from the display, but those dots were REALLY small, you still wouldn't see them.
Get upclose - 8 or 6 inches away and you will start to see the individual dots(pixels).

[codehorizon]

Okay, everyone's points makes sense. Now I just feel like an idiot

[starkent08]

why is it when my tvs off i can see a picture

[saprano]

I guess you have have burn in

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

^^^ Well said...


I'd add..... for those who say "Blu-rays on my TV at home look so much better than my local theater" you should try blowing up a Blu-ray on a 50' screen, and see what it looks like

Well duh thats why the threater has a higher resolution than bluray. you have fill up all that screen area somehow. that resolution wont benefit us at our sreen sizes.

[starkent08]

i nver burnt my tv

[Rblu-Dblu]

Originally Posted by saprano

Well duh thats why the threater has a higher resolution than bluray. you have fill up all that screen area somehow. that resolution wont benefit us at our sreen sizes.

Better resolution will always benefit me!!!!!!

[bootman]

My sig has a link to a HDTV distance calculator.