What's going on? The gap is narrowing.

[Videophile]

Hi All, I'm a brand new member so be nice.

I noticed the choke hold that BD had on HD-DVD, which was at almost a 9 to 1 ration has now depleted to slightly less than 2 to 1.

It's no that HD-DVD is doing that much better than it did the last couple month, but BD's number are slipping back fast.

Anone know why this is?

I'm surprised, I though BD was going to run away with this one but it doesn't look so great anymore.

[crunchy]

sorry but what are you basing this conclusion on?

Nielsen Videoscan numbers, the only numbers that measure actually units sold across the entire market, show that Blu-ray is continuing to widen its lead in the last week.

I almost wonder if you are an HD-DVD troll from another forum wanting to spread misinformation here.

you can see the numbers here as Blu-ray continues to increase its market share over HD-DUD.

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/hom031807/

[thebluemax]

Yeah, I suspect an HD-DUD troll, & a dumb one at that.

[Damon Payne]

The trend is still generally upwards, but massive sales of course depend on blockbuster hits.

[Videophile]

I am asking a honest question and as a BD owner, I was merely trying to figure out why there was such a huge gap a couple of weeks ago and now the movie sales (according to Amazon) have changed so dramatically.

Your replies are so paranoid, I cant figure out why you people are so scared of lending your insight as to why. I am an early adopter of BD disc and I love my player. I thought about posiibly buying an HD-DVD player as well but with only one exclusive studio, I dont see the point.

Is this the type of reply I can expect to any question?

[samsung hd]

Originally Posted by Videophile

I am asking a honest question and as a BD owner, I was merely trying to figure out why there was such a huge gap a couple of weeks ago and now the movie sales (according to Amazon) have changed so dramatically.

Your replies are so paranoid, I cant figure out why you people are so scared of lending your insight as to why. I am an early adopter of BD disc and I love my player. I thought about posiibly buying an HD-DVD player as well but with only one exclusive studio, I dont see the point.

Is this the type of reply I can expect to any question?

what are you based on ??? where's your chart
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[Blu4ever]

Videophile simply read the article wrong. I am guessing they are referring to the article linked at high def digest. The 9:1 ratio is referring to Casino Royale outselling The Departed, not Blu Ray vs. HD-DVD overall.

[theknub]

Originally Posted by Videophile

Hi All, I'm a brand new member so be nice.

no problem

I noticed the choke hold that BD had on HD-DVD, which was at almost a 9 to 1 ration has now depleted to slightly less than 2 to 1.

what choke hold do you speak of? i have been here for a long time and seen no numbers that are 9:1. 2:1 is the most common and even that gap is enlarging very quickly. od you have or know of anything that confirm those sale numbers?

It's no that HD-DVD is doing that much better than it did the last couple month, but BD's number are slipping back fast.

Anone know why this is?

again, where do you get these numbers?

I'm surprised, I though BD was going to run away with this one but it doesn't look so great anymore.

they're working on it, but in a war, you have to set the troops up appropriately.

[Videophile]

I am referring to the sales numbers at Amazon.com. They are one of the largest DVD / BD / HD-DVD retailers on the planet.

There was a sales gap of almost 9 to 1 in every category, top 100, top 1000, top 10000. Now it's barely double. I dont want you to sit here and tell me that those numbers don't mean anything. I have been reading posts in here for a long time trying to figure out if this a forum where people would actually discuss BD movies.

Like I said before, I bought a BD player when the first movies rolled out. I have been following the two formats from when they were initially unveiled.

I think this forum is only filled with people who want to hear how great Blu-Ray is, reinforcing thier choice of format. I really expected more from people who are supposedly movie fans.

All you want to discuss is how BD is crushing HD-DVD and calling it childish names like HD-DUD. What is wrong with you? I think HD-DVD is a decent format with no support. I for one think BD will easily win out of the two competing formats, especially if Universal jumps on board. This is the precise reason why I waited for BD.

Was there something that caused the huge jump in BD sales (other than the PS3) from January to March? The PS3 was released in November and the movie sales really didnt take off until after the first of the year. I have been watching the BD movie sales skyrocket for 2 to 3 months now, all of the sudden, they have leveled off and are slowing down.

The point I was trying to make before all you paranoid people thought an HD-DVD fanboy had infiltrated this forum was what happened to stop the seemingly exponential gap in sales to change so dramatically?

Did I miss something? Can anyone give an honest opinion or answer and not a demand to see charts with name calling?

[nhaase]

Yea, some people are a bit paranoid, but like "theknub" said, post a link of the story you're reading so we can see what you see.

Also, if you're looking at a week-to-week basis, it is of course very dependent on new releases. On the 13th BD had Casino Royale, while this Tuesday, the 27th, HD-DVD is finally having some releases. This will be the first March releases for HD-DVD, so many of the numbers you've seen for this month were for BD competing w/ no new HD-DVDs. Since now they've got some again, the margin will stop growing like it has. Looking at week-to-week numbers must be taken w/ a grain of salt; make sure to look and compare which titles are coming out each week for each format, which will usually explain the ratio.

[theknub]

Originally Posted by Videophile

I am referring to the sales numbers at Amazon.com. They are one of the largest DVD / BD / HD-DVD retailers on the planet.

http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/

these are numbers comparing the war. as far as i can tell, there is no 9:1 number on there

There was a sales gap of almost 9 to 1 in every category, top 100, top 1000, top 10000. Now it's barely double.

for best comparisons please look at titles that are on both formats. happy feet is just about equal and the departed is a significant difference. given numbers, a 7:1 difference? not quite, but funny to think

I dont want you to sit here and tell me that those numbers don't mean anything. I have been reading posts in here for a long time trying to figure out if this a forum where people would actually discuss BD movies.

which numbers? you have just said "amazon numbers" when what i have linked is amazon numbers from a very pro hd-dvd site

Like I said before, I bought a BD player when the first movies rolled out. I have been following the two formats from when they were initially unveiled.

im getting a feeling of obvious trolling, but which player do you own? firmware? connection? supporting equipment? etc

I think this forum is only filled with people who want to hear how great Blu-Ray is, reinforcing thier choice of format. I really expected more from people who are supposedly movie fans.

my choice of format is BR. i am a great movie fan. why are more studios aND ce companies backing one format than another?

All you want to discuss is how BD is crushing HD-DVD and calling it childish names like HD-DUD.

are they not?

What is wrong with you?

nothing, according to my last blood test

I think HD-DVD is a decent format with no support. I for one think BD will easily win out of the two competing formats, especially if Universal jumps on board. This is the precise reason why I waited for BD.

exactly, a decent format. will it last? i don't see the future expandability

Was there something that caused the huge jump in BD sales (other than the PS3) from January to March? The PS3 was released in November and the movie sales really didnt take off until after the first of the year. I have been watching the BD movie sales skyrocket for 2 to 3 months now, all of the sudden, they have leveled off and are slowing down.

maybe christmas, then people opening presents and buying movies? remember, we're in a tough time of the year and people are simply trying to pay taxes. we can't have an overnight victory, but we're working on it.

The point I was trying to make before all you paranoid people thought an HD-DVD fanboy had infiltrated this forum was what happened to stop the seemingly exponential gap in sales to change so dramatically?

Did I miss something? Can anyone give an honest opinion or answer and not a demand to see charts with name calling?

as far as i know, no gap has been narrowed. all sales this month continue to point to 2:1 rather than this 9:1 number. im not asking for charts, but something that point to the numbers you claim

[The Don]

BD was releasing a few movies that people wanted and HD-DVD let them have their spotlight so they can take their turn (now)...

we'll see how this turns out and if they can muster the numbers that BD did during the Amazon sale and the release of Casino Royale....

I can't recall what is coming out in april.....but May looks VERY NICE for BD....

PotC 1 and 2 I think and Apocalypto......not to mention a few others...

edit: also..if the number was really 9:1...how long do you think they'd keep that up?....even a 5:1 ratio is ridiculous and that's nearly half the given number...

[Deciazulado]

I just want to mention, that, really, it's not polite to accuse a new member instantaneously of trolling. Remember that out there, there are "elements" constantly telling normal folk that HD DVD will have 2.7 million players for next Christmas and that there were 300 HD DVD titles available for LAST Christmas, etc. So people might come in "sun-burned" brick red from the outside weather. Just apply blue noxema soothing cream.
For trolls the best thing to do is to ignore the troll and let them ripen on their own or report them. Don't feed a troll so they die of starvation.

In any case the BD vs HD DVD numbers will keep giving the advantage to one format, the sales will just have normal motion peaks and valleys. This week (at this point) DVDEmpire is showing 72% vs 28% sales (a 2.5:1 ratio). BD has already sold much more copies in 9 months than HD DVD in 11 months. As long as it keeps selling 2x steady, by exponentially increasing High Definition sales, the lead in units sold will keep increasing too.

[ZX-VETTE]

I have a PS3 so obviously am in the BD camp. But, I don't understand why there's such a "mine is better than yours" mentality. Of course we all want our technology to come out on top because it ensures that the medium will continue and we wouldn't have purchased an unsupported product or discontinued medium. But that's not the case so who cares about burying HD-DVD. If anything, competition is good. If it weren't for some of the HD-DVD movies looking better than their BD counterparts, we may still be seeing some lousy BD transfers out there. I'd rather have HD-DVD hang around and keep BD honest.

[goodstuff]

I'd rather not have HD-DVD around if it means I can't get some movies from them (in this case Universal). I don't want to buy extra equipment just to get movies from one studio.

[ZX-VETTE]

Originally Posted by goodstuff

I'd rather not have HD-DVD around if it means I can't get some movies from them (in this case Universal). I don't want to buy extra equipment just to get movies from one studio.

Many people in this forum have provided snippets of information suggesting Universal will drop its exclusivity with HD-DVD. They'll eventually go where the money is. It's just a matter of time.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Videophile

Hi All, I'm a brand new member so be nice.

I noticed the choke hold that BD had on HD-DVD, which was at almost a 9 to 1 ration has now depleted to slightly less than 2 to 1.

It's no that HD-DVD is doing that much better than it did the last couple month, but BD's number are slipping back fast.

Anone know why this is?

I'm surprised, I though BD was going to run away with this one but it doesn't look so great anymore.

Bizarro World just called. They said to come on back home now.

[NuSoardGraphite]

Ummm...wasn't there a huge sale on BD's over at Amazon?

That would be why the numbers of BD vs HD-DVD were so high a couple of weeks back, but now they have tapered off.

I'm surprised you guys didn't jump on that.

So to the topic creator...thats why. There was a huge Amazon sale on BD's, now there isn't. Thats why the Amazon numbers reflect that.

But of course, Amazon is simply 1 online retailer. You have to look at other numbers as well to get the full picture. Don't forget that.

[powerSURG]

You ask, why all the animosity? I say, because for a long time HD-DUDers pointed and laughed. Sony haters cursed BD and it's supporters and claimed BD would fail. Never giving thought to the benefits of the format itself. Now, the color blue shines and we taste victory.

Every day I anxiously log on to bluray.com in hopes of reading the inevitable future of HD. "bd has won," or "universal goes blu..." This is a place for people who knew all along. That is why we are here.

[ZX-VETTE]

Originally Posted by powerSURG

You ask, why all the animosity? I say, because for a long time HD-DUDers pointed and laughed. Sony haters cursed BD and it's supporters and claimed BD would fail. Never giving thought to the benefits of the format itself. Now, the color blue shines and we taste victory.

Every day I anxiously log on to bluray.com in hopes of reading the inevitable future of HD. "bd has won," or "universal goes blu..." This is a place for people who knew all along. That is why we are here.

Do you really care what HD-DVDers think? It's the same with xBox360 vs PS3 debate. I couldn't care less about what these people say. I have a PS3 (and therefore BD) for my own specific reasons. If someone wants to go on all day about how great the xBox360 is, let 'em. Same for HD-DVD. It doesn't mean anything to me. But like I said, competition leads to better products so I'm all for it.