"Ultra HD Signal; 16 Times Better Than HDTV"

[JTK]

http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=7466

Super Hi-Vision makes 1080p HDTV appear as clear as a Vaseline smear.

[BLu-Balls]

Holy Buck!!!!

[Coltboy]

Price tag to consumers $5,000,000

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Coltboy

Price tag to consumers $5,000,000

When or if it ever actually hits the streets.

[Zaphod]

"A single minute of Super Hi-Vision footage would require 194 GB of storage."

Hello! Can you imagine the media that this would need to store an entire movie?

"To help ease that burden, NHK is enlisting the help of ATEME, a provider of MPEG-4 and H.264 solutions, to compress the 7680 x 4320 "Ultra HD" video – creating a new video standard."

Can you imagine the amount of compression needed to make this even manageable for a storage medium?

[Josh]

1080p is going to be the standard for a long while. Technology needs to make huge leeps and bounds for something like this to be consumer ready, and its taken many years for 1080p to get to that point.

[Footloose301]

Says it won't hit consumers until 2020.... nice to know that the $4k I spent on my current TV isn't going into the garbage anytime soon.

[john_1958]

Originally Posted by Footloose301

Says it won't hit consumers until 2020.... nice to know that the $4k I spent on my current TV isn't going into the garbage anytime soon.

NHK's Ultra HD technology delivers 7680 x 4320 resolution, which is up to 16 times greater than HDTV. The super-fast prototype cameras can capture data at a rate of 4000fps, with an audio component that is 22.2 channels (as compared to today’s 5.1 surround sound).

I say why wait till 2020 ?
2010 would be better or 2009

[Filterlab]

Jeez, that's incredible specification. What I'm wondering is what sort of data bit rate would that kind of information require? Furthermore, at the moment it could only rationally be direct to (on recording) and direct from (on playack) a dedicated hard disk recorder.

Not yet, but certainly in the future it may become a possibility. Remember that only 10 years ago a 50meg hard drive was considered a very high spec. Now that kind of storage can be found in a digital watch.

In other words whilst it would be very expensive now, in ten years it could be the standard to replace the current HD technology.

I'll start saving now.

[Merrick]

Originally Posted by Zaphod

"A single minute of Super Hi-Vision footage would require 194 GB of storage."

Hello! Can you imagine the media that this would need to store an entire movie?

"To help ease that burden, NHK is enlisting the help of ATEME, a provider of MPEG-4 and H.264 solutions, to compress the 7680 x 4320 "Ultra HD" video – creating a new video standard."

Can you imagine the amount of compression needed to make this even manageable for a storage medium?

Holographic Versatile Discs currently hold 3.9 TB - which according to the above stats equals 20 minutes of uncompressed Ultra HD. Even at 22.2, the UberHD Sound is going to be an insignificant increase in storage required.
With only a 2:1 compression that's 40 minutes already. Also, I suspect that with the very high pixel count (i.e., smaller changes in shading/color between two adjacent pixels) the compression algorithms are going to be even more efficient. Now, bandwidth is going to be another story. For three colors that's going to be pretty hefty - but certainly not a huge worry compared to making 8000X4000 pixels affordable! That has to be at least 16x what a 2000x1000 panel costs now in the best case scenario, but it's going to be a lot more, of course.
And forget cable/sat broadcasts for the forseeable future.

[jermwhl]

Originally Posted by Filterlab

Jeez, that's incredible specification. What I'm wondering is what sort of data bit rate would that kind of information require?

it may be quite some time before such an image is delivered on media, let alone broadcasted, as an uncompressed signal requires a bit-rate of 24Gbps

quite a bit!!!!

[Merrick]

Originally Posted by Filterlab

Remember that only 10 years ago a 50meg hard drive was considered a very high spec. Now that kind of storage can be found in a digital watch.

Not quite. I had a 200MB hard drive in the late 80's - 20 years ago.
But the HVD is coming...

[jermwhl]

Originally Posted by Merrick

Not quite. I had a 200MB hard drive in the late 80's - 20 years ago.
But the HVD is coming...

I can remember saying "Holy crap! A 500MB hard drive? Who will ever fill that up!"

I laugh all the time about that

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by jermwhl

I can remember saying "Holy crap! A 500MB hard drive? Who will ever fill that up!"

I laugh all the time about that

Yay! A 500mb hard drive! Now I can finally store all my text documents.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by JTK

http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=7466

Hey, SuperHD cinema projection would probably get me back into the theater for a while.

Gary

[boweyang]

Originally Posted by Zaphod

"A single minute of Super Hi-Vision footage would require 194 GB of storage."

Hello! Can you imagine the media that this would need to store an entire movie?

"To help ease that burden, NHK is enlisting the help of ATEME, a provider of MPEG-4 and H.264 solutions, to compress the 7680 x 4320 "Ultra HD" video – creating a new video standard."

Can you imagine the amount of compression needed to make this even manageable for a storage medium?

7680 x 4320 = 33177600

So isnt that like 33 megapixels or something for one still frame?

[Digital Filmmaker]

I have seen this format demonstrated first-hand twice over the past two years.

It is absolutely breathtaking. It is to 1080 HD what IMAX is to Super 16mm film.

When you are watching it, you are not really consciously aware that you are looking at a projected image, but rather that you are looking through a large bay window at a live scene. It is that good.

The camera itself is quite large, but the outboard processors and gear is quite monstrous and certainly not in any way portable. I can imagine that over the next several years that the situation will change in the same way that HD cameras have shrunk from a large and quite heavy box to some models the size of a palmcorder in recent years.

[stockstar1138]

i read some where, can't find the source, that the human eye only sees 4000p from a standard viewing distance on a 50" screen, which would mean that normal viewers would not even be seeing full quality of this due to the fact that they naturally cannot process an image this clear with what God gave them.

[jubaiweaponx]

all I can say is yikes ,and its a long way off

[Helicon]

Originally Posted by boweyang

7680 x 4320 = 33177600

So isnt that like 33 megapixels or something for one still frame?

That's insane.... 1080P is actually enough for most unless they have really big screens.