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Old 06-17-2007, 01:11 AM   #1
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Sony 1080p tv's new line.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468280.html

I am interested in a LCD 1080p tv from Sony.

I will either buy the Sony KDL-40W3000 or the Sony KDL-40XBR4.

The only difference in these two models is, that it has 120 hz refresh rate (Sony calls this motionflow). How important is this 120hz refresh rate, if you allready have 24p option?

(I think there is also another difference in these models, that the article doesnt mention, XBR4 uses 'Bravia engine pro' and 40W3000 uses 'Bravia engine EX')

I cant buy these models, I just have to wait, till the equavilent of these models launch in Europe.
And in Europe, motionflow on Sony tv's is not 120 Hz, but it is 100Hz instead, Sony calls it: Motionflow 100Hz +, Now I dont know why they put the plus behind 100hz, maybe it swithes between 100hz (for 50fps) and 120hz (for 60fps content).

So basicly my question is, is the motionflow feature worth it?

Edit: It is important to me, that there is no, or minimal judder. Because judder makes my head hurt.

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Old 06-17-2007, 01:25 AM   #2
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The 120hz refresh rate means that the tv can not only accept a 1080p/24 signal, it will actually display it at 24fps. The reason that 120hz is the magic number is because a 120hz set can natively display frame rates of 24, 30 and 60 since 120 is divisible by all those numbers. 120 isn't divisible by 60 and that's why the telecine 3:2 pulldown process is done to make 24fps material play at normal speed on a 60hz set.

A 60hz HDTV may accept a 24fps signal but it will do the 3:2 pulldown process in real time so that you still see a 30fps signal.

Bottom line, if you want to watch your BDs in true 24FPS, get the 120hz set. This is how you will get rid of the judder.
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Old 06-17-2007, 02:31 AM   #3
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I think I saw on their blurb also something about interpolating motion to 120 but I'd have to look at it again.
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i have the XBR3 and i love it! so i would def go with the xbr5 but if you dont mine not having black go with the xbr4
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Old 06-17-2007, 03:44 AM   #5
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THAT TV WOULD BE THE HOTNESS ,ALAS i HAVE MY HEART LEANING TOWARD THE NEW EPSON PROJECTOR ,HMMM CHOICES ,CHOICES
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Quote:
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THAT TV WOULD BE THE HOTNESS ,ALAS i HAVE MY HEART LEANING TOWARD THE NEW EPSON PROJECTOR ,HMMM CHOICES ,CHOICES
hehe i guess its a good thing we have choices then huh
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Old 06-17-2007, 08:59 PM   #7
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120Hz makes a difference.
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