How do DVDs look when played on Blu-ray? - Blu-ray Forum

CyberGhostface · 09-10-2009, 06:48 PM

I already know Blu-rays upscale DVDs to 1080p, and that the transfer isn't as good as Blu-ray disc itself.

I was just wondering if there was a site that had examples of how a DVD looked upscaled on Blu-ray versus the Blu-ray itself, or if there was a way I could upconvert my DVD on my computer to get a sampling of how it would look.

syncguy · 09-11-2009, 12:47 AM

DVD upconversion is attempting create new data points, i.e. mapping 720x480 dvd res to 1920x1080 blu-ray HD res. Blu-ray is natively 1920x1080, i.e. it has all needed data points directly scanned from the film - no need to create new points like the dvd. So, the difference could be like day and night. DVD cannot even get close to a good quality blu-ray.

If you have a blu-ray player on your PC you can compare DVD and blu-ray easily. The PC will automatically upconvert DVD when full screen mode is used. For a good comparison you should have 1920x1080 monitor.

Beta Man · 09-11-2009, 01:03 AM

I may be in the minority here (pretty sure I am) But I prefer to play my Standard DVDs on a dedicated DVD player. I'm not a big fan of the looks of upconverted DVDs.

assydingo · 09-11-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

I may be in the minority here (pretty sure I am) But I prefer to play my Standard DVDs on a dedicated DVD player. I'm not a big fan of the looks of upconverted DVDs.

I do that sometimes. DVD tries so hard to be HD otherwise and it just annoys me because it's not HD.

syncguy · 09-11-2009, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

I may be in the minority here (pretty sure I am) But I prefer to play my Standard DVDs on a dedicated DVD player. I'm not a big fan of the looks of upconverted DVDs.

Unless upconverted you cannot display your DVD on a 1080p display and fill the entire display. Upconversion may be done in the player or in the TV set.

Beta Man · 09-11-2009, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by syncguy

Unless upconverted you cannot display your DVD on a 1080p display and fill the entire display. Upconversion may be done in the player or in the TV set.

I don't think (don't take that as gospel) that my projector up-converts..... and I'm not interested in "filling the screen"

syncguy · 09-11-2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

I don't think (don't take that as gospel) that my projector up-converts..... and I'm not interested in "filling the screen"

Okay, that means you watch DVDs window boxed (on a 1080p display)without any upscaling - you are really in the minority.

Batman1980 · 09-11-2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by assydingo

I do that sometimes. DVD tries so hard to be HD otherwise and it just annoys me because it's not HD.

DVD doesn't try to do anything, the upscaler overfills colors and makes it look worse IMO.

ninel · 09-11-2009, 09:35 AM

Some DVDs are looking great on Sony KDL-46X2000 when played on BDP-S500 or BDP-S550 (take for instance the Madagascar II or Jumper or KungFu Panda), you realy have the impression is a bluray disc. But the most, are even worse than when they are played with high-end DVD player.

I might be wrong, but I assume the upconversion is being made by the TV itself.

Just my thought

syncguy · 09-11-2009, 11:09 AM

In some combinations, TV upscaling/deinterlacing could be better than DVD player upscaling/deinterlacing. Need to test this for each combination. Also, one should be close enough to appreciate the difference between blu-ray and upscaled DVD. Ideally about 2 to 2.5 screen heights.

Uniquely · 09-11-2009, 10:26 PM

I think upscaled DVD looks fine. IMO it resembles the compressed quality of HD you get from satellite or cable service. What I miss when watching DVD's is the lossless audio.

Blu-Curry · 09-12-2009, 12:45 AM

It depends on what the movie is. Some are amazing (LOTR, King Kong) while others are horrible (War of the World remake).

drtre81 · 09-12-2009, 04:12 AM

Depends the disk.

Suntory_Times · 09-12-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

I don't think (don't take that as gospel) that my projector up-converts..... and I'm not interested in "filling the screen"

unless when you watch dvds you have black bars above and to the sides of your image you are upscaling, im gussing your projector simply does a 'better' job of it.

syncguy · 09-12-2009, 05:44 PM

I really cannot fully enjoy DVDs since I have seen my first blu-ray. I can tolerate upscaled DVDs and watch it but cannot fully enjoy it.

U4K61 · 09-22-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberGhostface

I already know Blu-rays upscale DVDs to 1080p, and that the transfer isn't as good as Blu-ray disc itself.

I was just wondering if there was a site that had examples of how a DVD looked upscaled on Blu-ray versus the Blu-ray itself, or if there was a way I could upconvert my DVD on my computer to get a sampling of how it would look.

In the The Upscale Crisis, there is a link showing the 300 Blu-ray vs the one on DVD. And I say, what happened to the snow?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

I may be in the minority here (pretty sure I am) But I prefer to play my Standard DVDs on a dedicated DVD player. I'm not a big fan of the looks of upconverted DVDs.

+1
1080p DVD upconversion can get you into trouble with a 720p set that can handshake with a 1080p signal.

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Originally Posted by syncguy

I really cannot fully enjoy DVDs since I have seen my first blu-ray. I can tolerate upscaled DVDs and watch it but cannot fully enjoy it.

I just sit further back.

09-10-2009, 06:48 PM	#1
CyberGhostface Active Member Top contributor Member since:May 2009 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:236 DVD collection:34 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:1	How do DVDs look when played on Blu-ray? I already know Blu-rays upscale DVDs to 1080p, and that the transfer isn't as good as Blu-ray disc itself. I was just wondering if there was a site that had examples of how a DVD looked upscaled on Blu-ray versus the Blu-ray itself, or if there was a way I could upconvert my DVD on my computer to get a sampling of how it would look.

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09-11-2009, 12:47 AM	#2
syncguy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008	DVD upconversion is attempting create new data points, i.e. mapping 720x480 dvd res to 1920x1080 blu-ray HD res. Blu-ray is natively 1920x1080, i.e. it has all needed data points directly scanned from the film - no need to create new points like the dvd. So, the difference could be like day and night. DVD cannot even get close to a good quality blu-ray. If you have a blu-ray player on your PC you can compare DVD and blu-ray easily. The PC will automatically upconvert DVD when full screen mode is used. For a good comparison you should have 1920x1080 monitor.

09-11-2009, 01:03 AM	#3
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	I may be in the minority here (pretty sure I am) But I prefer to play my Standard DVDs on a dedicated DVD player. I'm not a big fan of the looks of upconverted DVDs.

09-11-2009, 09:35 AM	#9
ninel Member Member since:Dec 2006	Some DVDs are looking great on Sony KDL-46X2000 when played on BDP-S500 or BDP-S550 (take for instance the Madagascar II or Jumper or KungFu Panda), you realy have the impression is a bluray disc. But the most, are even worse than when they are played with high-end DVD player. I might be wrong, but I assume the upconversion is being made by the TV itself. Just my thought

09-11-2009, 11:09 AM	#10
syncguy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008	In some combinations, TV upscaling/deinterlacing could be better than DVD player upscaling/deinterlacing. Need to test this for each combination. Also, one should be close enough to appreciate the difference between blu-ray and upscaled DVD. Ideally about 2 to 2.5 screen heights.

09-11-2009, 10:26 PM	#11
Uniquely Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Mobile, AL Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:171	I think upscaled DVD looks fine. IMO it resembles the compressed quality of HD you get from satellite or cable service. What I miss when watching DVD's is the lossless audio.

09-12-2009, 12:45 AM	#12
Blu-Curry Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Canada 4K collection:115 Blu-ray collection:409 Digital collection:72 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:5	It depends on what the movie is. Some are amazing (LOTR, King Kong) while others are horrible (War of the World remake).

09-12-2009, 04:12 AM	#13
drtre81 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:110	Depends the disk.

09-12-2009, 05:44 PM	#15
syncguy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008	I really cannot fully enjoy DVDs since I have seen my first blu-ray. I can tolerate upscaled DVDs and watch it but cannot fully enjoy it.

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