65"s1 or 58"v10!!! - Blu-ray Forum

JAS · 11-20-2009, 06:20 PM

Alright, I cant decide between the TC-P65S1 Panny or the TC-P58V10.
Im going for quality(BLU RAY AND GAMING) and SIZE!! The S1 is on sale for $2,599.99 and the V10 is $2,699.98 on BB Online. I like the S1 cause of the size and the V10 cause of the PQ.
Does the S1 have the same PQ as the V10?
What is the difference between the two?
I think the smallest Ill go is 58". I have a 65" right now so thats what Im used to, but I dont think 7 inches is all that much of a difference.
So please, any and all opinions welcome.
THANKS TO ALL!!

qwknuf6 · 11-20-2009, 07:23 PM

How far away from the screen will you be ? I would go for size unless you sit 5-6 feet away , I would guess 65" would be 30 to 35 % larger screen area than a 58" , think about it .

JAS · 11-20-2009, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwknuf6

How far away from the screen will you be ? I would go for size unless you sit 5-6 feet away , I would guess 65" would be 30 to 35 % larger screen area than a 58" , think about it .

I sit bout 10' from my tv.

HiDefRev · 11-20-2009, 08:08 PM

Go with the V10. It has a better panel, as well as 96 Hz capability.

Grand Bob · 11-20-2009, 08:41 PM

Why not get the 65" V10? Have the best of both size and quality.

kpkelley · 11-20-2009, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAS

I sit bout 10' from my tv.

the v10 is a significantly better tv, but I'd be hard pressed to recommend a tv under 60" for how far you are from your sitting area. If you can swing a larger v10 I would highly suggest that.

JAS · 11-20-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Why not get the 65" V10? Have the best of both size and quality.

Man that sounds nice!! As of right now, I have $3400 just for a new tv.
I think the 65V10 is round 4,000 at BB right?
More or less, how much would I need if I decided to get the 65V10 with like a 4 year warranty with Best Buy. OUT THE DOOR. TOTAL!

JAS · 11-20-2009, 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=kpkelley;2563436]the v10 is a significantly better tv, but I'd be hard pressed to recommend a tv under 60" for how far you are from your sitting area. If you can swing a larger v10 I would highly suggest that.[/QUOTEJ

Just measured!!
When I mount the Panny, It will actually be 14ft away.
DAMMN!! I didnt think it would be that far!!
Sooo u think a 58" is out of the question?

b00st · 11-20-2009, 09:19 PM

V10 over S1. its not about quantity...its about quality.

b00st · 11-20-2009, 09:21 PM

i sit 12 to 14 feet away and its not an issue. i just wish i did the 58" instead of the 54". money wasn't the object. they said my wall would be all TV...so aesthetically i went smaller. now i wish i bought the 58"

SpauldingSmails · 11-22-2009, 07:46 AM

what about a 58s vs a 54g? i cant post a new thread, sorry to hijack...same basic question difference price point... gl to op with their ginormous tv purchase

b00st · 11-23-2009, 07:48 PM

more config on the V10 vs the G10. THX mode...plus the 96hz feature works properly only on the V10 as far as i know. or maybe they don't have that feature on the G10. i know one of the other models that had it had FLICKER when turned on. its good for those 24p movies.

i liked the further control and 96hz...its worth it to me.

JAS · 11-23-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b00st

more config on the V10 vs the G10. THX mode...plus the 96hz feature works properly only on the V10 as far as i know. or maybe they don't have that feature on the G10. i know one of the other models that had it had FLICKER when turned on. its good for those 24p movies.

i liked the further control and 96hz...its worth it to me.

Huh?? Good Point! Man, I totally forgot about all that crap, the THX, 96hz and so forth... Im still pretty fresh on the hz stuff

. Is the 96hz the new thing or what? I thought the Plasmas(not all of them) have 600hz? Isnt 600hz better than 96hz? Sorry for the question, havent done alot or research.

sandman6662 · 11-24-2009, 01:08 PM

I have the 50" G-10 awesome TV, But I wish I would of gone bigger at least to 54" or 58" , so really the bigger the better, as for the other things, I hear good on the V-10 But, it's a chunk of change , and right now Sears has the
54" S-1 on sale for I recall $990.. that a great price..

MrFattBill · 11-24-2009, 01:51 PM

I would buy the V series even giving up the size difference but I watch a LOT of movies so the 96hz would be utilized. I currently sit about 13ft away from a 50" screen and have no issues. Do I wish the TV was bigger, of course, who doesn't wish their TV was bigger but the jump in price to get to a larger V series was way to much IMO.

Bill

iGlide · 11-27-2009, 03:00 PM

check out my gallery. i have a pic of the 65s1 in my room. IT was taken 14 feet back from the screen sitting in the back row. the front seats are 11 feet back. just to give you an idea of what you would be looking at size wise.

JAS · 11-28-2009, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkicevic

check out my gallery. i have a pic of the 65s1 in my room. IT was taken 14 feet back from the screen sitting in the back row. the front seats are 11 feet back. just to give you an idea of what you would be looking at size wise.

Very, Very, Nice Cevic!! Very neat and spacious!!

The panny looks SWEEEEET!!! Need to c it in ACTION though!!!!!!!

b00st · 11-30-2009, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAS

Huh?? Good Point! Man, I totally forgot about all that crap, the THX, 96hz and so forth... Im still pretty fresh on the hz stuff

. Is the 96hz the new thing or what? I thought the Plasmas(not all of them) have 600hz? Isnt 600hz better than 96hz? Sorry for the question, havent done alot or research.

600 Hz is the subfield drive which is different than the 96hz mode for watching 24p material.

Toptube · 11-30-2009, 08:20 AM

Yes the V10 is nice. but 65 inches is a lot bigger than 58 inches. A panasonic in general is already a great tv. I'd get the big one and not think twice about it with the size of your room there.

My brother recently bought a Kuro 5020 (50 inch tv) and wishes he'd gotten a 58 inch panasonic instead. Image quality is very important, but there's a point at which size is arguably more important. that 65 is going to look great in LARGE way.

lojack1976 · 11-30-2009, 10:14 AM

I myself wanted a larger set...58"-60" was what I was going for, but for the money I could afford to spend I would not have gotten the quality that I wanted. I compromised by going with the KRP-500M because picture quality was just too important to me. Yeah, I could have gotten a 58" Samsung or Panasonic for not much more, but the main reason I was upgrading was to get a better picture than what I already had.

I considered a 58" S1, but the blacks and the picture in general just didn't do it for me. I waited for the V10 to come out and it turned out to be more to my liking, but the price on the 58" was just too far out of reach, and at the time I could have easily found a KRP-600M for the same price so it didn't even make sense being that the V10 still isn't quite as good as a 9th Gen Pioneer. Size is important, but ask yourself if you want a gigantic mediocre picture or a large excellent picture. You're talking about an investment for the long haul.

My advice is to find a dealer who still has the KRP-600M in stock...HERE's one for example and buy an extended warranty for it since a lot of these online sellers are not Pioneer authorized dealers, or you can order a 6020FD HERE from Best Buy which happens to be an authorized dealer. Both of these 60" options are $3500, and both are leagues ahead of the S1. They also best the V10 pretty handily though the V10 is the closest I've seen to Pioneer quality. If you absolutely want a 65" TV then you should hold out a little longer for the 65" V10.

11-20-2009, 06:20 PM	#1
JAS Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:San Anto, Tx Blu-ray collection:265	65"s1 or 58"v10!!! Alright, I cant decide between the TC-P65S1 Panny or the TC-P58V10. Im going for quality(BLU RAY AND GAMING) and SIZE!! The S1 is on sale for $2,599.99 and the V10 is $2,699.98 on BB Online. I like the S1 cause of the size and the V10 cause of the PQ. Does the S1 have the same PQ as the V10? What is the difference between the two? I think the smallest Ill go is 58". I have a 65" right now so thats what Im used to, but I dont think 7 inches is all that much of a difference. So please, any and all opinions welcome. THANKS TO ALL!!

11-20-2009, 08:08 PM	#4
HiDefRev Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:State of Relativity Blu-ray collection:35	Panny plasma Go with the V10. It has a better panel, as well as 96 Hz capability.

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11-20-2009, 07:23 PM	#2
qwknuf6 Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 4K collection:119 Blu-ray collection:608 Blu-ray reviews:7	How far away from the screen will you be ? I would go for size unless you sit 5-6 feet away , I would guess 65" would be 30 to 35 % larger screen area than a 58" , think about it .

11-20-2009, 08:41 PM	#5
Grand Bob Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Seattle Area Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray reviews:1	Why not get the 65" V10? Have the best of both size and quality.

11-20-2009, 09:17 PM	#8
JAS Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:San Anto, Tx Blu-ray collection:265	[QUOTE=kpkelley;2563436]the v10 is a significantly better tv, but I'd be hard pressed to recommend a tv under 60" for how far you are from your sitting area. If you can swing a larger v10 I would highly suggest that.[/QUOTEJ Just measured!! When I mount the Panny, It will actually be 14ft away. DAMMN!! I didnt think it would be that far!! Sooo u think a 58" is out of the question?

11-20-2009, 09:19 PM	#9
b00st Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:73 Blu-ray collection:59	V10 over S1. its not about quantity...its about quality.

11-20-2009, 09:21 PM	#10
b00st Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:73 Blu-ray collection:59	i sit 12 to 14 feet away and its not an issue. i just wish i did the 58" instead of the 54". money wasn't the object. they said my wall would be all TV...so aesthetically i went smaller. now i wish i bought the 58"

11-22-2009, 07:46 AM	#11
SpauldingSmails Member Member since:Nov 2009	what about a 58s vs a 54g? i cant post a new thread, sorry to hijack...same basic question difference price point... gl to op with their ginormous tv purchase

11-23-2009, 07:48 PM	#12
b00st Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:73 Blu-ray collection:59	more config on the V10 vs the G10. THX mode...plus the 96hz feature works properly only on the V10 as far as i know. or maybe they don't have that feature on the G10. i know one of the other models that had it had FLICKER when turned on. its good for those 24p movies. i liked the further control and 96hz...its worth it to me.

11-24-2009, 01:08 PM	#14
sandman6662 Expert Member Member since:Feb 2008 Home Theater Gallery:35 Trading Score:24	I have the 50" G-10 awesome TV, But I wish I would of gone bigger at least to 54" or 58" , so really the bigger the better, as for the other things, I hear good on the V-10 But, it's a chunk of change , and right now Sears has the 54" S-1 on sale for I recall $990.. that a great price..

11-24-2009, 01:51 PM	#15
MrFattBill Blu-ray Ninja Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:jO-hio Home Theater Gallery:206 Blu-ray collection:578 Trading Score:5	I would buy the V series even giving up the size difference but I watch a LOT of movies so the 96hz would be utilized. I currently sit about 13ft away from a 50" screen and have no issues. Do I wish the TV was bigger, of course, who doesn't wish their TV was bigger but the jump in price to get to a larger V series was way to much IMO. Bill

11-27-2009, 03:00 PM	#16
iGlide Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Biloxi Ms Home Theater Gallery:10 iTunes collection:406	check out my gallery. i have a pic of the 65s1 in my room. IT was taken 14 feet back from the screen sitting in the back row. the front seats are 11 feet back. just to give you an idea of what you would be looking at size wise.

11-30-2009, 08:20 AM	#19
Toptube Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:52	Yes the V10 is nice. but 65 inches is a lot bigger than 58 inches. A panasonic in general is already a great tv. I'd get the big one and not think twice about it with the size of your room there. My brother recently bought a Kuro 5020 (50 inch tv) and wishes he'd gotten a 58 inch panasonic instead. Image quality is very important, but there's a point at which size is arguably more important. that 65 is going to look great in LARGE way.

11-30-2009, 10:14 AM	#20
lojack1976 Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2008 Location:7 Cities, VA Home Theater Gallery:62 Blu-ray collection:203	I myself wanted a larger set...58"-60" was what I was going for, but for the money I could afford to spend I would not have gotten the quality that I wanted. I compromised by going with the KRP-500M because picture quality was just too important to me. Yeah, I could have gotten a 58" Samsung or Panasonic for not much more, but the main reason I was upgrading was to get a better picture than what I already had. I considered a 58" S1, but the blacks and the picture in general just didn't do it for me. I waited for the V10 to come out and it turned out to be more to my liking, but the price on the 58" was just too far out of reach, and at the time I could have easily found a KRP-600M for the same price so it didn't even make sense being that the V10 still isn't quite as good as a 9th Gen Pioneer. Size is important, but ask yourself if you want a gigantic mediocre picture or a large excellent picture. You're talking about an investment for the long haul. My advice is to find a dealer who still has the KRP-600M in stock...HERE's one for example and buy an extended warranty for it since a lot of these online sellers are not Pioneer authorized dealers, or you can order a 6020FD HERE from Best Buy which happens to be an authorized dealer. Both of these 60" options are $3500, and both are leagues ahead of the S1. They also best the V10 pretty handily though the V10 is the closest I've seen to Pioneer quality. If you absolutely want a 65" TV then you should hold out a little longer for the 65" V10.

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